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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:56 PM
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Michelle Obama's statement has been edited & changed

Listening to Air America. Michelle said it was the "...first time she had been REALLY proud..." of her country. The Air America host says the link to Drudge Report has been edited to take out the word "really."

Check it out and spread the info.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:58 PM
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1. I've been trying to find the original on YouTube
No luck so far.
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:01 PM
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9. YouTube Link
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:15 PM
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22. Yeah, I just found it
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:17 PM
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23. Thanks for that link!
I sent it, along with a transcript of her words, to MSNBC.



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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:57 PM
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37. There were two speeches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjR81pFJI4

In one she said really, in the other she did not.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:46 PM
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47. Great. Air both of them and let the viewers decide if Michelle hates 'Murika.
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:58 PM
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2. she's how old and it's the first time she has been REALLY proud..
that could be the issue.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:59 PM
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4. No the issue is that the tape was edited.

What's your issue?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:05 PM
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13. For the first time in my adult life, I see that libertee cares about SPIN vice SUBSTANCE.
:evilgrin:

Does anyone here TRULY BELIEVE that Michelle Obama does NOT love her Country?

Now ask yourself? Genuinely reflect on what she MEANT as a black woman who grew up poor? It was hyperbole on her part - BUT "in context" it was heartfelt.

IF those of you petty acting "Cindy McCain wannabes" continue this absurd "feeding frenzy" to drag down this TRUE and GENUINE LADY, it only reflects how delusional and mean-spirited you are willing to be JUST to score a *cheap shot.* :grr: :nuke:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:07 PM
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45. No one doubts her patriotism here
But, this message is going out to people who think humans strolled with dinosaurs.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:55 PM
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34. No - the "snip" is evident. Presenting a doctored tape of somebody's
statement - regardless of WHO made it -- is the issue.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:59 PM
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3. NBC showed the video clip
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 01:59 PM by citizen_jane
last night and twice today.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:00 PM
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5. because it has been edited...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:56 PM
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35. The doctored or undoctored one? nt
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:00 PM
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6. And this matters because?
Nobody in their right f'n mind truly believes that Michelle Obama hates America..









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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:01 PM
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7. Because someone is editing the record..

..and everyone should be concerned about the truth.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:03 PM
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11. And the truth is what?
Michelle Obama hates America..
You know that it is a republican tactic to attack someone on issues of Patriotism.
You do them proud.
Congrats
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:05 PM
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14. Thanks! Here it is:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:06 PM
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15. I say stone her to death!
She hates America!!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:05 PM
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42. I think it does matter
Because it proves the source of the editting is dishonest. I think it also matters because this changes the subject to the editting.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:01 PM
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8. She made the same speech repeatedly.
And edited it herself.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:02 PM
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10. with a scrub scrub here & a buff buff there & a stuff stuff here with a stuff stuff there that's how
we work and sing all day in the merry old land of Oz
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:04 PM
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12. This needs to be investigated
I know the Hillary supporters are going "whats the big deal", but this is no different than the Swiftboat group lying about Kerry in 2004.

Its unacceptable.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:07 PM
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16. No, the republicans and some democrats need to extract their mean-spirited heads out of their a**es
and "turn the page." :shrug:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:09 PM
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17. "turn the page."
Turn the page?!

What are you scared of?

Maybe that the edit happened within another campaign?

Are you sure you want to just roll over and allow more lies?

Im not willing to let this happen again.

You dont like it, tough shit.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:12 PM
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20. Could it be that HRC campaign had something to do with this?
If that is the case, god help them!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:58 PM
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39. No, dont' be silly
there were two speeches. She didn't say "really" in one of them.

You're all hysterical over this and refusing to acknowledge the simple truth - she said what they're saying she said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjR81pFJI4
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:57 PM
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38. Yes. It would be unacceptable if Hillary was the one this happened to. nt
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:11 PM
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18. someone on Thom Hartman just found and played the original tape from CSPAN...really is IN THERE!!!
This has to be blasted to the media and they have to report it. Someone at least get this to Keith that knows how!

An OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:11 PM
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19. Yes the wingers are now editing audio and video
There will be a video soon of Obama saying "I like to cook and eat little white children".
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:14 PM
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21. I don't understand the uproar...
I just watched the clip.

I don't understand the uproar. I don't see how this could be ammunition against her or her husband.

This is the first time in her adult lifetime she has been really proud of her country because people are hungry for change, and it appears that they are actually standing up to do something about it.

It is something to be really proud of.

We've had a lot to be ashamed about for the last 8 years, too.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:27 PM
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25. Some outlets are airing an edited clip that leaves out the word "really."
And they're using the edited clip to basically accuse her of not being proud of America until now. Cindy McCain jumped on the edited clip to tell everyone how proud she is to be an American.


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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:40 PM
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31. Cindy ought to be very careful with her attacks. She's a big target.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:54 PM
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32. Someone needs to ask Cindy her opinion on Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, and the
shredding of the Constitution that has taken place during Bush's reign. Do those things make her proud to be 'Murican?

America is not black or white, but of shades of grey, and Cindy stupidly jumped at the chance to make Michelle Obama look bad.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:28 PM
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26. If you don't understand that editing a tape
and presenting the edited version as the whole thing, then you need to examine your values. It was misleading and dishonest at the very least, and should be exposed and determined who did it. Not only that, shows like Hardball should have been able to discern it had been edited because I could tell it had been watching it on Hardball. They should be called on pushing propaganda.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:09 PM
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46. You're all acting like there's only one tape of one speech
and it's been edited. That's just not true.

There were two speeches - I saw MSNBC show the first one in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjR81pFJI4
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:08 PM
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49. The point is the edited one is the one I saw on
Hardball. That's intentionally misleading the public.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:27 PM
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24. I have no dog in this fight and frankly don't even understand it, but there was
a post last night that may have been locked that said there were two versions...found it! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4668169
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:29 PM
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27. No chance she might have said it twice, huh? And not exactly the same, each time?
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 02:29 PM by redqueen
Unfrickinreal.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:31 PM
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28. That's exactly what happened!!!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:32 PM
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29. Nooo... it's a conspiracy!
Stone her! She's UNUHMURICKUN!
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:33 PM
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30. Sound like the RW "can't be against the war yet support the troops" meme. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:54 PM
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33. I heard that. It's really obvious.


Do they know who initially cut it?

The MSM should run a lot of stories with a visual of MO with TAPE FRAUD across it in big red letters. They are responsible to get the truth out since they perpetrated the untrue version.


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:56 PM
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36. She gave two speeches that day
in one she said "really", in the other she didn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjR81pFJI4
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:01 PM
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40. But the ISSUE is - they are presenting a tape with an obvious "cut" in it as though
it's accurate -- regardless of what she did or didn't say.

If they want to run the one where she didn't say "really", that's fine. But don't take the one where she did use the word and edit it out.

That's just WRONG.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:02 PM
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41. I saw MSNBC show the first tape
unedited, in which she didn't say "really".
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:07 PM
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44. That's fine, then. But don't you think it's wrong to also show a tape where
she DID say "really" but just that word had been edited out?

If she didn't say "really" at one time, just play that one -- don't doctor one in which she did use the word and play that one.

Do you understand the distinction I'm trying to make? When I re-read some of my posts I realize that even though it makes sense in my head, good luck to anyone else trying to figure it out.

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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:07 PM
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43. God help me, I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I agree with you on this one
It's two different speeches, one with 'really' and one without. It appears someone has attempted to remove the word in question from the second speech. I still believe it a huge meaningless distraction, either statement is fine by me.
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Crooked Moon Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:03 PM
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48. tempest in a teapot
although the republicans will couple this with the fact that her thesis is restricted from public view until nov. 5 2008 in order to paint her as a radical.

it's always best, in a chess game, to stay a few moves ahead.

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