OBAMA LIFTS SOME MORE...... Not from Deval Patrick this time.

[boston bean]

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story?id=4320717&page=1

The clip shows former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., announcing his first run for president in 2003. Edwards says: "I haven't spent most of my life in politics, as most of you know, but I've spent enough time in Washington to know how much we need to change Washington."

Obama announced, "I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington. But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change."




First one is Edwards announcing his candidacy in 2003, the second is Obama announcing his candidacy.

Just more evidence of the man behind the curtain Axelrod, and that Obama is nothing but a rhetorical speaker with no originality.

[chascarrillo]

1. Weak sauce.

[stevedeshazer]

2. That's it. I've changed my mind.

I'm voting for McCain.

[Arkana]

3. You're kinda reaching there, buddy.

[high density]

4. Next you guys will question him for speaking English.

:shrug:

[BeatleBoot]

5. Sounds Like a Pattern is Emerging....

[Blue_State_Elitist]

6. The Axelrod campaign script is pretty good.

And Obama is the perfect actor to read the lines.

[Arkana]

12. Breaking News: OBAMA USES THE WORD "THE" IN CAMPAIGN SPEECH

[Bicoastal]

17. But only once.

:evilgrin:

[jackson_dem]

27. This explains why he is great at speeches, mediocre to lousy at debating

Maybe he can talk to Dubya and get the debate cheat under his suit too?

[Labors of Hercules]

59. He is not "lousy at debating".

not by a long shot.

[pocoloco]

7. Got delegates?

Don't need much else?

[Thrill]

8. LOL Give it a break

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. My question is, who owns the words the politicians or the speechwriters?

[Bicoastal]

10. These two sentiments couldn't have been dreamed up independently?

After all, bringing change back to Washington isn't in itself a terribly original concept.

[boston bean]

16. I think it's pretty obvious Axelrod is behind all of it, which does not bode well for obama

you do know axelrod worked for JRE in 2003, right?

[Bicoastal]

25. That makes it BETTER, actually.

Because then they're Axelrod's words, not Edwards'. If he wanted Obama to use them, what's the harm?

Do you have a problem with candidates working with writers to hone their speeches? Or just when Obama does it and not Edwards?

This thing is just going in circles.

[MoonRiver]

11. The Great Pretender. n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. I guess you're saying the same thing about John Edwards then.

Wev :eyes:

[tabatha]

14. Oh good grief.

Has Clinton not said the same?

[NashVegas]

15. Not Quite the Same Thing

What made the Patrick nicking relevant was that the speech had a specific, unique, gist to get across.

This, not so much, IMO.

[boston bean]

19. I will agree, except they are both announcement speeches. You think that a little strange? nt

[jgraz]

18. Please stop this shit

Obama is going to be our nominee. Deal with it. Quit handing ammo to the Repugs.

[boston bean]

21. It comes from ABC news, how am I handing ammo to the repugs? nt

[jgraz]

35. You seriously cannot be that dumb, can you?

[Scurrilous]

39. Actually, it comes from the Clinton campaign...

"On Wednesday, the Clinton campaign pointed ABC News to another example, which, they say, shows that Obama borrows material."

[Renew Deal]

42. I'd love to see Hillary deny this shit again.

The Clinton's don't know how to tell the truth.

[NashVegas]

36. Please Stop Attempts at Censoring

It's highly doubtful the GOP is getting its opposition research from DU threads.

[Renew Deal]

41. But we know some at DU get opposition research from the GOP.

[jgraz]

43. Clinton camp... GOP... it's starting to be difficult to tell the difference

Both are spending all their time slagging on our presumptive nominee.

[earthlover]

40. did you notice McCain?

He took on Obama...using Hillary's play book.

Well, sad thing is that it ain't gonna work for McCain any more than it did for hillary.

But it is illustrative of the fact that when we do negative campaigning against each other we help the Repubs

[shadowknows69]

20. Oh my aching ass

And God said "let there be light" long before GE was making bulbs. Come on!

[Kaylee]

22. This is getting old....these statements are pretty general.

Plagiarism charges haven't made a difference to how people view Obama....let's move on.

[Debi]

23. Then he used the word "the"

and went on to use the word "and"

and even used the term "I'm running for President of the United States of America"

:eyes:

devistating....

