First Hillary 527 ad to run in Ohio

[yourguide]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMVbE8Q7FOw

It's not as swiftboaty as expected however this looks like the only way hil can raise any money. Gotta go back to donors who already hit their max to donate to the 527.

see it before its deleted.

from politico:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/ProHillary_527s_first_spot.html

[Saturday]

1. So now speaking the truth is "swiftboaty"? Good grief. Whine much?nt

[yourguide]

3. I now see the reason

your user name is yada yada yada...makes perfect sense.

[Saturday]

8. Insulting me doesn't change the truth now does it? n/t

[yourguide]

9. considering there is no truth there

again, your comments seen like some sort of static noise.

[Saturday]

12. Again, your insults to me don't change the truth. n/t

[yourguide]

15. considering your first response was insulting

you might want to check yourself.

God, my SECOND ignore today.

bye bye yada!


editted to add, sorry your candidate is going to lose.

[rodeodance]

26. see this-----

OP told me i was put on Ignore also today.



UPDATE---from ABC Jack Tapper---on the Clinton 527 ads: First one was deliberate Hillary smear!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html

From ABC---Jack Tapper----the same blogger who has made 2 recent ‘mistakes” when writing about Hillary Clinton. He corrects them later when the damage has been done.

Tapper has now Omitted this phase:
“ALP has developed three ads aimed at tarnishing Sen. Barack Obama, “

Many here in GD-P have translated this to assume that all these ads will be **attack”** ads
And have subsequently posted demeaning comments about her and the campaign.

Also the original poster had inserted the word ‘attack” into the OP

“ABC News: Clinton supporters have set up a 527 to attack Obama”

Lets not assume these to be attach ads. Thank you.


REVISED POST-from Tapper: (earlier writing was posted here on GD-P also-see below)
....

“ALP has developed three ads aimed at pushing the idea that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is a talker and not a doer -- the ads are called “If speeches could solve problems" -- and they will contrast Obama and Clinton on issues of importance to middle class voters, such as the economy, health care, and the mortgage crisis.
.....

NOTE: Some minor tweaks in diction to this post were made for accuracy about the actual ads. And the sentence about the ads not mentioning Obama by name was added”



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html


This is FROM an earlier post:


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html

New Pro-Clinton 527 to Ding Obama in Ohio



……….ALP has developed three ads aimed at tarnishing Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, as a talker and not a doer -- the ads are called “If speeches could solve problems" -- and they will contrast Obama and Clinton on issues of importance to middle class voters, such as the economy, health care, and the mortgage crisis.

………..

[KAZ]

43. Ya da, ya da, ya da. n/t

[rodeodance]

56. yet another obama fan choosing to live in a bubble.

[KAZ]

61. Flew right over your head, didn't it. n/t

[Renew Deal]

38. You're in their league.

You'll just have to live with that.

[stellanoir]

2. Yeah Hill keep working on this issues. . .

in the Senate.

[Johnny__Motown]

4. you beat me to it, I wanted to post that

[samdogmom]

14. Thanks! My reaction, too.

The ad fails to specify where she should "keep working".

I think the ad will help with name recognition, but I doubt it will win her voters. It doesn't ask anyone to vote for her for President.

I'm glad to see that the tone is positive and that the ad focuses on Hillary--no Barack put-downs. I can live with these kinds of "527" contributions. Although, it really is just a way to skirt the campaign fund-raising law--allowing big supporters to give her more money indirectly so she finally has enough funds to mount a television campaign.

[ShortnFiery]

5. That's it. Chelsea best stay on Wall Street, because I'll not vote for another "Clinton" EVER again

The FILTH the Clintonian DLC spews when it's down is disgusting. They need to be drummed out of our party. They do NOT deserve the votes of people who truly believe in the VALUES of The Democratic Party.

:thumbsdown:

[BuyingThyme]

6. I can't watch at this time. What's the gist?

Are 527s allowed to raise money?

WTF Jasper?

[XemaSab]

16. Speeches don't create jobs

blah blah blah Outsourcing has lost jobs in Ohio, and foreclosures mean people will lose their homes, something, some Governor, economic blueprint, blah blah blah.

There. :)

[City Lights]

42. Speeches don't create jobs, but they do make millions. At least for some.

I notice they left that part out. ;-)

[XemaSab]

48. And those millions feed back into

hiring speechwriters and drivers and gofers and consultants and the circus rolls on. :crazy:

[XemaSab]

18. I watched it again...

my summary was... interesting. ;)

[islandmkl]

35. i think you left out one blah

[David Zephyr]

7. I don't think that would be a 527 ad because it advocates a candidate (Hillary).

A 527 can only attack a candidate, not promote one.

[yourguide]

11. Oh interesting...

really?

[David Zephyr]

31. That's my understanding, but I could be wrong.

Perhaps someone here knows better.

