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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:13 PM
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The man "behind the curtain" is Karl Rove

"Bamboozling the American electorate again

Bush-Cheney strategy involves G.O.P. crossover voting to take out Hillary, marketing newcomer Obama, an "independent" ticket, and maybe even martial law...
Updated February 18, 2008

Evidence of a covert campaign to undermine the presidential primaries is rife, so it's curious that the Democractic Party and even some within the G.O.P. have ignored the actual elephant in the room this year. That would be Karl Rove. After rigging two previous presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe that he's gone off to sit in a corner and write op-eds.Not so...

According to an article in Time Magazine, Republican party activists have been organized by the G.O.P. to throw their weight behind Barack Obama, the democratic rival of frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Early in Obama's campaign, top Republican fundraisers flushed his coffers with cash, something the deep pockets hadn't done for any candidate in their own party. With receipts topping $100 million in 2007, the first-term Illinois senator broke the record for contributions. It was a remarkable feat, considering that most Americans had not even heard of him before 2005.

The Time magazine article goes on to explain that rank and file Republicans in red states have switched their party registrations, enabling them to vote in Democratic primaries. Some states, like Virginia and Texas, have open primaries, allowing citizens to vote for any candidate regardless of party affiliation. In Nebraska, the mayor of Omaha publicly rallied Republicans to caucus for Obama on February 9th. Called crossover voting, the tactic is playing a crucial role in the Rove push to deprive Clinton of the Democratic nomination. Even with the help of his more familiar hodge-podge of dirty tricks - swiftboating, waitlisting, bogus polling data, paperless electronic voting equipment, Norman Hsu, etc. - Rove would be hard pressed to defeat Clinton in November, since she's popular nationwide and has promised an immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq. If the contest isn't close, the vote-rigging won't matter..."

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http://thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html


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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:14 PM
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1. consider the source, what a freaking joke this is

http://www.thecityedition.com/


nice try, please come again
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:17 PM
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2. oh bullshit, even if the highly overrated Rove can mobilize some gopers their
is no way, none at all that he could make the kind of turnout that has happened---happen.

Karl Rove is a cheap ass punk that will never live up to the truly heartless bastard that was Lee Atwater.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:18 PM
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3. Read the Time Magazine article.
Seems to me that the article linked in the OP is lying about what was written in Time.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:21 PM
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4. I found your picture on the web...
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:21 PM
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5. I don't see anything in the Time article that could have been interpreted the way your source
article states. Pure fiction.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:21 PM
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6. any one that can pry a nickel out of the GOP has my vote
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 01:21 PM by MissWaverly
what a bunch of cheap skates, they are all for protecting the unborn which costs them nothing or promoting the flag (when was the
last time the Star Spangled Banner needed health care or a good doctor at the VA) or their favorite "No Child Left Behind" which
is tall on talk and short on positive help for poor kids other than testing them to death.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:22 PM
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7. BS, I have seen the Obama movement on the ground. they are not rw'ers
they are the young, the idealistic, the hopefull. people who want to change the country by doing something proactive and not just sitting on the sidelines.

Rove only wished he could do this. dont buy the lies and then think that you have to vote for Hillary. these are more underhanded tactics that are only rovian in nature
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:23 PM
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8. Mike Fahey, mayor of Omaha? He's a good Democrat. No Rovian tricks there, sorry.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:23 PM
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9. 'hard-pressed to defeat Clinton...because she's popular nationwide'
that's just not true.

And what the Time article actualy says is that Obama is getting support from more liberally-inclined Republicans who are generally disgusted with the state of their party.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:23 PM
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10. Baloney - why are so many Dems completely ignorant of the fact that there WAS a national
network organized and in place already waiting for the word from the man who organized it in 2003-4?

Obama tapped into that network way earlier than the public endorsement, folks.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:23 PM
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11. Alerted.
The OP links an article that is lying, pure and simple.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:27 PM
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12. I have been saying this for 2 years ....this is not BS thank god for Superdelegates
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:36 PM
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13. They're going to abandon her in droves, sorry to say. They'll do what's best for the party, not the
Clintons.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:46 PM
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15. Rep. Clyburn (D-SC) says automatic delegate support should not be based on election results
some of his fellow Democratic Party superdelegates have been too quick to endorse presidential candidates and said he disagrees with those who base their support on election and caucus results…Clyburn said superdelegates are not in place simply to mirror the popular vote. 'I don't think people are really thinking through what they're saying,' he said.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:50 PM
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16. say it with me...
SUPERDELEGATE...dont let yourself be brainwashed by this automatic delegate crap. It's like fox calling suicide bombers, homicide bombers.

Call it what you will but it is what it is.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:36 PM
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14. Ah, that's their excuse for 3 to 1 ratio of primary voters
Dem vs. Repug. Jeez, the lies.
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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:55 PM
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17. Holy crap!
That city edition article is pure delusion! The Time article it cites says nothing like that!!!

:wtf:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:01 PM
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18. If Rove could do all that, he wouldn't care who the Dem nominee was.
Some people have been so traumatized by Rove they see him under every rock.
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