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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:16 PM
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Interesting connection
John McCain's top political strategist is Charlie Black. Charlie Black is Chairman of BKSH & Associates. BKSH is a division of Burson-Marsteller. Burson-Marsteller is owned by Hillary Clinton's top political strategist, Mark Penn.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:17 PM
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1. !
Small world, ain't it?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:21 PM
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3. very small
indeed
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:18 PM
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2. hmmmmmmmmm
Is this why they've been double teaming Obama the past couple of weeks?
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:26 PM
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4. I still remember Charlie Black spinning for Bush Sr. He's too slick for me.
Lying piece of crap.

I think Mary Matalin started out working for him.

Bush -> Black and Matalin

Matalin -> Carville

Carville and Penn -> Clintons

The Bushes and Clintons travel with a small circle of friends.

:puke:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:27 PM
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5. This is so wierd
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 01:28 PM by blogslut
I got an error message when I tried to post this topic. I back-clicked and tried to re-post and got a different error message. The topic still shows on GD-P but when I look in My DU, there's no "You started this thread" link.

odd. must be a glitchy day. :)

EDIT ADD: I spell bad ;)
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:55 PM
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6. I am not surprised ...
the fact that someone is not dropping out of the race doesn't surprise me either. I am afraid we are in for a rough ride... Shame our Democratic Congress didn't get rid of the vote eating machines, too... anyone else ever wonder why they didn't?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:01 PM
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7. Oy!
The voting machine problem.

We as Democratic voters need to overwhelm the polls. Our numbers must beat their cheating machines.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:18 PM
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8. Do you have links on this btw? nt
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:55 PM
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9. Links
http://www.burson-marsteller.com/About_Us/Global_Leadership/Pages/default.aspx
Global Leadership
Worldwide President & CEO: Mark J. Penn

Founding Chairman: Harold Burson

Chief Operating Officer: Richard C. Powell, Jr.

Chief Financial Officer, Worldwide: Pat Przybyski

Executive Vice President, Worldwide: Josh Gottheimer

Vice Chairman: Donald A. Baer

Chairman, Asia Pacific & Vice Chairman Global Development: Bill Rylance

Managing Director, Human Resources, Worldwide: Celia Berk



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President & CEO, U.S.: Patrick Ford
President & CEO, Asia Pacific: Simon Pangrazio

President & CEO, EMEA: Jeremy Galbraith

President & CEO, Latin America: Santiago Hinojosa




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chair, Global Technology Practice: Jennifer Graham
Chief Digital Strategist: Erin Byrne

http://www.burson-marsteller.com/Integrated_solutions/Pages/BKSH.aspx

BKSH
BKSH & Associates Worldwide provides the Burson-Marsteller family with elite government consulting, public affairs, and strategic lobbying capabilities. The firm's professionals design and execute government strategies on the federal and state levels, which affect public policy and enhance business development and practices around the world.

The firm uses a bipartisan approach, led by Charlie Black, one of the country's leading Republican political strategists and Scott Pastrick, a senior Democratic strategist, former Treasury Department official, and former Treasurer of the Democratic National Committee. BKSH team members have managed "front-page" issues and have worked quietly on behind-the-scenes projects for clients including Fortune 100 companies, multinationals, trade and industry associations, foreign governments, state governments, and municipalities.

Through integrated efforts with Burson-Marsteller; Marsteller; PSB; and DI, BKSH is able to meet specific government relations needs for its clients, including public affairs counsel from the local to federal level, strategic campaign leadership, and widespread, long-term relationships with political decision-makers.

http://www.burson-marsteller.com/About_Us/Global_Leadership/Lists/GlobalLeadership/DispForm.aspx?ID=1&nodeName=Global%20Leadership&SubTitle=Mark%20J.%20Penn

Global Leadership

Mark J. Penn, Worldwide President & CEO

Office: New York
Phone: 212-614-4446
Fax: 212-598-5679
Email address: markjpenn@bm.com




Mark Penn is worldwide CEO of Burson-Marsteller and President of Penn, Schoen and Berland. As CEO of Burson-Marsteller, Mark oversees a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world. As President of PSB, a position he has held since 1975 when he was an undergraduate at Harvard, Mark focuses on providing research-based communications strategy to political figures, corporations and crisis situations.

