HRC: Pull that "Night-shift" commercial where you're wearing an $800 tailored suit

[hisownpetard]

and a necklace, your hair perfectly coiffed, not a hair out of place or a wrinkle anywhere...
That's not how real people look.

You wanna be believable?
Go buy a pair of pull-on knit pants and a cotton blouse at Sears.
Drop twenty dollars on a pair of sensible shoes at PayLess, 'cause your feet hurt from standing all day.
Run your fingers through your hair a couple dozen times, like you're trying to figure out how to pay three different bills
with the same hundred dollars.
Rub your sockets five, six times, so your perfectly applied eyeliner smudges into dark circles beneath your tired eyes.
Take your glasses off and pinch the bridge of your nose -
and then let the camera lens click.

Nigh-shift? Yeah. She knows what she's talking about...

[SteppingRazor]

1. And if she does all that, she'll be criticized for looking like shit. n/t

[mckeown1128]

8. Then maybe she shouldn't be pretending to be anything like..

night shift working poor americans. If she doesn't fit the part then she should stop making the argument.

[rodeodance]

14. YOU are spouting off once again with stupid comments. search and see what

you find on DU about her shift work.


go find it. -

[hisownpetard]

72. "Once again?" When was the other time?

[hisownpetard]

15. That's exactly it.

Nothing wrong with being who she is, dressing as she dresses, etc.
But please don't show that after showing a nurse or nurse's aid and a waitress pouring coffee in an all-night diner
unless you want me to believe that you're presenting a series of images that have something in common.

[K Gardner]

18. Thank you. From a nurse. Mostly, we're just amused that HRC would even

dare associate herself with a nightshift worker. I'd truly like to see her walk ONE NIGHT in my shoes.

[durrrty libby]

38. "we're just amused" Don't you dare speak for me and my

colleagues.

[hisownpetard]

40. These rabid responses are truly ridiculous. I can hardly believe the intensity.

[durrrty libby]

47. It is especially digusting when a female is complicit with the nasty

sexism. I would so love to knock sense into the ignorant losers

[hisownpetard]

Hey - I never knew you had a sense of humor! Hahahahahaaaa.

[durrrty libby]

74. Not knowing much seems to be your specialty

[hisownpetard]

76. Not knowing much is better than not knowing anything, which is where I think you're coming from.

[durrrty libby]

81. Enjoy the shit pile you created.

Or as they say....being hoisted by your own petard....heh

[hisownpetard]

82. Your approval is something I really care about.

[hisownpetard]

64. Hilarious!

[mckeown1128]

89. sexism??? Where is the sexism here?

I know Clinton supporters like to shout sexism anytime someone dare critisize her... but I have looked throught the last few posts and can't seem to find anything that could even be spun into being a sexist comment. ???

[K Gardner]

45. I'm speaking for MY colleagues. Get a freakin grip, dirty.

[Skittles]

99. THANK YOU nt

[Orangepeel]

2. kind of silly.

people who work the late shift have to wear pull on knit pants?

[dmallind]

So well off people don't work long hours?

Man whenever I drive by my place of work at night or leave late myself it's always the nice cars that are left in the parking lot after "quitting time".

[ORDem]

7. Still not the point.

The ad is not showing those people, it's showing folks who have to, say, work the graveyard at Burger King, compared to the lady at the nice, quiet desk lit by a $200 lamp, wearing pearls.

[hisownpetard]

12. Thank you.

[Lerkfish]

3. I have no problem with a candidate dressing well

I don't think that's a valid criticism.

[ORDem]

6. That's not the criticism.

It's that she's trying to compare her "night shift" work to those of real blue-collar night shift workers while in an obviously luxurious office with fancy clothes. My god if you can't see the irony there then you need to step back from the HRC kool-aid pitcher.

[zabet]

13. This blue collar worker

worked 12 hour night shifts
and still had to look good
for management meetings of
a morning. Even if it involved
showering and changing after
working on equipment all night.
It is not beyond the realm of
reason.

[dmallind]

16. You seem to be mising the point of these rebuttals though

There isn't "real work" and "office work". Both are work. Both take time, and effort. The work she is campaigning for is not lifting forgings all day but work nonetheless, and it takes any candidate lots of work to get there. This silly distinction between "real work" and white collar work is massively outdated and was always wrong even when it was in vogue.

[goodgd_yall]

39. Right on n/t

[Lerkfish]

75. If you think *I'm* an HRC supporter, you're not paying enough attention.

I'm just saying I think there is loads of stuff to criticize her for, and I don't think this vein will produce much paydirt.

