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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:36 PM
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The Disaster of Hillary Clinton's Campaign: A Few Thoughts
I have been paying attention to the campaign as it goes along--nothing extreme, not following every speech or exit poll result--listening to enough to get the pattern of things, and to hear some of the same things over and over. Others have expressed similar opinions about things noticed, but I also wanted to make a point of a few things.

Most importantly, this whole campaign season indicates how the country changed completely, with no help from "superior" paid commercial "framing" consultants, and how the corporate-lobbyist-connected candidates--ALL of the "top" ones--were so cut off for so many years, that they were oblivious, and had to completely rewrite their speeches, change their "phrasing," and address people as adults, and not "tricked consumers" they were selling products to. The "D"LC candidate, Hillary Clinton (and yes, John Edwards is "D"LC, too, which Edwards supporters never admitted), went from arrogant and throwing weight around, giving orders and laughing at fellow debaters, an actual planned campaign strategy of appearing to be the "inevitable candidate," to trying desperately to grab onto any life-raft to fit in. How few months ago it seems, that the "D"LC had a stranglehold on the real Democratic Party, threatening to cut off funds and all other support for any Democrats who did not bow down to Rahm Emanuel, Schumer, etc., and the corporate lobbyists they approved. It was not long ago that Hillary Clinton and Tom Vilsack were giving snide, angry speeches vowing the "D"LC would "never" give up control of the Democratic Party, and that progressives and anti-corporate types could just go to hell. Now, they pretend they were designing economic plans for middle class unemployed workers, all along. If anything at all is clear, it is that we are witnessing the ignominious end of the "D"LC and its arrogance.

Bill Clinton calimed that "the era of big Government is over," and shoved it down the throats of those who need big Government to help them, against the corporate criminal oppressor; Clinton cut millions of poor women off of welfare, with Republicans, and gave them nowhere to go and no help. Reagan, Clinton, both Bushs, etc., ushered in the era of the "Global Gilded Age" of total corporate control of Government, then launched covert slander campaigns, just like a Republican, against anyone who tries to get the corporations out of the process again. The entire Democratic Party was dismantled as a National organization, and remade as the " 'D'LC Bill Clinton Fan Club," losing majority support, and turning to corporations (and their demands) for all fundraising. It took Howard Dean to rebuild it as a Party--which might also explain why Hillary Clinton's campaign is so bizarrely mismanaged on even the most basic levels of competency: same people.

This then leads to "Hillary Clinton's" (or the male "D"LC's, anyway) campaign this year. I have heard several speeches from Hillary Clinton on C-SPAN, and if anything sounds like the nightmare-world of fake, mask-wearing corporate-consultant " 'frame'-speak," this is it. I can't even count the number of times that she has been talking about "reaching across the aisle to Republicans," or "giving tax relief to our hard-working businesses," or "people who use the Emergency Room for non-emergencies, which we all pay for," and thought--God damn it, quit talking like that! Say something people care about; talk like a woman, and not a corporate male! I have watched her audiences, as big as Obama's, WANTING to cheer, wanting a reference to the historical rise of women, the importance of this moment, and it never comes. She refers to abortion rights only to do this shitty thing of demanding that there be FEWER of them, that they be "rare." She is still on this incoherent line about buying health care like the Congressional plan--I don't even know what the fuck she is talking about, except that it denies us Medicare-type coverage, so it is another fake ploy. "Tax cuts," "tax relief," all the Republican lines, but nothing that would help people in foreclosed homes, or God forbid, punish the predators who caused this disaster. Devastatingly, Obama has tied her to NAFTA, outsourcing, and the recession--this is a surefire criticism, as these things all badly hurt us, and the Bill Clinton Admin., with its "dot.com" "wal-Mart" friends, told us all to go to hell. Now it comes back to haunt her, and she cannot answer it.

Her advisers have done some kind of polling or something, and come up with the totally incomprehensible result that people "want" an explanation of her recent loan of her own money to her campaign. I have heard this section of her speech several times, and it is always unreal. She starts off by saying that "you probably heard that I recently loaned my campaign" ($5 million, or whatever it was)--when I highly doubt most people even know what she is talking about, as they have problems of their own. Then she goes on this bizarre and annoying thing about how, then, supposedly some "young mother then donated what little she had" to the campaign, or something--it is so fake, so "focus group-tested," so cut off, so unnecessary a part of a speech--it brings all momentum to a screeching halt, as the audience wonders what the hell she is talking about, that you realize clearly how fatal was the effect of the male "D"LC slogan-spin machine. They really are going to kill this for her, when she might have won, if she had just sounded like a human being and not a manipulator.

Interestingly, Obama is as corporate as Hillary Clinton is: supporting "free" trade agreements, praising Reagan and Republicans, supporting all these new classes of work visas, to bring high-skilled, low-wage workers to the U.S. and kill unions, and even supporting "merit pay" for teachers. Obama has made many snide remarks about Clinton's support from women, that it is based on "emotion," throwing in the code-attack that they are "especially OLDER women,"and one time I heard Obama even end it with, "and there's nothing wrong with that." Why would you even say that? Obama's South Carolina campaign chair gave the media a five-page hit piece on supposedly "racist" wording from the Clintons, tells baby-boomers to "get over themselves," tells Hillary Clinton snidely that she is "likeable enough" and does not even look at her, tells the media the Republicans have a "dump truck" worth of evidence they could use against the Clintons, yet is treated, by a totally uncritical male media, as the candidate who will "bring us all together." After kicking the women in the teeth and pushing them out of the way?