Mark has been called "Master of the Message" by Time Magazine; "The king of polls" by the London Times; and an "incandescent intellect" by the New York Times. On his wall are notes saying "you were brilliant" from Tony Blair after his historic third win and "thanks" from Bill Clinton after his impeachment acquittal along with photos of Mark working with CEOs including Bill Gates and Bill Ford, Jr. The Washington Post, in "Politics and Policy by the Numbers" summed up his influence in the White House and the corporate boardroom as a "unique vantage point: adviser to the preeminent innovator of the past decade in the realm of politics, Bill Clinton, and the preeminent innovator in the realm of business and technology, Bill Gates."

The techniques applied to these political and corporate battles were honed from early major corporate experiences with AT&T, Texaco and others. In "The Guru of Small Things" the New York Times explains how he has combined innovative techniques of micro-targeting, issue-based messaging and visual message testing to win major corporate, marketing and political battles.

Today, Mark serves as strategic consultant to several Fortune 500 companies and CEOs on a wide range of image, branding and corporate reputation issues. His client relationships include Ford Motor Company, Merck, Verizon, BP, McDonald's and Microsoft. He has been a key adviser to Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer since 1998, helping Microsoft affect a complete corporate turnaround from anti-trust scandal to Most Trusted Company (Wall Street Journal).

In 2007, Mark published a ground-breaking book, Microtrends: The Small Forces Behind Tomorrow's Big Changes that has been compared to The Tipping Point by Kirkus Reviews and has received praise from President Bill Clinton and Bill Gates.

Mark has helped to elect over 25 leaders in the United States, Asia, Latin America and Europe. Most recently, he served as advisor to Prime Minister Tony Blair, helping achieve an unprecedented third term win for the Labour party in the United Kingdom. He is also well known for serving as President Clinton's pollster and political adviser for the 1996 re-election campaign and throughout the second term of the administration. Currently, Mark serves as a key strategic advisor to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. He has worked with Mrs. Clinton for over six years, since he ran the polling and messaging for her successful election to the US Senate in 2000.

Mark won the Pollster of the Year award, given every 4 years, in both 1996 and 2000, the top honor in his profession, from the American Association of Political Consultants. Mark has written for publications including the New York Times and the Washington Post, and has appeared frequently on networks including CNN and Fox News.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:38 PM
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10. Thanks
Just installed Kubuntu on this laptop and I've been installing packages. Had to close my browser. Here's more verification from a DKos diarist:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/16/52021/3072

The numbers don't lie: Barack Obama will beat John McBush
by JedReport
Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 03:44:11 AM PST

Have you noticed that John McBush has attacked Obama three separate times this week alone?

It would be tempting to say it was a conspiracy led by Mark Penn, Hillary Clinton's top adviser. After all, Penn is CEO of Burson-Marsteller, Burson owns a lobbying firm called BKSH, the chairman of BKSH Charlie Black, and Black is a top strategist for John McCain...


Naturally, the diarist has all this stuff linked in the diary. I am too lazy to remember how link words in UBB code. :)
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:40 PM
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11. This is why I love DU. I always learn something new.
That is very interesting information, indeed. I'm not sure exact in which way yet.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 03:43 PM
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12. Wow - so McCain's strategist more-or-less works for Penn?
That's funny - imagine Penn just strolling down the hall one day and firing him.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:14 AM
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13. kick nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:32 PM
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14. oh my...
a new twist on he said/she said?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:34 PM
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15. I'm sure Kevin Bacon is in that chain somewhere
:rofl:
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