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Wed Feb-20-08 01:49 PM
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Hillary Supporters: Move Through This and Fight . |
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Just like Hillary is doing.SHE has not given up.
There is a debate coming up,she is focused on Texas and Ohio where she remains ahead.You see the Obama people still worried that she will somehow "make a comeback" and "steal" this from him.
They KNOW how tough and strong she is,that is WHY they are so vicious toward her.They KNOW Texas and Ohio are hers to lose.They KNOW the Party Leaders might just recognize that Obama is a Joe Lieberman and not good for the Party and may start Endorsing/pledging their delegates to her as this goes along.
Obama has capitulated on every Progressive issue sans the one that he didn't have to vote on:Iraq War.Everything since he has equivocated on..There is NOTHING about his record that speaks of anything extraordinary much less bold leadership.Nothing.
Hillary is still fighting because she cares too much about America and where this country is headed and Obama Is.Not.Qualified.
Even his words are a second hand re run from a man that has done nothing extraordinary in Massachusetts after being elected there on this same campaign.That is WHY Mass. went to Hillary even with Ol' Kennedy and Kerry stumping hard for Obama there!
Yes,it's a hard but God Damn SO WHAT? Nothing Worth Fighting for Ever Comes Easy.Hillary knows that.She is still standing as she always has been and always will be.
She will fight for this Nomination just as hard as she will Fight for a Progressive Agenda as President of The United States of America.Be Proud of her and have the confidence SHE DOES.Move through this latest set back and FIGHT.
Personally,I couldn't do anything less at this point.I implore you to Fight.Donate to her Campaign so she CAN fight to win.Make phone calls,canvass for her!Obama's followers are fighting for him so you can ask nothing less of yourself if you believe in Hillary Clinton and want to see Her elected President.
If you care about this Country and Want Hillary to be Our Next President do whatever YOU can to make that happen.
We can do this if we do it together.Hillary needs us and I am not about to let MY Hopes and Dreams for America die just because Obama is ahead right now.I'm just not willing to lay down so easily.This is too important.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:50 PM
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1. We KNEW all this was going to happen ..and we are ready for |
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ONE week from Tuesday! (and of course the debates)
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:56 PM
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Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 01:58 PM by Johnny__Motown
ah crap, two weeks from yesterday, one from next tuesday
ok my bad I will shut up now
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:00 PM
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24. Two weeks but yeah this is exactly how we knew it would go |
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that being said she is going to have to do really well in the two on March 4th and in Penn.... at this point Obama is closing. We'll see. She needs to get close enough to give the super delegates cover to nominate her OR she could still win outright.
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:09 PM
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Hillary needs to win 65% of the remaining pledged delegates just to tie Obama. Not only is Obama rapidly expanding the delegate lead, but those super delegates which you are counting are starting to side with Obama by a significant margin - i.e. he has reduced her lead from over 100 to under 70. Obama need to win 65% of the remaining pledged delegates to win the nomination on pledged delegates alone. Hillary simply cannot win it outright.
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:30 PM
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that sounds about right I wasn't sure so I mentioned her winning it out right
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:51 PM
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2. Obama will make us all very proud when he wins the Presidency in November. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:54 PM
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8. Your arrogant comment is exactly why Obama hasn't won |
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any support from me. Congratulations.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:11 PM
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32. I'm just saying Obama will make us proud. I'm confident he will. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:46 PM
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59. Why don't you cry some more about your fake outrage? |
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There is nothing negative about what Katzen said. It's obvious you hate Obama and are using any bullshit justification to continue doing so.
Keep hate alive!
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:00 PM
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He does not make me proud of anything. I find him to be too smooth to be true, all fluff and little substance. A great salesman or preacher, not necessarily great presidential material. For some reason Jimmy Carter comes to mind.......
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:11 PM
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33. Jimmy Carter is a great man. I think Obama will be a better president |
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than Mr. Carter. Don't you agree?
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:58 PM
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45. No one knows that yet. |
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And I have to agree with others that I don't like being included in the "we" since I can think for myself.
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Wed Feb-20-08 04:53 PM
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64. Jimmy Carter is a great man, but was an ineffectual president. |
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Thanks to him we ended up with 8 years of Reagan economics.
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Wed Feb-20-08 04:30 PM
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62. Yeah, trash our greatest living president. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 04:27 PM
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61. If he does, he'll be a one-termer at best. |
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Presidentin' is HARD!
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:51 PM
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:51 PM
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4. All it takes is one credible drug story, affair, Rezko report... |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:55 PM
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9. Only there aren't any. And their won't be any |
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at least about Obama. Now Bill on the other hand, that's another story. Have fun with your wishful thinking. Looks like that's all you have.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:56 PM
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14. So your candidate's success now depends on dirt on the opponent? |
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What a sorry place to be.
Hillary can't win by generating any more supporters for herself.... only by tearing down her opposition.
You're sitting there HOPING that some "scandal" comes along to bring down Obama.
That's all you have left. And it is pathetic.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:09 PM
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29. And they've all been tried too. |
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What makes you think they'll have some magic effect in the future when they haven't worked in the past?
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:00 PM
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48. This is a weird thing to say. |
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It seems like you're almost wishing it to happen.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:52 PM
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5. Right, if we keep digging that hole, we'll eventually reach the surface. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:55 PM
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10. If you want us to come around maybe you should shut up? n/t |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:55 PM
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12. I should be seen and not heard, eh? |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:57 PM
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16. If you want Hillary supporters to come to Obama I think it might |
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be common courtesy to zip it. But it seems you only want to rub it in. If you want me to vote for McCain keep it up.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:58 PM
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Oh, I've no doubt they'll come over into the light. |
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As soon as she concedes you'll all be cultists just like the rest of us. And you'll be welcome to the party.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:23 PM
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:25 PM
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:23 PM
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53. Each vote will matter. How arrogant of you. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:33 PM
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56. Simple question: will you vote for the Democratic nominee in November? |
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:13 PM
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52. Don't go in the middle of a "Hillary Supporters" thread if you don't want to get stung. |
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I have the feeling you probably like the attention though....
