Obama's zero votes in some NYC districts: Mayor Bloomberg Claims Vote "Fraud"

[DeepModem Mom]

NY Post: MIKE BLOOMBERG CLAIMS VOTE 'FRAUD’
David Seifman

February 19, 2008 -- Mayor Bloomberg charged yesterday that "fraud" was behind the unofficial results in the New York Democratic presidential primary that produced zero votes for Barack Obama in some districts.

"If you want to call it significant undercounting, I guess that's a euphemism for fraud," said the mayor.

Unofficial tallies on election night gave Obama no votes in 78 out of more than 6,000 election districts.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02192008/news/regionalnews/mike_bloomberg_claims_vote_fraud__98367.htm

[BeyondGeography]

1. Bloomie for Veep?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. You know he praised O's plan on the economy ?

[Arkana]

38. No.

[my2sense]

2. Well, why am I not surprised n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. who was being fraudulent?

[formernaderite]

9. obviously some very stupid

hillary supporter in the various precincts. I'm sure they'll paint it as a big "oops" we errored. Just one big coincidence.

[juajen]

16. Or, a smart Rove operative?

[formernaderite]

28. yeah...they hang out in really blue city precincts

for sure

[Johnny__Motown]

4. I thought it was the Clintons who DON'T want to disenfranchise voters, or is that only MI and FL?

[KittyWampus]

5. Better to call it ELECTION Fraud. In Rangel's district (I believe)

[juajen]

14. Link, please. I didn;t know it was in Rangel's district?

Are you saying only in his district? I'm assuming that these are mostly AA districts? If so, it was pretty dumb to leave Obama with 0 vote tallies. I do not think Rangel or Hillary are dumb. Do you? Have you thought that maybe it was done to make Hillary look complicit? WOW, it's always crooked, and it's always Hillary.

I believe some of you have a script. Are you members of SAG? This is not a reference to Obama supporters who manage to support their candidate without wild accusations thrown at the other candidates, or candidate, as it were.

[intheflow]

30. Not only Rangel's district, but where Bill Clinton has an office.

Here's the NYT article linking the missing vote to Rangel's district in Harlem: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html

Here's and article placing Bill Clinton's Harlem office in Rangel's district: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/29/nyregion/29harlem.html

And in spite of the rosy spin of the NYT article, above, not everyone has been happy about his move into the neighborhood: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/harlem-to-clinton-youre-ruining-us-408913.html

...which makes me wonder exactly how strong his base really is among black voters in Harlem. It certainly doesn't sound like an easy 100% win for HRC.


*DISCLAIMER: I'm not accusing HRC or BC of doing anything illegal. But politics attracts some ruthless people, so it's not beyond me to imagine staff or volunteers being involved. I personally don't think either Clinton would ever believe they could get away with 100% of the vote in a Harlem district. They're both way too competent for that.

[bklyncowgirl]

31. Is that dead fish I smell? What sort of machines do they use in NYC? nt

[AtomicKitten]

6. And now what?

[RiverStone]

10. My question as well??!!

[K Gardner]

13. Link to report from NYTimes on the recount effort here..

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[AtomicKitten]

19. thanks for the link

At this point, the best we can expect is that Barack be awarded the delegates he was deprived of in New York. This episode combined with the swift-boating coming from ClintonCo is fodder for bitter division in the party.

[K Gardner]

20. Yes, it certainly is. It is truly amazing that even with her advantage

in SDs, even with the attacks, the questionable voting abnormalities, the swiftboating and everything else, he has pulled ahead of her fairly and squarely !

That happens with honesty and integrity !

[juajen]

23. I appreciate that link.

I was interested in reading the article. It appears that some were obviously in Rangel's district, others, not so clear. For instance:

"City election officials said they were convinced that there was nothing sinister to account for the inaccurate initial counts, and The Times’s review found a handful of election districts in the city where Mrs. Clinton received zero votes in the initial results."

The article didn't elucidate on Hillary's 0 districts. If they were also in Rangel's district, it looks as if it was a malfunctioning machine. I'm looking for another cause for this, not because I am ignorant of shenanigans within and without the party, but because I do not believe anyone would stupidly give 0 results to either Clinton or Obama.

[Cha]

34. Incredible..and I've known about this

but, it's still sinking in. Does Not speak well for hilary's state and I hope we get resolution on this very important travesty!

[nomorewhopper]

7. Wow, Bloomberg didn't mince words did he

[K Gardner]

8. At least it wasn't one of Obama's staff making the call.

[K Gardner]

11. "In some districts being recounted, Obama close to taking lead"..

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162008/news/regionalnews/obama_robbed_in_ny_97932.htm

[madrchsod]

12. silly me --i thought that only happened in chicago!

[Cha]

35. Did you forget Florida

and Ohio?

[Renew Deal]

15. Bloomberg is correct.

The same people run the elections EVERY YEAR! There's never more than 1 or 2 newbs in any polling place. It's the same senior crowd. They know how to fill out the forms. There is some stink here.

[Cha]

36. That's the way it is in my

district upstate. And, yet, I read Obama got over 600, 000 votes so somebody was counting his votes somewhere. Not sure about mine now since I know the older ladies doing the polling place in my town are hilaryites. They wouldn't dare.

It's so fishy..why would the votes get scrubbed down to a big fat 0?

[NashVegas]

17. So Ask for a Recount

Or shush.

[K Gardner]

18. They're already doing one.

[Umbram]

24. Read the posted article

Or Shush.

[NashVegas]

27. I Did

And must have left my glasses at home, because I'm missing the part where Bloomberg demands a recount.

[K Gardner]

29. He didn't. It was already being done. I posted the link to the NY Times article.

[electropop]

22. Sounds more like election fraud than voter fraud.

But it appears the wording of the subject line is from the OP, not the Mayor.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Nothing to see here - no - just a coincidence that this happened

near Bill's office? Sure. Just like the coincidence that Hillary mystereously came up with 31,000 unpolled voters who also lied to exit pollers in NH, a state where it was "do or die"

There are only so many coicidences that can pile up before someone finally says that something stinks to high heaven.

[juajen]

26. Come on! If they were that powerful, she would have won a few

more states, donchathink?

To the point: Why hasn't Bloomberg done something if he thinks elections are crooked in his city. Surely this isn't the first time that someone thought they were robbed?

Does anyone know when the recount will be finished. I really want to see the results.

[anigbrowl]

32. Usually recounts take a week or two.

I don't think it will make a significant difference to the outcome, though it's possible Obama might pick up a delegate or two.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Well, I don't think they have universal access - I don't even think

Bush did (ran up Texas, rigged Ohio (because Blackwell there), and rigged FL, thanks to Jeb.

I don't think that I would bet my life that Bill and or Hillary would never affect races in NY and nearby. And maybe Arkansas. No proof. Just gut feeling of mistrust.

Bloomberg is doing something. He's having it investigated. Last I heard, sometime last week, it would take at least two weeks.

[RestoreGore]

33. Where's his proof?

Didn't read he had any in this piece.