What Hillary needs to do in the Debate

[AGirl]

Hillary needs to stand proud and strong that she is a partisan democrat. She is not going to compromise on core values that define the Democratic Party. She needs to say that after 8 years of Bush, the country needs a fighter who will stand up for the values liberals believe in, not to hold hands with the republicans although she is willing to work with them. She needs to say she has been consistent on core issues for the past 35 years and she will tell the America that the she have faith she will make a come back just as she have faith that the democrats will make a come back in 2008 because the democrats will be the boss come the general election and the independents and the republicans will not be able to have democrats to kick around anymore!

[northernsoul]

1. It would've been even better if she would've done that in 2002

when she gave B*sh a blank check to invade Iraq and piss away thousands of American lives and close to a trillion dollars.

[AGirl]

2. I am talking about domestic issues.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. So then she should avoid foriegn policy?

I agree.

but the bankruptcy bill is domestic policy, so...

[AGirl]

6. well i said core values..not on every bill so...

[northernsoul]

8. Not cluster-bombing civilians is one of my core values

Apparently not so much for Senator Clinton.

[AGirl]

12. thats not why she is losing..

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. You also brought up consistency.

Maybe Clinton can just avoid both foriegn and domestic policy, and get by with her charming character.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. But then how would she explain the IWR?

She's kind of painted herself into a corner.

[AGirl]

5. umm she doesn't need to. That's done. If the voters can't forgive her for that

or at least forget about that, than's theres nothing she can do about it.

[Hieronymus]

10. No, it's not done ... but we get your rationalizations.

[AGirl]

11. well she clearly wont win in DU lol. but yeah..

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. Or the primaries.

:shrug:

[northernsoul]

14. My brother gets to go back there in a few months, so it's not even close to "done" for me

I could forgive her if she would just have the courage to admit she was wrong, but no way in hell am I ever going to forget.

[nels25]

27. So does my God son

third time for him.

Both his dad and me want him to come home ALIVE!!!:grr:

[greguganus]

22. How is it done? We are still in Iraq.

:shrug:

[LadyVT]

7. YES WE CAN! START A WAR WITH PAK-I-STAN!

She needs to point out the differences between her position on launching military strikes in countries which do not authorize us to do so, and Obama's.

[thereismore]

13. And how will it set her apart from BO? She has nowhere to go but attack. nt

[Sadie5]

16. And, you are saying

that BO never attacks? But I guess BO gets a pass on anything and everything. Remember Hillary's Rezko comment. As I remember, and there is proof on video, BO lashed out at hillary in a childish way about walmart. Hillary then came back at BO about his stint with the slumlord Rezko. no one seems to remember that BO attacked first, and got what was coming to him.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Obama only responds to attacks.

Clinton tried to go negative and she got burned for it.

Like you said, the proof is on video. Go ahead and watch it again with the audio on, so you can tell who the crowd is cheering, and who the crowd is booing.

[Sadie5]

25. So you say

But the truth is that they were a bit snarky with each other and out of nowhere BO attacks Hillary with the walmart remark. I saw the shock on his face, and the moment of silence as BO fished around for some response as he did not expect the fast comeback from Hillary. So...you go back and watch the video again and you should see your mistake. Bo followers seem to be blind at times, among other things.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Out of no where?

No, that was a response to the Reagan attack.

Maybe you should watch it again.

[bunnies]

17. She needs to explain why she's ok with her surrogates attacking Obama supporters.

Oh and... the DLC hates "liberals" fyi. You'll never hear her claim to stand up for them or their values.

[LadyVT]

33. He needs to explain why he's ok with his surrogates attacking Clinton's supporters

[goodgd_yall]

18. I think it might be good to emphasize her strong

Democratic values, as you noted.

[AGirl]

29. she should! thanks for agreeing.

[JimGinPA]

20. What Hillary needs to do in the Debate

Is announce she is dropping out of the race and she fully supports Obama for President.

[greguganus]

21. She also needs to keep that smirk off her face. n/t

[mohc]

23. Debates are just words...

And we all know words do not mean anything, so this debate means nothing.

Seriously though, Clinton is going to be at a serious disadvantage because who wins and loses a debate is purely based on perception, and that perception is largely framed by the media's coverage of the debate. The media likes to frame things based on the current narrative unless there is some kind of game changing event. Currently the narrative is that Clinton is running out of money, support, and time. The campaign to this point has lead her to where she is now, if Clinton continues the themes of her campaign in the debate, it will not change anything. The arguments you make may very well be rational and reasonable, but the electorate has so far rejected them, and they are doubtful to accept them now. Clinton needs to fundamentally reframe her message so that she begins to appeal to more voters. Only then can she effectively go on the attack against Obama. As to what fundamental reframing would work, I haven't a clue.

[GoldieAZ49]

24. LOL, yeah should say exactly that

you should email it to her, NYT says they cannot decide which way to go tonight...this could be just the right message.

[whatchamacallit]

26. Concede defeat?

:evilgrin:

[CK_John]

30. I hope she brings up the Bloomberg connection. n/t

[taterguy]

31. Tell Obama that he's no Jack Kennedy

But I guess plagiarizing Lloyd Bentson might not go over so well

[AX10]

32. But it's true.

Obama is no Jack Kennedy.

[taterguy]

34. Hell, even Jack Kennedy wasn't Jack Kennedy

It's true that no one will live up to the mythological status of JFK.

Tell us something that we don't know.

[AX10]

36. LBJ got alot of things done for JFK.

Also, Jack's father had the connections to get him into the Whitehouse.
As you said, the mythology surrounding JFK is quite powerful.

[sfam]

35. The McCain-NY Times story has rendered this debate irrelevant...

Barring an insane gaff, nobody other than hard-core political junkies like us will care. The McCain story has pretty much shoved everything off the MSM radar for the next few days.

So really, Hillary doesn't need to do anything in the debate, 'cause it won't matter. If Barack gaffs horribly on his own, he will be giving her a gift, but barring that, this debate has been rendered OBE.