Obama outspent Hillary 4 to 1 in ads in Wisconsin?

[candice]

I am a Hillary supporter who would be an Obama supporter if he had shown the gumption to stick to something, although I moved to the American South as an outsider and watched evangelicals at tent meetings bringing in the flock and am thusly immune to cults in any form. I don't find Obama's speechifying very inspiring. the "Yes we can" chant seems like lame high school cheer leading to me.

Seems Obama was running for state leg while working at his first law firm, then when in the Illinois leg, running first for U.S. Congress (failed) and then Senator. After a year of being bored as a Senator, he started running for President.

Isn't the Presidency of the U.S. supposed to be the most demanding job in the world? What kind of person thinks one year in the Senate prepares them for this job?

Obama claims he has similar experience to JFK, Jr. (who had 14 years total in Congress and chaired important committees that he called, while Obama hasn't called one meeting of his committee according to what I've read).

Lincoln, another person Obama claims, which is to be expected of any person representing Illinois, had more than 30 years of relevant experience.

[mkultra]

1. well,

Both hillary and obama are one termers. He was a state and she wasnt. They have both been activists with obama doing much more pro-bono activist work(in my view).


I don't really think being married to one of the best presidents of our time gives her any experience being in charge. Im a manager and i can say first hand that watching from the sidelines doesn't give you much help.

[stahbrett]

2. What does your rambling message have to do with your subject line?

[I Vote In Pittsburgh]

22. Good question

:shrug:

[ObamaFan]

26. Yeah...good question...

ha ha

[casus belli]

53. Bait and switch.

No way I'd have poked my head in here to see what was going on if I had known it was just another "I won't be taken in by fancy words" rant.

[anigbrowl]

3. He was in the Ohio legislature, eh? Shows how much you know.

Better luck next time.

[mkultra]

4. btw, the kool aid bit is pretty insulting

It imply thoughtlessness on the part of his constituents. The main two issues that draw me to Obama are the war and his pledge to not take any lobbyist money.

[FlyingSquirrel]

5. I personally am in it for the Kool-Aid.

It's yummy.

[Yael]

10. Really?

For me, it was all about the hooded robe.

[mkultra]

32. shut up man.

They warned you about secrets. Dont say a damn thing about the sex.

[johnnydrama]

49. dude

the first rule of Obama club is that you DON'T talk about Obama club

[Matteon]

52. Sex?

Tell me more....

[mkultra]

56. sorry man

no sex. move along

[LadyVT]

6. Yep. You can't argue with the infatuated, though.

[mkultra]

35. or the ignorant

[rodeodance]

44. those who are ignorant can learn--when infatuated one lives in bubble-no knowledge enters

[JimGinPA]

7. Candice, Are You That Beauty Contestant From South Carolina?

Because your map reading is all messed up.

:rofl:

[LadyVT]

8. So gracious of you.

[JimGinPA]

17. Well,

First she confused Ohio for Wisconsin in the OP title and then elected Obama to the Ohio senate somehow.

Besides, I've seen several of your posts and you have more nerve than a toothache slamming someone else for "graciousness".

[mkultra]

36. wow

i think i just heard that German guy say "ohhh schnap!"

[jgraz]

55. Barack is running for president of U.S. Americans!

Such as... South Africa.

[Raine]

9. TERRIFIC! I'm so glad he has all that money

to spend on lots of ads! :D

[anamandujano]

11. He must be doing it in Texas also. I hear his lame @ss TV spots

from the other room almost every commercial break.

I guess if Americans are that easily brainwashed, we deserve to be screwed again and again.

[ObamaFan]

27. Bitter Bitter Bitter...tsk tsk tsk

[VotesForWomen]

33. correct; we are getting what we deserve. again. nt

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

12. Hillary could use the "Al-Qaida Is Watching" threat again

Since Hillary would need a land slide in Texas AND Ohio to make a come back,
she should try her "Al-Qaida Is Watching" threat to voters again.
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Al_Qaeda_watching_US_election_Clint_01072008.html

She did this before the New Hampshire election, oh and she also cried in public.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/india_knight/article3177698.ece

Better use both of those tactics, just to be sure.

