Dumbya is now following the Obama Doctrine in Pakistan. Wingnuts remain silent.

[Kuni]

Remember when the crazies went bat shit insane over Obama saying the following about attacking in Pakistan:

“If they could not or would not do so, and we had actionable intelligence, then I would strike” - Obama

Funny there now, as that it appears that their heor Dumbya is now following the Obama Doctrine when it comes to striking inside Pakistan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/18/AR2008021802500.html
In the predawn hours of Jan. 29, a CIA Predator aircraft flew in a slow arc above the Pakistani town of Mir Ali. The drone's operator, relying on information secretly passed to the CIA by local informants, clicked a computer mouse and sent the first of two Hellfire missiles hurtling toward a cluster of mud-brick buildings a few miles from the town center.

The missiles killed Abu Laith al-Libi, a senior al-Qaeda commander and a man who had repeatedly eluded the CIA's dragnet. It was the first successful strike against al-Qaeda's core leadership in two years, and it involved, U.S. officials say, an unusual degree of autonomy by the CIA inside Pakistan.

Having requested the Pakistani government's official permission for such strikes on previous occasions, only to be put off or turned down, this time the U.S. spy agency did not seek approval. The government of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf was notified only as the operation was underway, according to the officials, who insisted on anonymity because of diplomatic sensitivities.

Officials say the incident was a model of how Washington often scores its rare victories these days in the fight against al-Qaeda inside Pakistan's national borders: It acts with assistance from well-paid sympathizers inside the country, but without getting the government's formal permission beforehand.

It is an approach that some U.S. officials say could be used more frequently this year, particularly if a power vacuum results from yesterday's election and associated political tumult. The administration also feels an increased sense of urgency about undermining al-Qaeda before President Bush leaves office, making it less hesitant, said one official familiar with the incident. . .

[bellasgrams]

1. And you think it's ok to bomb another country? How many

children lived in those brick/mud homes. Sure it's fine if BO says so if Hillary said it you'd be calling her all kinds of hateful names.

[Kuni]

2. What part of “actionable intelligence” did you gap on?

If they don’t want to get bombed; learn to not fly planes into our buildings.

[readmoreoften]

8. Holy Crap! The men who flew planes into our building are still alive? And in Pakistan?!

:eyes:

[Kuni]

12. At least one of the men who planned it, is suspected of living there.

[dkf]

3. And what is your solution?

We can't capture these people seeing as how we don't seem to be getting any permission to do so.

Do you care that Bin Laden and his crew are still out there?

[anigbrowl]

5. None apparently.

And yes, I'm OK with the occasional assassination of terrorists and paramilitaries if we have a good idea who we're shooting at.

[Levgreee]

4. You are completely incorrect... your mistake is here...

"this time the U.S. spy agency did not seek approval. The government of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf was notified only as the operation was underway, according to the officials, who insisted on anonymity because of diplomatic sensitivities."


Obama has stated he'd explicitly stated he'd ASK and inform the Pakistani government first, before striking at Al-Qaeda or other terrorist targets in Pakistan.

[anigbrowl]

6. No, you're the mistaken one

"Having requested the Pakistani government's official permission for such strikes on previous occasions, only to be put off or turned down..."

Maybe you should have used the whole quote instead of just the half that seemed to make your point.

I hope Obama brings this up in the debate tomorrow. When he said that 6 months ago I was sure he was the right guy to support, even though it meant sticking up for him over a lot of uninformed bullshit from idiots. And gee, look where we are today.

Maybe we should just title it as 'CIA endorses Obama'.

[Levgreee]

10. I was just reading what you bolded, that seemed to be what you thought pertinent

as to the rest of the quote, Obama hasn't claimed he'll stop asking at all, for future strikes, if he gets turned down several times.

So it is an assumption to claim this is the "Obama doctrine".

[Kuni]

13. You are quibbling over minutiae.

The point is that Obama was the one smart enough to propose we should go into Pakistan, with or without permission if we had actionable intelligence.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

7. I wouldn't brag about Bush using the same idea that your candidate had.

n/t

[readmoreoften]

9. Wait is his/her candidate Obama or Bush?

(pssst: I think it's Bush)

[Kuni]

15. Oh, so you too refer to your favorite candidates as Dumbya?

(Pssst. Don't ASSume you think anything coherent.)

[Kuni]

14. It was meant as a poke at the Wingnuts seeing how they howled when Obama first proposed his doctrine

[LadyVT]

11. Christ. And tonight Musharraf said he is STAYING in power, despite outcome of election

[Occam Bandage]

16. Since you're new, I'm going to give you a friendly pointer:

Do not under any circumstances ever word anything in such a way that implies that George Bush will has or will have any policy similarities to your candidate. Even if it's justified, and even if the adaptation of such policies is a recent development. People will gleefully say "lol so you're saying he is the next Bush!"

[Kuni]

17. How about if the person is not my candidate; say like Hillary and her support of torture?

Speaking to the New York Daily News editorial board on October 11, 2006 Hillary said she recognized that in some situations interrogations called for “severity.”