Bloomberg: New York count 'fraud'

[Meshuga]

"Mayor Michael Bloomberg says the results for the New York Democratic presidential primary suggest that 'fraud' has been committed.

The New York mayor was pointing to unofficial results in which Senator Barack Obama reportedly recieved no votes in nearly 80 New York State districts..."


http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=44015§ionid=3510203

[tekisui]

1. It is impossible for him to have received "0" votes anywhere.

Something happened, for real.

[Meshuga]

2. I wonder what what districts had these issues

That would be interesting to know.

[tekisui]

3. Amy Goodman was talking about it yesterday.

Districts bordering those with zero votes, just blocks away, had Obama wins.

[tekisui]

6. Here's more on it.

Source: The Global Intercept
http://globalintercept.blogspot.com/2008/02/election-irregularities-reported-zero.html

The New York Times has reported that its own review of election night tally reporting "found about 80 election districts among the city’s 6,106 where Mr. Obama supposedly did not receive even one vote, including cases where he ran a respectable race in a nearby district."

Their report also found that some of these contests were close enough that one or two votes could sway the precinct. "In the Harlem district, for instance, where the primary night returns suggested a 141 to 0 sweep by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, the vote now stands at 261 to 136. In an even more heavily black district in Brooklyn — where the vote on primary night was recorded as 118 to 0 for Mrs. Clinton — she now barely leads, 118 to 116."

[Meshuga]

12. Thanks! n/t

[Blue State Bandit]

22. I think Harlem was one. (Updated)

Harlem Mystery: Did Rangel's District Go for Barack Obama?

Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem's 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama.

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What New Yorkers should be asking for, however, is a complete review of the results in New York City, with a heavy focus not just on the 80 election district where Obama supposedly received no votes but also on those where it appears that his vote was far below the level of support that he received in surrounding districts -- and that might reasonably be expected.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080216/cm_thenation/1286025

[Beregond2]

4. Bloomberg

I'm glad to see him bringing attention to this. It seems to have fallen off the radar lately.

[Redstone]

5. OK, I stand corrected. Thank you guys for supplying the confirmation.

Redstone

[tekisui]

8. How about the NY Times?

Black voters are heavily represented in the 94th Election District in Harlem’s 70th Assembly District. Yet according to the unofficial results from the New York Democratic primary last week, not a single vote in the district was cast for Senator Barack Obama.

That anomaly was not unique. In fact, a review by The New York Times of the unofficial results reported on primary night found about 80 election districts among the city’s 6,106 where Mr. Obama supposedly did not receive even one vote, including cases where he ran a respectable race in a nearby district.

City election officials this week said that their formal review of the results, which will not be completed for weeks, had confirmed some major discrepancies between the vote totals reported publicly — and unofficially — on primary night and the actual tally on hundreds of voting machines across the city.

In the Harlem district, for instance, where the primary night returns suggested a 141 to 0 sweep by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, the vote now stands at 261 to 136. In an even more heavily black district in Brooklyn — where the vote on primary night was recorded as 118 to 0 for Mrs. Clinton — she now barely leads, 118 to 116.

The history of New York elections has been punctuated by episodes of confusion, incompetence and even occasional corruption. And election officials and lawyers for both Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton agree that it is not uncommon for mistakes to be made by weary inspectors rushing on election night to transcribe columns of numbers that are delivered first to the police and then to the news media.

That said, in a presidential campaign in which every vote at the Democratic National Convention may count, a swing of even a couple of hundred votes in New York might help Mr. Obama gain a few additional delegates.

link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?_r=1&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Organizations/D/Democratic%20Party&oref=slogin

[Redstone]

11. I stand corrected.

Redstone

[tekisui]

10. The NY Sun?

The city's Board of Elections is coming under heightened scrutiny and may face a grilling from the City Council after initial, unofficial vote results from the February 5 presidential primary undercounted Senator Obama's vote totals and showed him winning no votes in dozens of election districts across the city.

The chairman of the council's Governmental Operations Committee, Simcha Felder, is calling for hearings to examine the way unofficial election results are announced.

"The irregularities in the unofficial presidential primary election results warrant further examination," he told The New York Sun yesterday. "The New York State election process is especially susceptible to human error, and unfortunately these occurrences are frequent."