[rodeodance]

50. The outside money can be used for any purpose. Obama used it

register some voters in CA.


People are assuming these are attach ads.

[NightWatcher]

10. her PAC the ALP sounds like a Tom Delay organization

[XemaSab]

13. The rebuttal to that one writes itself

Good grief.

I'm almost believing that Hillary's campaign is a "plant," you know, the guy in the audience who asks "What's your plan for creating jobs for American families?" and the candidate goes "I'm glad you asked that..."

[rodeodance]

17. That word -swiftboating is entirely overused here on DU

[XemaSab]

20. Swifeboating?

When did you stop boating your swife? :shrug:

[thevoiceofreason]

23. Rodeo, a little Freudian slip? "Swifeboating?"

[rodeodance]

34. no, a simple type- thanks for the heads up. I will edit.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

41. "sWifeBoating" its when wives of candidates are attacked

and DU coins a new political term!!!

:rofl:

[City Lights]

45. That's frickin' hysterical!

swifeboating

:rofl:

[yourguide]

47. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

And there will be plenty of that over "Miss I stole drugs from a non profit to feed my own habit".

[rodeodance]

24. UPDATE---from ABC Jack Tapper---on the Clinton 527 ads: First one was deliberate Hillary smear!

UPDATE---from ABC Jack Tapper---on the Clinton 527 ads: First one was deliberate Hillary smear!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html

From ABC---Jack Tapper----the same blogger who has made 2 recent ‘mistakes” when writing about Hillary Clinton. He corrects them later when the damage has been done.

Tapper has now Omitted this phase:
“ALP has developed three ads aimed at tarnishing Sen. Barack Obama, “

Many here in GD-P have translated this to assume that all these ads will be **attack”** ads
And have subsequently posted demeaning comments about her and the campaign.

Also the original poster had inserted the word ‘attack” into the OP

“ABC News: Clinton supporters have set up a 527 to attack Obama”

Lets not assume these to be attach ads. Thank you.


REVISED POST-from Tapper: (earlier writing was posted here on GD-P also-see below)
....

“ALP has developed three ads aimed at pushing the idea that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is a talker and not a doer -- the ads are called “If speeches could solve problems" -- and they will contrast Obama and Clinton on issues of importance to middle class voters, such as the economy, health care, and the mortgage crisis.
.....

NOTE: Some minor tweaks in diction to this post were made for accuracy about the actual ads. And the sentence about the ads not mentioning Obama by name was added”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html


This is FROM an earlier post:


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html

New Pro-Clinton 527 to Ding Obama in Ohio



……….ALP has developed three ads aimed at tarnishing Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, as a talker and not a doer -- the ads are called “If speeches could solve problems" -- and they will contrast Obama and Clinton on issues of importance to middle class voters, such as the economy, health care, and the mortgage crisis.

………..

[grantcart]

28. really well let me ask you a simple yes or no question rodeo

If this turns out to be a softening first step and really heavy shit is dumped out by this 527 before Mar 4 and Hillary has not told them to cease and desist will you renounce Hillary as a candidate? Swift boating doesn't start with their heaviest ammo, they started light and built up to it as they got the people conditioned to it. So far this fits the classical model.

[rodeodance]

37. That is not a yes/no binary response.

[grantcart]

19. this is just a toe in the water to get people used to the idea that 527s are no big deal

the really dirty stuff will be unleashed a few days before the election so that there will not be enough time to respond. Note the 'plagerism' charge came 48 hours before Wisconsin. March 1-2 will see some of the dirtiest shit anyone has ever seen - unless the party elders step in and start serving notice.

Oh whats that? Yes the Teamsters just served notice.

[SOS]

21. Ad sponsored by "Leadership Project"

The advertised web site does not exist.
Empty site registered to a political PR firm called Acosta Salazar.

Inspiring!

[thesubstanceofdreams]

22. This is a pretty mellow ad

Not that I agree with the content, but it's not swiftboating by any stretch of the imagination.

[yourguide]

32. That was my point.

I wonder if the poll numbers yesterday showed the HRC camp that neg ads wont work or if they are just trying to funnel money from maxed out donors so they can run more ads.

I dont agree with it either, it is negative, there are def a few false statements in there, but I have seen far worse 527s.


I suspect its more a money thing than anything...I mean what is she doing in NY this morning hosting a fundraiser when she should be in either TX or OH working her ass off. My guess is NYC is the only place she can still really draw a crowd that can give her some funds.

[underpants]

25. It is a good ad

NOTE it says that she "worked" to end tax breaks for corporations that took jobs overseas, that doesn't mean that it was enacted. I doubt many viewers will catch that but I thought it should be pointed out.

Good ad.

[high density]

27. Hillary please keep working on these solutions in the senate

Now please graciously leave the race and lick your wounds.