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:52 PM
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6. Stop fighting ... this is a campaign n/t |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:53 PM
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7. Working your way through the stages of grief, I see, |
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Good idea. The wheels are off Hill's campaign. Oh, and Lanny Davis, HER surrogate compared Hilly to Joementum today.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:55 PM
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13. You make no points for your candidate. n/t |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:58 PM
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20. What? They're supposed to make points? |
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Isn't the fact that he's the "Messiah" enough?
SARACASM OFF The Obama supporters are excellent at the replies with "n/t"
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:09 PM
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30. Take a look at your own comments. I have. |
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And I've never seen you write anything positive about your candidate. I'll add that I've written many posts about the qualifications of my candidate- and many critical of him. Oh, and you need a new line. I realize Hilly supporters are lashing out because they know she's getting beaten so badly, but the Messiah line is a little shopworn.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:57 PM
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44. I think you'll also notice I've never come right out and said Hillary Clinton is my candidate. |
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I've primarily been trying to find out what it is about Obama that makes him so much better.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:07 PM
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27. And all the OP did was bash Obama with |
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false garbage. I'm responding to that.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:07 PM
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28. what a class act you are |
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:10 PM
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31. I suggest you look at the OP |
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Take off the blinders. It's just an ugly bash.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:14 PM
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34. It's not that bad. Some venting. Everyone has an opinion. That's what we do here. |
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You seem secure in your candidate's prospects. Why bother with the demoralization stuff?
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:59 PM
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46. Exactly. Why do Obama's people care if the people in Texas and Ohio vote? |
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They are so sure he's going to win, why do they feel the need to demand Clinton drop out now?
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:55 PM
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11. Never under-estimate Hillary Clinton's |
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ability to bounce back from defeat, and never under-estimate the Obama's supporters' ability to piss off Clinton's supporters badly enough, so that we fight even harder.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:35 PM
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40. Sorry, when exactly has Hillary bounced back from defeat? |
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She lost on health care 14 years ago and now she says it will be another 8 years before she can get another healthcare plan together. That's quite the bounce.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:57 PM
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17. Don't worry, she's going to the convention |
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And so are the 210 delegates and SD she will get from Florida. There is no way she can lose. We voted, she won, she gets our delegates.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:59 PM
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21. No, you broke the rules, You knew ahead of time there would be no delegates, You lose |
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:00 PM
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25. Sure she'll go to the convention.... |
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Obama will let her have a Tuesday night speech.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:58 PM
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18. SHE has not given up and neither have I. /nt |
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:59 PM
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22. Your hurting the party now. Write your girl Hillary and tell her it's time to go |
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:17 PM
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35. probably should write the voters in OH, TX. PA, VT . . . |
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. . . tell them that their participation in this election doesn't mean shit to a handful of Obama supporters here . . .
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:48 PM
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42. And most of the other states didn't mean shit to Hillary |
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Except FLA and MI of course, but her supporters are ok with that.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:05 PM
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26. Thanks for your words of encouragement!!! |
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I will stand by her until the end, no matter what they throw at her I'll fight for her. I worked my buns off as a volunteer in NJ to help her win the state and I will go to PA if I'm needed to help get out the vote in April. I also continue donating to her campaign, as I just did today. I don't want her to lose any state just because she's out financed by Obama.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:19 PM
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Denial IS more than a river in Egypt.
I'm looking forward to the primary season ending so the democrats can heal up and start focusing on winning in November.
Obama knows that he will need a united and enthusiastic party behind him and will go to great measures to assure that this happens.
When you are ready, we look forward to having you join us as we work toward a better future for the UNITED States of America.
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Wed Feb-20-08 04:49 PM
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I don't like Obama and I wouldn't spend a penny of my money nor a minute of my time campaigning for him. Furthermore, after much thought and consideration, I will be staying home in November if he's our nominee.
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:20 PM
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37. Just made another donation to Clinton. |
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:38 PM
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41. I hate it when you can't tell if it is a post or a parody |
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You are aware of the fact that your campaign in the mouth of Lanny Davis has already said that Clinton is Lieberman and Obama is Lamont right?
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Wed Feb-20-08 02:50 PM
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43. Obama people are awfully good at counting their chickens before they hatch. This is just starting |
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to get interesting.
Looking forward to the debates!
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:03 PM
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49. Hillary Supporters are even better at completely ignoring 10 straight blow outs |
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I mean the lowest margin was 17 points. TX and OH are trending the same way every other state has in this election, i.e. large Hillary lead that shrinks rapidly and is usually overcome by Obama as soon as the candidates actually campaign in the states. Even states where Hillary won, i.e. CA and MA - this was the trend, although Obama basically ran out of time in those states.
So Go ahead and keep fighting, as it were, but at some point reality has to sink in and we need to come together if we are going to defeat the real enemy this Fall.
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:06 PM
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You call for Clinton to drop out and then expect us to come together?
You are not getting it.
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Wed Feb-20-08 03:00 PM
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47. I'm with Hillary all the way! |
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I'm new-forgive me if this Newsweek article has been posted already- JUDGMENT CALLS Robert J. Samuelson 2/20
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Hillary for President!!!!
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