About 80 election districts in New York initially reported that Mr. Obama received no votes, but tallies released later from the Board of Elections showed that the Illinois senator did collect votes in some of those districts.

link: http://www.nysun.com/article/71438

[BuyingThyme]

7. kcik

[Fredda Weinberg]

9. NY's election system has been broken for years. The next time a DUer

claims that our lever system is better than optically scanned paper ballots, call 'em out.

Mike later clarified he was talking about systemic problems ... political hacks in charge, etc. Not a deliberate scheme to rob any particlar candidate - it's always used against poor and minority districts.

[shenmue]

13. Bloomberg is a Republican.

And he's a mayor. How the hell can he talk about the whole state?

Oh, he ran as a Democrat and then switched parties. Anybody still care about that? Anybody outside of the state even know?

No, you don't. Because that's a fact, and facts don't get into your little world, only rumors.

Excuse me, but doesn't it take a long time to count the votes in a large state? And didn't Bloomberg's Republican party throw the last two presidential elections into the toilet?

You have no proof, and until you do, don't make shit up. No one can point to a machine or a ballot or a committee or a place that was supposedly to blame. No one has any, uh, *evidence.*

Because it's not possible that people could want to vote for the Senator who actually hails from their state... oh, no...

See, people are not allowed to vote for Senator Clinton, and districts with populous African-American communities could not possibly vote for somebody, um, white?! Since when is that allowed to happen? :sarcasm: :puke:

In the Obama supporter universe, if you voted for anyone else, let's look into it because it couldn't be okay.

I mean, you're not trying to screw up the results like Rove did with his rioters in the hall outside the vote count office, because New York is one of the biggest states and has a ton of delegates, right?

Plant rumors early, so they can grow, and we can have plenty of shitty Internet memes rocketing around, so that people reduce it to, "I heard this," "No, I heard this," instead of actual fact-checking.

Sure, 'cause as per normal in the Obama camp, one person's opinion proves something as fact.

:eyes:

Sure.

[tekisui]

14. Please look upthread and read the report in the NY Times.

It is impossible for Obama to have received "0" votes. When they looked into it, the original count went from 118-0 (Clinton) to 118-116, so far.

Every person's vote counts. You should read what's already been said before you post.

Something happened in 80 districts.

[grace0418]

16. But don't you think ZERO votes sounds a bit suspicious? Not "Obama didn't

win so it must be election fraud", but ZERO. Even the most loony-toons candidates will get a few votes.

[no name no slogan]

18. That's some shoddy election theft going on there

ZERO votes? Like you said, almost EVERY candidate gets a least a single vote in any precinct that has over 100 voters in it.

[tekisui]

19. When they looked into it the vote count went from 118-0 to 118-116

[adabfree]

17. Come on Now...not one vote in some places...not one? Wake the fcuk up...and smell the theft

[TheWraith]

21. Excuse me, but you're defending election fraud?

It's pretty clear that these initial returns were utterly bogus, yet somehow you're trying to blame the victim? Oh, right, the Obama campaign is so powerful in Hillary's home state that instead of getting ZERO votes in 80 districts, which is scientifically impossible, they can just make up some new votes. Right. :sarcasm:.

[Hutzpa]

15. uh... uh... now what do we have here

a thunder storm on its way, looks like a Huricane,

HURRICANE Bloomberg.

[AlertLurker]

20. Why are people continually posting this bullshit?

Didn't it give you a clue when it was first (and only)reported as "fraud" in the NY POST??? Even the NY Times chalked it up to human error.

Crack open the back of the voting machines:

Clinton was on the first roll. Obama was on the FIFTH. Many election officials mistakenly read the first and SECOND rolls. Mystery solved.

"Candidates were listed from left to right in an order selected by drawing lots. Mrs. Clinton was first, followed by Gov. Bill Richardson and Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., who in most election districts received zero votes, and by John Edwards, who got relatively few. Mr. Obama was fifth, just before Representative Dennis J. Kucinich.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin



If they were trying to rig the vote, do you honestly believe that he would have gotten ZERO???Sheesh.

[jazzjunkysue]

23. Paging John Kerry. Would President Kerry please report to the oval office.

That is all.