[cooolandrew]

13. He could talk straight policy and have half empty rallies. Inspiring americans to vote can only ....

can only help improve democracy. The new voters will take notice if corrupt politians are rising to power and put a stop to it. The increased voters alone, are good for America, they will have to acknowledge them. If we discourage new voters out of it we are back to square one.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

23. good point. he brings in more voters, instead of cynically aiming at "big states"

he wants to serve all 50 states.

[JVS]

14. You better get on board because Clinton's down for the count

[candice]

15. Illinois! (All of those Midwestern states run together in my mind, sorry)

[last1standing]

31. And all you trolls posting bullshit run together in my mind. (not so sorry).

Why don't you try to insult more people while you're here? You've only covered the midwest so far. Why not try for the south and northeast now? :mad:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

16. He's been outspending her vastly everywhere.....

n/t

[Levgreee]

18. What was Abe's 30 years of relevant experience?

Not doubting you, but would just appreciate the history lesson.

[TheDoorbellRang]

30. You should doubt her. Abe had 10 years in political office before his presidency

and only two of those years were in D.C.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

19. Clinton Ended January With $7.6M In Debt (she didn't have $ to spend)

Clinton Ended January With $7.6M In Debt
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8613.html

[jackson_dem]

20. Supposedly 2:1 so far in Ohio

[Eric J in MN]

21. Firstly, Obama didn't serve in the Ohio legislature.

Secondly, President Kennedy was JFK. His son, who didn't hold office, was JFK, Jr.

[Milo_Bloom]

24. He didn't vote for the war. Nuff said. (nt)

[VotesForWomen]

34. so how did obama vote on IWR? oh that's right, he wasn't in the senate at the time, so you can

project whatever vote you want on to him. just the way he likes it.

[mkultra]

37. but guess what

somebody else was and guess how she voted.

[Milo_Bloom]

40. He didn't vote for the war. Nuff said. (nt)

[rodeodance]

43. HA----a NON-existant "vote"---enough said!!

[Milo_Bloom]

46. Exactly, he didn't vote for the war.. which is all that really matters.

[rodeodance]

50. He is decieving the public. ---that s what matters.

[Milo_Bloom]

51. Not in the least.

[rodeodance]

39. your whole premise for claiming that is based on a NON-existant vote. YOU LOST>

[Milo_Bloom]

41. She voted for the war, nuff said (nt)

[rodeodance]

42. she voted to give the Pres authorization to use force. GET IT RIGHT BEFORE SPOUNTING OFF!!

[Milo_Bloom]

47. She voted for a war resolution. Please read the resolution before looking foolish.

[rodeodance]

48. I am not follish. You should re-read it.

[Milo_Bloom]

54. I have, many times.

It is a war memo on its face. Try reading it.

It declares Iraq a threat to the US and then authorizes bush to deal with the threat with absolutlely no pre-requisites.


It is the equivalent of

The Sky is Blue

If the Sky is Blue Jimmy will go outside.

Jimmy went outside.


Now some dishonest candidates react as if they didn't tell Jimmy to go outside.

And because of that, these candidates will not win.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

25. Yes he can, yes he did

:applause:

[TheDoorbellRang]

28. Better bone up on your Lincoln history

Lincoln served 8 years as a rep in Illinois and 2 years -- that's TWO YEARS -- in D.C. as a rep from Illinois. Total 10 years political experience. He hadn't been in political office for 10 years when he decided to run for president.

Then there's our two candidates:

Obama's served 8 years in the Illinois senate and will have served 4 years in the United States Senate by the end of this year. Let's say 11+ years as an elected politician.

Hillary will have served 8 years in the United States Senate by the end of this year. So let's say for her 7+ years.

I am so amused by her "I've got the experience" claim. Try putting your spouse's creds on your resume sometime and see how far that gets you.

[madrchsod]

29. Lincoln did not have 30 years of experience before his election

how many years of elected office has hillary had?

[mkultra]

38. depends on who you count them

take the end year and subtract the start year then multiply by seven

[lligrd]

45. Guess You Better Donate Up Then

Cause Clinton really seems to need some cash. Shouldn't you be out fund-raising or something?