Just because the Clinton campaign is petty doesn't mean you have to jump down there with them.

[LSdemocrat]

4. Yeah, because Dubya is real believable because he plays dress-up cowboy on his ranch

[demo dutch]

5. Please, a STUPID remark!! She would be criticized for looking dumpy and un-presidential!

[rodeodance]

9. That all you got--more slime?? Shame on you.

[hisownpetard]

23. Slime? Hardly. Not my style. Please read #15.

[rodeodance]

51. I consider your OP an attempt to diss Hillary Clinton. simple as that.

[hisownpetard]

63. I've never dissed Hillary in any post, nor did I intend to do so in this one.

It was merely what I thought was a pretty bland critique of a commercial I saw this afternoon.

Go figger.

[durrrty libby]

86. Disgusting isn't it. These people are beyond pathetic

[zabet]

10. Originality?

Like Obama recycling campaigns and
Michelle trying to copy Jackie O.'s
look? Can't they come up with any
thing original? Not everybody is
buying the 'knock-off versions' of
the originals.

[ORDem]

11. And one more for the record...

I think she should run that ad as many times as possible, because it shows how out of touch she really is. Maybe it gets some credit for Obama's slicing into her under $50K base so strongly in WI.

[hisownpetard]

22. Spot on!

[Beausoir]

17. Bottom of the barrel post.

[golddigger]

19. Yeah and Obama gets his suits at Goodwill...

:silly:

[hisownpetard]

21. Please read post #15.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. so we are not allowed to sympathize or empathize with people less fortunate than us?

[hisownpetard]

30. Not what I was saying at all. If the commercial were to stay exactly as it is, but

the scene with Hillary at her desk were not in it, I think she would've gotten her point across just fine.

[goodgd_yall]

46. A person sitting at her desk and talking about the night shift

looks pretty reasonable to me. You need to get over your own stereotypes.

[MyNameGoesHere]

53. Please read post #15? Now THAT is an Obama supporter

for real. "I will have other people take care of that for me"

[hisownpetard]

58. Duh - I wrote the other post that I referred you to, as well.

[SammyWinstonJack]

94. ...

:spray:

[maddiejoan]

20. Twenty Dollars at Payless?

For one pair of shoes?

Wow. Out of touch much?

I can walk out of Payless with 2 pairs of shoes and still get back change from a twenty.

yeah. you know what you're talking about.

[hisownpetard]

24. I guess you pay less at your PayLess than I pay at mine.

[maddiejoan]

27. I guess you ignore

Buy one pair get another for half the price.

either that or you're full of shit and have never even set foot in a Payless.

[hisownpetard]

32. Unfortunately, I have the shoes to prove it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. and obama is working class poor w.bad clothes? this is a stupid argument

if ever there was one

[Hieronymus]

28. I'll bet Hillary's suits cost more than $800. That, along ...

with her traveling hair and makeup person, costs her many $thousands. Forget about Edwards having spent $400. for a barber to leave his clients and travel to cut his hair .. a fair wage

[Bake]

70. And where does BHO get his suits?

I wear $800 suits, and they're NOT Hart Schaffner & Marx or Brooks Brothers. They're off the rack at Dillards.

God, how can Obamites be so freakin' myopic?

Bake

[Hieronymus]

77. Thanks, for making my point.

[PresidentObama]

29. Wow, what a stupid OP. She can look like Britney Spears, and still understand our frustration.

And want to help those in the middle class, and those struggling to get ahead.

Criticism of her looks is idiotic, and suggesting she doesn't understand what we go through--give me a break!!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

31. this is stupider considering the fact that liberals in general worship the kennedy's who have been

wealthy for generations now.

to tell me that ted kennedy doesnt sympathize with the poor because he has always been wealthy is idiotic. similarly for clinton.

[hisownpetard]

34. OMG, how in the world do you get that, from the OP? I'm not criticizing her looks, her wealth or

her choice of decor. I simply said that it looks a bit out of place to see that picture of her
after the ones that preceded it.

The Kennedys have devoted their lives to working for people who are less fortunate, financially -
but they don't try to present themselves as anything other than what and who they are. That's
why I said, upthread, that the commercial would be fine as is, if she just removed the picture
of herself.

Is this so hard to understand?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

48. "Nigh-shift? Yeah. She knows what she's talking about..."

sounds to me you are saying she has no idea what a night shift can be about. and therein lies my objection.

[hisownpetard]

52. Hey - the woman words very hard, which is evident if you only listen to her for 5 minutes.

She can answer any question from five different angles, back and forth and sideways.
I have tremendous admiration for her intelligence and diligence.

