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Wed Feb-20-08 11:39 AM
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Does Obama have only ONE speech? |
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We were watching BHO's speech last night and my wife insisted it was a rerun of the Madison speech. I told her, no, I think he was in Texas last night.
Bottom line, if he's going to be on national TV every time, geez, doesn't he have more than one speech? This one's getting a little old, and his delivery is getting a little stale on it.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:39 AM
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It's called a "stump speech."
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:42 AM
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5. You know better than that, Pitt! |
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You use a stump speech ON THE STUMP. Not the same speech every time on national TV.
Duh.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:44 AM
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12. Barack IS on the stump. |
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Every stop he makes happens to be on national TV.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:47 AM
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20. Then maybe his writers need to get busy. |
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Put down the lattes and write some new material for the national TV audience.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:49 AM
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24. You know, the 'latte' shit is getting really tired. And desperate. |
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Maybe you need some new writers. :shrug:
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:53 AM
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:59 AM
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31. The "desperate" charge is usually made when the line gets too close to the truth. |
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And go change your Birkenstocks.
:rofl:
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:02 PM
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34. And the whining about the candidate's speech is usually done when your candidate is losing. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:16 PM
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:48 AM
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Forgot the smilie. ---> :)
He's not in charge of which speeches wind up on TV, though. Crafting anew speech for every stop on a day-to-day campaign is a practical impossibility. It's gonna be the same spech for several days at a time.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:45 AM
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16. Actually, the first large part of the speech was urging the folks to vote early. |
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I watched Obama for twice as long as Hillary was on, listing for his discussion of issues and hearing just more empty rehotoric, then I couldn't take anymore.
If he talked about issues, it was after that, not one second before.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:40 AM
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2. Yes... a "Victory" speech... |
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....I've heard he also has something called a "Concession Speech".....
... but we haven't had much of an opportunity to hear that one.
;-)
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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6. I've heard his concession speech starts with ... |
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I would like to congratulate Hillary ....
Yes, it was cheap, and I'm not proud - but it was funny.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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9. I have no problem with him repeating the victory speech over and over again! |
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Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM by BattyDem
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edited: typo :blush:
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:41 AM
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All different from the others.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:41 AM
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4. Why change what works? Non-political folks haven't heard it yet. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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7. Exactly, it's only repetitious for those who drink the Koolaid. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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8. no, he doesn't. It's Deval Patricks' speech. |
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But he certainly does have a comfort zone with using Deval's words and phrases over and over and over and over again.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:44 AM
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13. Yesterday's newscycle |
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This has already been debunked. Move on.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:45 AM
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17. Time to move on pup, that line of attack failed miserably last evening. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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10. All the candidates have their main stump speech |
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They usually modify it a bit for the local audience, depending on where they are speaking. Hillary also has a standard speech. It's normal.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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11. I was in Madison for that speech. It wasnt the same one |
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In Madison he spoke for 25 minutes. In Houston, he spoke for 45.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:44 AM
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14. That's pretty standard stuff. Every candidate does that. The diff. |
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is THIS TIME lots of them get televised. I've heard LOTS of reporters talk about how dull and boring the job of covering a candidate is, because no matter where you go, or how many stops you make, you hear the SAME SPEECH!
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:44 AM
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15. Even better, he only has one message |
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As opposed to "Ready to Lead on Day 1," Time to pick a President," "Solutions for America," etc., etc.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:48 AM
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23. He talked issues and your still bitching? |
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Did you actually listen to his whole speech, he talked about issues, you guys need to give it up already! Hill is done deal with it.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:55 AM
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I'm complimenting Obama (the avatar is your first hint).
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:27 PM
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:47 AM
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18. you gotta think of all the folks who haven't heard it yet. It's smart. |
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maddening to the political junkies in the opposition, but effective in defining the candidate and making the definition stick.
Bill Clinton used to shift his speeches and carry over the important themes. I liked that a bit better -- kinda of like a Grateful Dead show.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:47 AM
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19. Variations on a theme. If you watch them more closely you would see the differences. but similar |
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:48 AM
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21. They all do it and it's only an issue to political junkies like us ... |
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Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 11:50 AM by BattyDem
most people don't watch every televised speech. By the time the general election rolls around, I can usually recite the Dem candidate's stump speech, LOL!
edited: typo ... again! :blush: (Sorry, my brain is a little fuzzy today.)
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:49 AM
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25. Actually, he mixes up his speeches more than any other candidate. Seriously. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:50 AM
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26. Obama does need to write some new material. The 'kindergarten papers' joke is pretty old news. |
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The 'wheels coming off the straight talk express' was good, though. He needs more like that.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:51 AM
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27. HORRIBLE RULE of modern campaigns: USE ONLY 1 "SCRUBBED" SPEACH or else |
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-- you make 1 mistake and your opponent calls you DUMB, OR UNPATRIOTIC FOR THE NEXT MONTH.
It is a ridiculous situation.
Hillary does the same.
Bill Clinton is the only national POL that I have heard who varies his message significantly to match the time and the audience.
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Wed Feb-20-08 11:54 AM
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29. Hey now those empty speeches cost a pretty penny... |
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:00 PM
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32. I heard he can afford it. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:02 PM
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33. Actually he varies it. I enjoy watching his speeches, because |
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although he has a "greatest hits" in his stump speech, there is always something new.
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:05 PM
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35. He has a couple.. and he actually added about 15 minutes to last nights speach.. |
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He talked about specifics, etc.
Most of the candidates have one big premise that they talk around.. the difference is Obama's "Stump" is viewed by 20,000 at a time now, and it's always on National TV. He tries to mix things up, but he's talking to groups that have never seen him speak before (not DU addicts that watch every snippet they can find).
He uses the same premises & lines each time, but changes up the speach layout, and adds or subtracts a few things to hit his audicance.
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:19 PM
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37. Speeches are like Suits |
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Sometimes you don't have time to drop it off at the cleaners to get it back in time for the important event, so you're stuck with the stains and BO, especially if it's your favorite one. ;)
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:23 PM
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38. Guess what? He answers questions too! |
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I witnessed it first-hand yesterday. He picked people out of the audience at random (nothing pre-selected) and spent 10-15 minutes answering each question in detail. No notes, no teleprompter!
Who'd a thunk he actually has a brain and can think on his feet! :wow:
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:24 PM
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39. Hope, change, blah blah blah |
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Later, rinse, repeat
He's waiting on new material from Deval
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:29 PM
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42. It's his Joe DiMaggio speech |
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Look, most people are not political junkies like we are and many are paying attention to him now for the first time, so why not keep repeating it until he's sure that most people have heard it?
Way back when, Joe DiMaggio was asked by a writer why he busted his butt and was so hard on himself when he had a bad day even when the game meant nothing (the Yankees had clinched the pennant) and he said he did it because there might be someone in the stands who never saw him play and he was not going to permit anyone to remember him as someone who didn't give it his best every time out.
It's a great speech.
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