Every staff change in Clinton's campaign is painted by the media as a "panic" or "shake-up," increasing the disaster sense; any problems encountered by Obama are "seasoning" the candidate. Obama is treated as a "brilliant orator" and "totally ethical, unlike the Clintons," and then when it is discovered that not only did Obama not write these things, but they were stolen from other speeches, anyone who mentions it is attacked by the media and treated as a race-baiter. Obama was recently called "the leader of a new movement" by some dick on the media, although none of them can explain what it exactly is. When anyone refers to what they actually call "Obama-mania," (really objective journalists here) as fans cheering as at a rock concert, and not serious, it is treated as someone breaking up the male media's fun party. Obama's supporters are labelled "young," "educated," "Green/environmental," and even, they gush, "white males"! Hillary Clinton's supporters are attacked with the code words "older women" and "downscale"--actual expressions used.

Hillary Clinton sounds as if she is being restrained by her male consultants from ever just coming right out and saying anything that women know or experience; as if everything is being scripted by males, for males, and so males will not ever, ever be offended. Barack Obama, meanwhile, speaks freely and is cheered for everything. Obama has accomplished exactly nothing in the Senate, and that is never referred to. Clinton meanwhile, is blamed even for Bill Clinton's Presidential failings. Clinton wants to get along with Republicans because she is so corporate and "D"LC; Obama wants to get along with Republicans, and that is so inspiring and will "unite" us all. Blah blah blah, so sayeth the male media.

If there are three main reasons why Hillary Clinton's campaign is such a shocking disaster, it might be that:

1) Barack Obama is allowed to be a black male, but Hillary Clinton is not allowed to be a woman, and;
2) This is the end of the rich corporate strong-arm tactics of the "D"LC, etc., as they have now gotten themselves completely cut off from people, and;
3) The male media attacked the woman and cheered the male from the start, no matter what, and as usual dressed up their bigotry against women, as a support for something--anything--else.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:38 PM
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1. I guess you see what you want to see.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:41 PM
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2. ALLOWED TO BE A BLACK MALE... OMG DON'T YOU REMEMBER SOUTH CAROLINA
he was attacked for being a black


and if it is just the media why the hell didn't Edwards do better?





Hillary lost because she thought she couldn't lose and didn't do any of the work it takes to win.

Cronies running her campaign, pissing away 140 million bucks, no forces on the ground to contest caucus states and no coherent message, she is still switching at least once a week.

She was a terrible candidate who lost this race by her own incompetence,
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:34 PM
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9. I think the point of the OP that Hillary's campaign is run by men for men
is spot on in a way.

Yesterday I was amused by Obama saying "I want to give a shout-out to..." He also said that a group was "in the house." He's clearly not being penalized for using slang expressions.

But back to my main point, for a while I've thought about the differences between books written by men and books written by women. There's a lot of overlap, but a lot of the times I've found myself reading a book and just not connecting to the characters at all. Lord of the Rings is a good example of a book that I just didn't get into. Not that every book written by a man has this shortcoming, but I've seen it often enough to notice a pattern.

But the OP's assertion that she's using male language may be why I just haven't felt a connection to her. :shrug:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:44 PM
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3. What you are implying is that the only reason she is not fairing well is because of sexism
This ignores the fact that she voted for the IWR, she voted NOT to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas, and she has run a much more negative campaign than Obama

Perhaps it is the candidate, and NOT her sex, that is my point


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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:45 PM
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4. DLC delende est.
C'est tout, en point.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:48 PM
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5. "Obama has accomplished nothing in the Senate"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:00 PM
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6. Couldn't be that MORE Dems are SICK of both Clintons and theirundermining of the party
and other Dem lawmakers, could it?

The backstabbing:

http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

The timely defense of Bush in 2004:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

The sabotage of Ohio Dem voters:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


The siding with Bush and McCain's lie against Kerry in 2006:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:21 PM
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7. I think I see what you are getting at
That Hillary relied too much upon advisers and not enough upon her own strengths, your reasons 1 and 2. I concatenate these 2 reasons together because, ultimately it comes to the same thing; Hillary relied upon people whose time had passed. Your third reason, that sexism drove a concerted media campaign denigrating her, probably has merit as well.

What you need to consider is that, to an extent these two elements are linked. Because the advice given to Hillary was probably to "talk tough" any display where she did not appear tough fed the sexist media and displays of "toughness" were considered not feminine enough.

It is possible for a woman and gain power. Margaret Thatcher (cursed be her name) overcame a far more conservative electorate and media to dominate my country for 12 years and, much as I disliked her, I have to say that she was a notable Prime Minister. She did this by being her own person, she did not try to appear less feminine for she displayed a different aspect of femininity; the strong, tough-loving matriarch. This archetype did well for Thatcher but I suspect that the US would have some difficulty with it.

Another difficulty possibly has to do with history; the US has never had a female ruler, the UK before Thatcher had several. These were monarchs rather than Prime Ministers but most were undoubtedly in charge. They were Matilda, Mary, Elizabeth I, Mary II (William and Mary), Anne, Victoria and Elizabeth II. Matilda was tough as old boots, Elizabeth I was probably the greatest ruler this country has had and Anne was far from disastrous. Both Victoria and Elizabeth II are viewed by most as having more power than they probably actually do. History tell Brits that women can be in charge.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:28 PM
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8. Interesting assessment
:)
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