Why everyone has jumped on this like it was a thing of monstrous ill-will
is totally beyond me.

I was critiquing an ad that I saw, which I thought would be better without the picture of her in it.

Even people who I would've thought would know me by now have reacted to this OP like it was posted by
a mean-spirited troll, which I am not.

Oh, well...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

55. i didnt call you a mean spirited troll. i find your critique to be without any substance

that is all.

[hisownpetard]

56. Imagine if you had said just that. Would've been nice, ya know?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

57. at no point have i called you a mean spirited troll or implied you were trolling

i was merely criticizing your argument

just because i like you doesnt mean i dont get to criticize your argument

[hisownpetard]

59. Got it.

[hisownpetard]

33. Criticism of her looks? C'mon, get a grip. I think she looks just great! In fact,

I think she looks better than at any other time in her life.

Please read #15.

[SammyWinstonJack]

95. The same was done too Edwards. He couldn't possibly be for the working class, or the poor.

He had to be a fake, phony. $400 haircuts and a multi million dollar home and huge profits from hedge fund investments. Now Hillary.....:eyes:

[durrrty libby]

35. Some people work nights and we take pride in our appearance

Obviously you enjoy rolling around in your own shit

Don't project your idiocy on others wanker

[goodgd_yall]

37. You tell 'em. n/t

[durrrty libby]

41. These assholes are nasty ignorant loser misogynists. I loathe them

[TomInTib]

49. hisownpetard? Misogynist?

Dream on...

I care nothing about either of the candidates, I will simply vote for whoever is left standing.

But I thought that "Night Shift" deal was a cheap, shallow stunt by HRC.

[hisownpetard]

79. I've never seen a post of yours that wasn't nasty, and this is no exception.

You seem to be really good at unwarranted and unnecessary attacks.

Keep the faith.

[goodgd_yall]

36. Insulting----like low income people can't dress well

I'll have you know, I have a few friends who really know how to put together a thrift shop/secondhand wardrobe together. And they wouldn't walk around with smudged makeup either. Being working poor doesn't mean you look like shit all the time.

[juajen]

42. Why does everybody buy into the story that the Clintons were

ALWAYS well off? They did not even have a home when they moved into the White House. They spent vacations at other people's homes, such as Martha's Vineyard and their good friends from California (their names evade me at the moment). They also spent a lot of time at Camp David.

They had a rental home in Arkansas before he became Governor. They actually left the Governor's mansion for the White House, IIRC.

They have a lot of money now, from best selling books, speaking engagements and investments from same. All Presidents make money when they leave the White House, especially if they were notable Presidents. Also, remember that when he was President, the salary was half what it is today, I believe it was $200,000. That seems paltry, doesn't it, for the most powerful man in the world.

In her youth, Hillary received scholarships to Wellesley and Yale, and had to supplement them with work during the summer. One time she even worked in a fish cannery in Alaska. Her parents were not well off, though you certainly wouldn't say she was raised in poverty. She knows how to work and has done extensive amounts of it. Also, in case you have never worked at a law firm, female lawyers work twice as hard as male, are usually paid less, and have a hell of a time making partner.

I reiterate, if you have not read her autobiography, now might be a good time. It was a best selling book all over the world, where the Clintons are still held in the highest esteem. Not that you'd know it by the way they are being treated on DU and other liberal blogs this election season. Shameful!

[Beacool]

43. I don't recall FDR, JFK, Gore, Kerry, Edwards

and countless other wealthy people who empathized with the working class as having to dress at Walmart and Payless to have their point come across.

Why this incessant virulence against Hillary???? She does not need to prove to ANYONE that she cares about working people. Her very long record of support for women, children and minorities are proof enough for me.

This board is becoming more depressing by the day.........

[La Lioness Priyanka]

50. no shit. apparantly the millionaire men can rise above their wealth, the millionaire woman is

ofcourse incapable of this

[hisownpetard]

60. By the minute, if you ask me.

[stahbrett]

65. Actually, I have seen many candidates, especially recently, "dress down"

Rolled-up sleeves, no coat, no tie, etc.

[CyberPieHole]

44. You mean she needs to KEEP IT REAL?

Like this woman?



Why is it Oprah only looks thin(ner) and young(ish) on the cover of her magazine? Please don't tell me they airbrush the thing...not the woman who tells the world that people should "age gracefully" and who tells women not to lie about their age...NO, Oprah could never be a HYPOCRITE!

