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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:43 AM
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In presidential campaign, life imitates TV (West Wing vs. reality)
Fascinating article. Life imitating art.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8567.html

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The clearest similarity is between Barack Obama and Jimmy Smits’ character, Matt Santos, the principled three-term Mexican American congressman from Texas. Just like Santos, Obama is tall, young and brown with a smart attractive wife and a couple of small children. Nobody gave Santos much credit as a presidential candidate because of his short congressional career, but after some early stumbles the people fell in love with his vision and judgment.

Hillary Clinton’s role is a twist on the plot. Instead of the not-so-bright Vice President “Bingo Bob” Russell, it is as if smart and aggressive first lady Abby Bartlett is running for president. Clinton, like the fictional Vice President Russell, began the race as the presumptive Democratic nominee that not many people loved but had all of the early advantages. In the series, the vice president used his position to muster the party machinery in his favor, but over time had trouble keeping up with the charming newcomer.


Then there is Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who is perfectly filling the role Alan Alda played, Arnold Vinick, the older maverick Republican senator from the West (California in the show). Due to his willingness to buck Republican Party orthodoxy from time to time, Sen. McCain, like Alda’s Vinick has trouble with the right wingers who are accustomed to having much more influence with the GOP nominee.

The only role left open in our real life remake is that of Jed Bartlett, the fictional president on the television show with the Wisdom of Job to head off a crisis. In Season Six of the West Wing, the contest for the Democratic nomination is so close that it goes to the convention. The Democrats are faced with the prospect of a split convention and mayhem. Sound familiar? The only person in the party who has the standing to bring everyone together around one candidate is the sitting president, played by Martin Sheen.

In normal times, Bill Clinton would fill this role without competition, but these are not normal times. Instead of the vice president, it is Abby Bartlett – err – Hillary Clinton, the president’s wife who is running and Bill Clinton has thrown himself into her campaign as if it was his own, willing to risk his post-presidency halo to see her elected.

Our real life version may require a few people to fill Jed Bartlett’s shoes. Let’s start with Al Gore. As the should-have-been president of the United States from 2000, Great Protector of Mother Earth and recent Nobel Prize winner, he has the stature to rally a lot of Democrats to his choice. However, his influence on the candidates may be one-sided. Obama would surely have to listen to Gore if Clinton were to be chosen, but it is not so clear that the Clintons would defer to the former vice president if he were to choose Obama in the end.

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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:51 AM
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1. But Abby Bartlett Wasn't
insanely ambitious. Poor Hillary -- I mean it, really. This is not the deal she and Bill made, all those years ago. She's turning into a tragic figure.

The big question now is whether she'll bring the Democratic Party down onto her bonfire of the vanities.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:58 AM
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2. Hillary's Been a Tragic Figure All Along
But it used to be private. Now her tragedy is on public display, and growing daily into a massive classic drama of Hubris and Nemesis. It will make great opera, I'm sure.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:11 AM
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6. I see her in more Shakespearean terms--a Macbeth to BigDog's Prince Hal
I won't call Bill Clinton a Lady Macbeth type, however. I don't want to set up any "Out, out, damn'd spot" jokes.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:35 AM
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10. It's More Like Oliver Twist
And Hillary is Nancy--the classic abused woman.

Musical: Oliver
Song: As Long as He Needs Me
NANCY

As long as he needs me...
Oh, yes, he does need me...
In spite of what you see...
...I'm sure that he needs me.

Who else would love him still
When they've been used so ill?
He knows I always will...
As long as he needs me.

I miss him so much when he is gone,
But when he's near me
I don't let on...

...The way I feel inside.
The love, I have to hide...
The hell! I've gone my pride
As long as he needs me.

He doesn't say the things he should.
He acts the way he thinks he should.
But all the same,
I'll play
This game
His way.

As long as he needs me...
I know where I must be.
I'll cling on steadfastly...
As long as he needs me.

As long as life is long...
I'll love him right or wrong,
And somehow, I'll be strong...
As long as he needs me.

If you are lonely
Then you will know...

When someone needs you,
You love them so.

I won't betray his trust...
Though people say I must.

I've got to stay true, just
As long as he needs me.


And so Bill (odd coincidence there) having set Hillary up to have delusions of a political future, is slowly squeezing the life out of those illusions.


As I said, tragic.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:01 AM
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3. I miss West Wing.
That was a good show. The whole Vinick-Santos race at the end was particularly good.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:13 AM
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8. I have all seven seasons on DVD and watch the habitually.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:03 AM
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4. Good comparison! I miss that show!!!! I used to watch it faithfully every
Wed. night. Think to the last few episodes of that show. Remember the one campaign manager left his briefcase behind in the op;oonents office, but Vinivk wouldn't let his guys use the stuff they found? Hmmmm...somehow I'm not convinced that kind of fairness would ever happen in the real world!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:45 AM
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14.  I cried the first few episodes... knowing what America lost over the last 7 years
or at least, the recent past has made what was slipping away more obvious.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:09 AM
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5. I was for Vinick
I missed seeing Alan Alda on TV and I thought Arnold Vinick was a much more interesting character. Matt Santos was a little too Dudley Doo-right for me.

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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:17 AM
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9. The West Wing
I have thought of the parelles myself.Obama Is a bit of a real life Santos.However I call Vinck a true maverick unlike Mccain.He was the most likable Republican on the show.He was a pro Choice
Pro Environment non racist Republican.A shame we didn't get to see the Santos Administration on TV.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:11 AM
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7. Freakish I was actually thinking about posting on the comparsion last night but I had no OPs left
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:36 AM
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11. Hoynes for President
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:41 AM
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12. Hoynes = Al Gore?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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13. Lawrence O'Donnel wrote a speech for Jimmy Smits' character for WW that he said
he wanted Obama to use, LOL.. said it would be perfect for Obama. I wish I could find it !
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:28 PM
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16. Hopefully not one of his red faced Mormon bashing bigoted screeds
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:57 PM
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15. afternoon kick
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