[THUNDER HANDS]

29. ever notice that the pro-hillary videos on youtube tend to have the comments section disabled?

[NJSecularist]

30. I'd expect ALP's ads to get progressively more dirty in the next two weeks

You don't create 527 groups just to air aids that are just more of the same ads your own campaign has produced.

This is just a preview of what is to come. I'd expect them to get much more dirty as we move closer to March 4th.

[rodeodance]

40. allways reading to diss Clinton. typical

[NJSecularist]

46. Obama isn't the one with 527 advocacy groups creating ads trying to smear his opponent

[rodeodance]

57. did you honestly watch the ad?

[rodeodance]

33. Jack Tapper started this ---and a DU used "attack" in thread line:--see this

UPDATE---from ABC Jack Tapper---on the Clinton 527 ads: First one was deliberate Hillary smear!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html

From ABC---Jack Tapper----the same blogger who has made 2 recent ‘mistakes” when writing about Hillary Clinton. He corrects them later when the damage has been done.

Tapper has now Omitted this phase:
“ALP has developed three ads aimed at tarnishing Sen. Barack Obama, “

Many here in GD-P have translated this to assume that all these ads will be **attack”** ads
And have subsequently posted demeaning comments about her and the campaign.

Also the original poster had inserted the word ‘attack” into the OP

“ABC News: Clinton supporters have set up a 527 to attack Obama”

Lets not assume these to be attach ads. Thank you.


REVISED POST-from Tapper: (earlier writing was posted here on GD-P also-see below)
....

“ALP has developed three ads aimed at pushing the idea that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is a talker and not a doer -- the ads are called “If speeches could solve problems" -- and they will contrast Obama and Clinton on issues of importance to middle class voters, such as the economy, health care, and the mortgage crisis.
.....

NOTE: Some minor tweaks in diction to this post were made for accuracy about the actual ads. And the sentence about the ads not mentioning Obama by name was added”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html


This is FROM an earlier post:


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/new-pro-clinton.html

New Pro-Clinton 527 to Ding Obama in Ohio



……….ALP has developed three ads aimed at tarnishing Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, as a talker and not a doer -- the ads are called “If speeches could solve problems" -- and they will contrast Obama and Clinton on issues of importance to middle class voters, such as the economy, health care, and the mortgage crisis.

………..

[ElsewheresDaughter]

44. the ad speaks right to the heart of the matter quite nicely

[rodeodance]

49. damm-----i am so sick of these smears!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

36. nice ad...thank you for the link too

[mrJJ]

39. Foolish Dems

You Dems are your own worst enemy. Using a 527 in your own primary campaign is insane! Must be nice to waste the money. Anyway the Republican Freedomwatch 527 is ready to drop $250 Million Dollars to use against All Dem candidates this 08. Is it the Party of me? or is it the Party of We? Oh well...

The Republicans have amassed a purpoted $250 million dollar 527 to throw at the Dems in 08. Be forewarned...

snip

The group aims to spend approximately $250 million for a 2008 cycle onslaught against the Dems, a vast amount of money they apparently plan to use not only on the presidential election, but to greater effect in numerous House and Senate races throughout the country, where six figures can go a long way.

To review the White House connections: the group is headed by Bradley Blakeman, a former Bush White House official, Mel Sembler, a millionaire former Bush admbassador to Italy, and Ari Fleischer, who serves as the group's spokesman. Much of its support so far has come from Sembler and casino magnate and billionaire Sheldon Adelson, the sixth richest person in the world.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/005103.php

[yourguide]

53. As I stated

it sounds like HRC is low on funds and this might be the only way she can run advertising by hitting up her own donors who are maxed out in her campaign donations.

See: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

Clinton 527 in OH, TX, PA?
Posted: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:59 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton, Ads

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro

A hat tip to the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder, who broke the news that there is a pro-Clinton 527 planning "an expensive, stealth campaign to buttress her standing in the must-win states of Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania," he writes. "They're canvassing Clinton donors for pledges of up to $100,000 in the hope of raising at least $10M by the end of next week."

And a hat tip to Politico's Ben Smith, where we found the video of the 527's first ad for Clinton to run in Ohio.

[Egnever]

51. I like it

its a good add

[jenmito]

52. Obama AGREES with the ad-speeches DON'T do any of those things. But he, as president, will DO the

things he gives speeches ABOUT.

[dempartisan23]

54. hillary has decided to destroy the dem party

i have no idea why she seems bent on our defeat in november.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

55. get a grip ...you seem quite hysterical please don't faint Obama give her a bottle of water!

[rodeodance]

58. hey sweetie. These are the Dem primaries. get that?? can you grasp that concept??

[Khaotic]

59. Watched It and ...

YAWN!!!

[Tatiana]

60. Hello? This is actually a VERY GOOD ad! Too bad her own campaign couldn't come up with it. n/t