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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:09 AM
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How soon we forget.
How soone we forget that Bill Clinton along with his bright wife was the 'Change"
we were looking for in the 90's. And they did a pretty good job of making the government work for people through his reconstructed FEMA. desesigned Social Security Administration, and family-friendly work place. How soon we forget that he faced off the GOP and passed tax cuts for the middle class while raising them on the wealthy and it did not cause the economy to die as the RW predicted. His administration did it WITHOUT a single vote from the Republicans with Al Gore casting the single vote needed. How soon we forget that Bill made us proud as he traveled the world hot spots and helped bring opposition sides to the table in Ireland, Israel, and the move to stop the genocide of millions of Muslims in Serbia. Yeah, he blew it on Rwanda and has admitted it. While we give Kerry and Edwards and others accoladge for admitting they were wrong about Iraq, Bill get no credit for stepping up to the plate and admitting his mistake concerning Rwanda although he says that was his biggest regret of his two terms. How soon we forget that he at least tried to get a ME peace deal with Israel and Palestinians and was highly praised by the late King of Jordan for his fearless efforts. How soon we for get how the world admired his courage in the face of his sex scandal (which most Europeans and others thought should have remained a private matter between him and his wife.). How soon we forget the pain and suffering that Hillary must have undergone as RW and some Dem Hillary haters dissed a young Chelsea, ridiculed Hillary as being the cause of Bills marriage violations, talked about her own looks and "robo hips" and how a really meaningless statement about choosing to go to college and get a law degree instead of staying home and baking cookies and holding teas was turned into a major slander against stay-at-home moms by the media. How soon we forget that the Clintons were relatively poor coming into the WH and they were hated by the Dem insiders for having been able to win twice against all odds. How soon we forget that 9/11 ripped the heart out of NY and NYC and that the Bush administration had lied to us all and had well over 70% of the people ready to fight anyone that just looked evil to us. How soon we forget that Dems were called soft on terrorism and Islamic lovers and how that allowed GWB to walk into othe WH for a second term. How soon we forget that the Clintons, unashamedly championed causes of African Americans and were not afraid to embrace them publicaly and to befriend them privately. How soon we forget that Clinton was the first President to have a cabinet that looked like America by appointing blacks, women, and handicapped and gays to the highest levels of his administration. WTF is wrong with you people that you would allow the media to define, label, and smear them the way they do? WTF is wrong with America that men who have laid their lives on the line for this coutry--John Kerry, Max Cleland, and now John McCain --can become targets of smear campaigns by their opponents and opportunists and disqualify them from Presidency. If this had been the case in 1960, JFK would never have been elected to office. I am not a fan of John McCain, but this latest shit is more of the same that knocks off real patriots from serving their country. What is wrong with America?
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:18 AM
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1. "How soon we forget" = Plagiarism
This line has been used before. Yahoo shows 333,000 hits. But I didn't point it out to you. The MSM is finally starting to dig into your writing to parse for intellectual vacuous statements and meaningless sound bites. Maybe it's your lack of experience. Or maybe you're just good with words but aren't packing any substance.

I am of course, pulling your chain. But there is a point. Why on earth would I want to defend Hillary at the moment when she is pulling out the cheap shots on members of her own party? If I'm expected to commit to some party loyalty, I expect to see some from the recipient of said loyalty.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:28 PM
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4. "Cheap shots" are your words, not mine. I don't believe they are cheap shots.
I believe she is fighting back just as Obama fights back with what could also be called "cheap shots."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:55 PM
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10. Except Obama didn't spend the last 15 years protecting BushInc the way Clintons did.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html


Plus...you want to see what a REAL cheap shot looks like?

Look what Clintons' man Carville did to Ohio Dem voters and our last nominee:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


And check out how Hillary JOINED Bush and McCain on their lie against Kerry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:32 PM
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7. Because she's a DEMOCRAT.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:27 AM
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2. I didn't forget NAFTA, "reforming" the welfare system that ended up hurting my sister recently....
or the vote for the Iraq War, or the vote on the Iran Resolution, or the vote in favor of the Patriot Act.

I have not forgotten. That's why I'm not voting for the Clintons.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:26 PM
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3. Actually, there are testimonies from others who were helped. nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:31 PM
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6. Does it bother you that Obama just voted to expand Nafta?
google Peru Trade Deal.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:00 PM
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13. It doesn't matter,,
if he wins the presidency, they will beat up on him just like they are doing to Hillary now...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:31 PM
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5. YOU forget that we expected BushInc to be fully exposed in the 90s, not PROTECTED by Bill
when a few brave lawmakers had BushInc cornered and at its most vulnerable by Jan 1993.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

How the hell do you THINK a Bush2 was even possible? Or how the burying of all those outstanding criminal matters for Poppy Bush LED DIRECTLY to 9-11.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:33 PM
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8. Who said anything about forgetting it?
Me- I'm remembering the war in Iraq. The one going on right now.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:54 PM
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11. I don't forget one bit of protection Bill gave Bush and his cronies throughout the 90s


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Gee - we wouldn't have been 'blessed' with Bush2 if it hadn't been for Bill's genrosity towards Poppy Bush and his cronies for all those years.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:38 PM
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9. Wow, that's hard to read!
Ah, nostalgia! Right now, I'm not feeling it.


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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:56 PM
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12. Paragraphs....emphasis on the "s"
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