Is fairness a fundamental progressive/liberal value?

[Bread and Circus]

Oh yeah, maybe I should add this:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/11348/1018/256/460439

Wolfson is dishonest: They are going after pledged delegates
by LoLoLaLa
Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 08:42:16 AM PST
edited the title to please the grammar nazis

I’m in Vegas and last night myself and a dozen or so other Obama supporters were at the Culinary Union calling our Obama delegates. I probably made about 100 calls and about 95 said Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been calling them "all day" or at least once already.

The fact that they're calling them isn't a big deal, NV's Democratic party put out a list of delegates that doesn't include who the individual is a delegate for. However, we crossed their list, with our list of supporters and we're calling OUR delegates.

What gets me heated is, everyone who said Hillary's campaign called them also said they were encouraged to switch their support from Obama to Hillary . One man even said the person who called him "wouldn't let it go" and when he angrily told them he wasn't going to drop his support for Obama, they just hung up the phone on him.

The Clinton campaign has called me three times already since 2pm yesterday....

[Occam Bandage]

1. Fair opportunity is. Equal results are not.

[bunnies]

2. "fairness". A little more vague please. nt

[bluedawg12]

6. Is "fair" a liberal value? Vague enough? LOL n/t

[Bread and Circus]

8. Well, what does fairness mean to you?

[XemaSab]

3. It sure is

http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/projects/strategic/nationasfamily/npworldview

[Polly Hennessey]

4. Dear Bread and Circus

You got that one right.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. It depends on the outcome

if it's favorable, then yes it's fair, and fairness is an important value. If the outcome is unfavorable, then no, fairness doesn't matter.

That's true for all people, liberal or conservative or in between.

[rox63]

13. It sounds to me like you're saying the ends justify the means

Whether something is fair or not should have nothing to do with the outcome. Fairness always matters.

[FiveGoodMen]

7. I'd say it's the first. The value from which all other liberal positions flow.

Which tells you pretty clearly what conservatism's values stem from.

[Bread and Circus]

11. I definitely agree.

[noamnety]

9. The real question is

who gets to define what's fair?

[Bread and Circus]

10. Kick, with a little context.

[babylonsister]

12. Kick for more discussion! nt

[K Gardner]

14. Well, we knew when this unfolded over the past couple days that SOMEONE was lying..

either it was Wolfson, or it was the surrogates on TV who said yes they were going after delegates. The Clinton Campaign is rife with dishonesty and underhanded Rovian tactics.

This is just another example. They nailed him on this on the MSM when he vowed they weren't doing it. Hopefully they'll play his words back to him and this will get wide media coverage.

Edited to add: Clinton has no regard for fairness. Only what will get her the nomination. All else be damned.