Deja Vu from my Edwards supporting days: Calls for Hillary to step down, drop out.

[PresidentObama]

Here's a thought:

NO!

Let her decide. Enough of the speculation, enough of the guessing game, enough of wondering which date her campaign will sink like the Titanic...

This race is FAR from over! We still have some delegate rich states to go, we still have two viable candidates in a close race.

Oh fuck it, enough of this rant piece. I'm just going to throw my computer at the wall.

:argh:

[Taverner]

1. Doesn't it all hinge on TX?

If she lost TX, then it would make sense for her to drop out - but isn't that where it all hinges
?

[PresidentObama]

2. I'd say if she doesn't win OH, PA, and TX....She should. But like I said, it's not up to me.

And DU shouldn't call for her to drop out when she's still very much viable, and in the race to win the nomination.

[gateley]

6. She probably would -- and I think Bill hinted as such in a snip I read today.

But I think she should keep going until -- IF -- she decides it's a lost cause. Regardless of my feelings about her, she's worked hard for this for a long time, and is giving it her all. Anybody who does that deserves to have it play out,

[PresidentObama]

9. Agreed and nicely said n/t

[high density]

PA is in late April

Two months more of this shitfest is too much. If the outcome of OH and TX next month are not in her favor then it's time for her to give up. For one thing I don't know where she'd find money to continue running the campaign, short of loaning herself more money.

[PresidentObama]

12. Nope, she'll decide. Not you.

[high density]

16. Thank God for that, because we all know that we need her shitting on Obama for a couple more months

so she can stroke her own ego.

[TheUniverse]

3. Close race????? She just lost 10 in a row.

[PresidentObama]

7. And she's still not massively behind in delegates, and has states leaning in her favor coming up.

The race is still very close.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. Uh... Edwards did drop out.

And he didn't because he didn't want to delay the inevitable. He put the party over himself.

[PresidentObama]

5. Yes, yes he did. But he did it when he felt appropiate, when he no longer felt viable.

I remember when the "Drop out Edwards" shit started here, it was right after Iowa when he was still very much in the race and viable.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Right.

And Edwards position when he dropped out was more tenable than Clinton's position is now.

[PresidentObama]

14. If you say so n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. Sure it was.

Clinton has to win landslides in TX, PA, and OH just to break even.

All Edwards would have had to do was win a few states on Super Tuesday, and he would have tied it up.

But he knew that was unlikely so he did the right thing and step aside.

Clinton knows her odds are even less likely, but she is not going to take the high road.

[scheming daemons]

13. In a historic year of a female candidate and an AA candidate, Edwards was NEVER viable.....

...you were kidding yourself.


His problem was timing.... he was going up against history on two fronts.

[PresidentObama]

15. Yeah, yeah. I've heard this a hundred million times...

...and everytime it sounds just as stupid.

[Armstead]

10. Fixed your computer yet?

I can understand your frustrations.

I supported Edwards. Although I wish Edwards had been able to stay and win, I do think he did the right thing when he realized that he didn't have enough support to achieve his goals and that his presence would needlesly muddy the waters.

I agree that Hillary should make her own decision. But for the sake of winning in November, I really think she should set her personal ambitions aside and step down.

Despite some housekeeping, the GOP is strapped in and ready to roll for the General. The Democrats ought to be doing the same thing. Otherwise both Dem candidates are going to be muddying each otehr up while the GOP is muddying both.

[incapsulated]

11. Ignore it

Really, I've pretty much given up on this forum, it's no better than a school yard.

Focus on REALITY.

The *reality* is, Hillary isn't going anywhere and this ISN'T OVER YET.

In addition, internet forums actually have no effect on the campaigns of either candidate, I know this may come as a shock to some here.

:silly:

[liberalnurse]

18. Obama 's dime on his Hope and Change Gospel Tour

is about spent. It is far from over...no rush Obamarites...we have untl August 30th.

Lets see how long this empty suit can hold up under real scrutiny ?

[MadBadger]

21. I cant wait till you join me on this Hope and change Gospel Tour

[MadBadger]

19. While you're at it, Go all Office Space on your computer.

[PresidentObama]

22. Only if you'll help :)

I love that movie!

[MadBadger]

25. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta n/t.

[PresidentObama]

27. Milton has my feelings on DU lately: "That's the last straw, I'm going to burn down the building"

[MadBadger]

32. I think its crucial on DU that we admit both sides have their ass holes

[PresidentObama]

35. Yep, very much so. Thank gawd this is almost over.

Then onto kicking some John McCain ass!

[Johnny__Motown]

20. YES, look what Edwards did by holding on when he had no chance

If he had left when Biden, Dodd and Richardson did, or even after Nevada, then the Florida problem might not exist. Obama would bave done better (as he has with every other 1v1 contest) and the delegates in question would not be enough to effect the outcome of this race.


Edwards screwed up by staying in to long and may have damaged the party.


Hillary is staying in to long and may damage the party.




To "borrow" a line... doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome....

[PresidentObama]

23. She's ahead in the polls in the next few contests, why would she bow out now?

Afraid of competition?

[MadBadger]

26. I think it be stupid of her to bow out, but I dont think shes ahead in Texas anymore

Just a hunch. Two polls put it at a 2-5 point Clinton lead prior to Wisconsin/Hawaii. I think he will be in the lead and eventually win their. I do think shes still ahead in Ohio. I see Obama winning Texas, Rhode Island, and Vermont on March 4. If she loses 3 out of 4 on March 4 and doesnt wins a close one in the other, than she should start looking at the numbers.

[PresidentObama]

28. Isn't Hillary ahead in Rhode Island in the polls?

Vermont, I don't know much about the polls and the demographics there.

[MadBadger]

31. Have you seen a poll out of Rhode Island?

I think it will be a good place for Obama, and cali swears by Vermont. Not to mention Pat Leahy and the support of Ben and Jerry's!!

[PresidentObama]

33. Yes, actually I have. It was like 30 something for Clinton, and upper 20's for Obama.

I don't remember which pollster did it, but it was sort of recent.

I know that doesn't help, but I saw it on political wire. Just too lazy to go digging for it.

[MadBadger]

34. I remember that I think. It was a week ago or so, and had a shitload of undecideds.

Yea, I dont think that has much weight right now.

[PresidentObama]

36. Well, it's a good place to start for our never ending speculation.

[MadBadger]

37. Is Rhode Island Open or Not? Because if its open, Lincoln Chafee could do a lot of help.

[PresidentObama]

38. That I don't know.

[Orangepeel]

24. Well, either way, she's not going to be pursuaded by posts on DU

Of course Clinton will decide when she decides. But I can have an opinion on whether or not I think that is wise and/or good for the party. Others can disagree.

There's nothing wrong with discussing the implications and potential consequences of a candidate dropping out. It isn't like a candidate is going to listen to DUers on the matter.

[PresidentObama]

30. Very true. DU means nothing n/t

[Major Hogwash]

29. This bird's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords.

Yeah, right!