[rocktivity]

24. ..

rocknation

[bowens43]

26. Another ridiculous attempt to smear obama.

You people really are pathetic. YOu have nothing, absolutely nothing. You sound like a bunch whiny third graders

[Kahuna]

28. Are you kidding me???? nt

[Iceburg]

29. As a Hillary supporter, I have to say this is beyond lame/nt

[ProSense]

30. "Clinton Lies About Plagiarism Attack," and "plagiarizes" John Kerry

"Clinton Lies About Plagiarism Attack," and "plagiarizes" John Kerry

[Windy]

31. Do you spend your entire day looking for some little shred of what you determine to be something

to try and thow at the Obama campaign?

To bad you didn't put your efforts to better use on the ground for your candidate. Maybe she'd be doing better in the primaries.

I am so sick and tired of the HRC supporters calling Obama supporters childish, mean spirited and accusing them of attacking Hillary.

You, Jasmine621 and others constantly try to distort and twist in an effort to dissuade obama supporters. Do you think that we don't see through these games?

Please, quit making a fool of yourself.

[frogcycle]

32. Hey, if Pat Riley can get a copyright on "Three-peat"*

I guess nobody should ever be allowed to utter a word that someone else has uttered.

I can't wait for the next debate: a staring contest - the one who laughs first has to drop out.

*he actually did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-peat

[cali]

33. bwahahahaha

you're kidding. That's one of the oldest lines in presidential politics. Too funny- in a sad kind of way.

:rofl:

[Barack_America]

34. Hillaryis44?

How's the site holding up today, anyway?

[GoldieAZ49]

47. LOL It is pathetic

I looked at it today, it is imploding.

They need to change it to Hillaryis60

[Occam Bandage]

37. Oh, that's weak.

[Renew Deal]

38. Hey Hillary supporters... This is what you stand for.

I hope you can live with yourselves.

[cottonseed]

44. There was a post earlier about how mean Obama supporters where.

The OP was sad at what had become of the site. I put myself in their shoes, and I kind of felt bad there for a while. I almost started to believe that maybe some younger, over exuberant Obama supporters were getting a little out of line. After reading this, I realize that there's some old time Hillary supporters that are the trash, that even the trash throws out in the morning.

[boston bean]

46. It's a news story from ABC NEWS, fer chrissakes. get a freakin grip. Welcome aboard newbie! nt

[cottonseed]

48. Thanks for the condescending welcome!

I see you joined around 2005. I don't know what that corresponds to, but you've been around less than 1 presidential election cycle. People get involved for different reasons, and for a lot of people that reason today is this year's primary. I'd created my first account in January 2004 as 'plainsight', never really got that involved because of time and motivation. I'm starting to get motivated now, even with attitudes like yours.

Oh, and regarding a reply. I've got a grip. I'm just pointing out the fact that a person re-posting some ridiculous story for about the 10th time in a day, might prove an example that not just Obama supporters can be exceptionally irritating.

[Debi]

50. Obviously being here for over two years didn't help you learn the rules

"Do not draw negative attention to the fact that someone is new, has a low post count, or recently became a member of Democratic Underground. Do not insinuate that because someone is new, they are a troll or disruptor."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html

What a classy way to welcome a newcomer. :eyes:

[cd3dem]

45. Someone said to me the other day Obama isn't such a great speaker.. he stutters!

take away the words and he is average... oops!!!!!

next thing we'll find out his Keynote speech wasn't original either...

[MadMaddie]

49. Can we suspend the English language because if we use

any words in the dictionary it will be considered plagiarism.!!!

[quantass]

51. MAN, THAT IS WEAK -- You're stretching OP.

[unblock]

52. every politician trying to position himself as an "outsider" uses this line!

:rofl:

[cooolandrew]

53. Obama did say this before Edwards campaign started I have folloewed him close. I think he was ...

saying it back in 04 actually if folks have clips to verify.

[boston bean]

54. The clip of Edwards is in 2003, it was his candidacy announcement.

The other is of Obamas candidacy announcement a few years later.

[Voice for Peace]

55. WRONG Both Edwards and Obama lifted it from me

I've been saying that exactly, frequently, since I moved to Washington in 1980.

[Nailzberg]

56. I hear the founding fathers wanted change, too.

Establishment v. change is a theme in just about every election.

[C_U_L8R]

57. A good artist borrows...

a great artist steals !
- Picasso

: - ))))

[ProSense]

58. Hillary plagiarized her campaign theme from Carol Mosley Braun

I'm in it to win it

[cottonseed]

60. There have been some recent developments.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4708718&mesg_id=4708718