:rofl:

[Vektor]

61. I like that picture of Hillary you have.

Do you know when that was taken? I have always thought she was a very pleasant looking lady, and never could understand the stupid right wing smears that she was "ugly."

Where do they get that crap from?

I've seen her in person as well, and she has a warm, friendly face.

[CyberPieHole]

67. Thanks, I like that photo of Senator Clinton too...

I don't know when it was taken, but I assume it must have been during the White House years. She is an attractive woman and I guess they have to pick on something and when it's a woman you want to pick on you always go for the looks...she's obviously too bright to be called stupid even by freepers or even some of the anti~Hillary camp here on DU. I saw her in person in New York a few years ago at a fund~raiser...she looked great.

[Vektor]

73. Thanks.

I've never seen that photo before, but it's a pretty one.

And yes, it is petty and rude to spend so much time trying to find fault with her appearance when she actually looks nice, and that's really not the issue.

Small minds, I guess.

[Beacool]

90. She still looks great and I just saw her on Feb. 4th.

I was at her Hallmark town hall meeting. I took a picture with her and she put her arm over my shoulder, even at that close range she looked terrific.

The few times that I have seen her in person she has always been charming, funny and engaging. In other words, a very classy lady.

More's the pity that so many are gleefully throwing her under the bus and even backing up the bus to go over her one more time........

[golddigger]

85. I love that pic of Hillary. Awesome!

[paperbag_ princess]

54. I don't think that is how senators working late are dressed..

...nor would I want them to be dressed that way...

although that is how I dress :P


:dem:

[AmandaRuth]

62. i am disgusted with the venom and bile

spewed at Senator Clinton on this Dem board

[Bucky]

66. Clinton's earned a lot of money from investments & bookwriting. Why can't she dress nice?

"Take off that damned ascot, Franklin! Don't you know there's a Great Depression on?!"

[hisownpetard]

68. Et tu, Brute?

I didn't SAY she can't dress nicely.
I didn't say she hasn't earned her money the hard way.
I didn;t say any of the things implied in half of the off-the-chart responses here.

When you put things in a series, whether it's verbally or visually, they usually have a common thread.
I think that showing a waitress in a diner pouring coffee and a night-shift nurse, and then showing Hillary in a suit jacket without
a crease, didn't smack of realism. Therefore, I thought the add would be better if they left everything as is but took her picture
out of it.

Pretty simple, and definitely not worth the energy expended to defend it here.

[Bucky]

83. Well, she could've dressed up like Eliza Doolittle & said "Oi'm for bleedin' 'elfcare, guvnah!"

She sure wouldn't have appeared snobbish then. Anyway, to be fair, Edwards had the temerity to talk about the "two Americas" while wearing a crisp business suit! Talk about your limosine liberal! Then Obama rode in a friggin' sedan to accept the Teamsters' endorsement! If he had an ounce of integrity, he would've dressed up like a drover and whipped a team of Clydesdales to the event. Oh, this upper class hypocrites!

[JimGinPA]

69. That's Why Her Negatives Are At 48%...

She just doesn't get it.

[lizziegrace]

71. I saw that commercial and my jaw dropped

:wow:

How could she possibly know what life is like now???

[llm]

78. well

I haven't seen the ad, but you don't have to live it, to empathize with any given situation.

[hisownpetard]

80. I never said you did.

[Bucky]

84. Personal experience?

Just a guess.

[durrrty libby]

87. Your "jaw dropped"? Oh the hysteria and faux rage. What a crock of shit

:dunce: :rofl:

[lizziegrace]

91. Is your thermostat set at 50

because heating oil is too expensive to buy? Mine has been all winter. Do you have collection agencies calling for medical bills and you *have* insurance and pay your bills? But everyone wants all their bill paid now. $4,000 maximum per year per person out of pocket. Has the tuition at the university your child attends doubled in 10 years? Have you worked 10 hours at your day job and cashiered at Kroger until 1am to have enough money to keep a roof over your head.

Don't you dare call me a dunce because I don't believe that Hillary Clinton could possibly understand what life is like for many of us.

Back off. It's not a crock of shit.

[Skittles]

98. hilarious, isn't it?

:rofl:

[MS68]

96. I have a master's degree and am making close to

100 K/year. Well, not that close, but close enough. I still remember exactly how it felt to stand on my feet for 8 hours a day and cashier at Walgreens for 3.25/hour and to stand in heels (Payless) as a bank teller making 4.50/hour. I also remember what it felt like to work all day and then go sit in a class room at night and write papers on the weekends.

I don't forget where I came from - it just makes me appreciate it even more.

[Enrique]

88. and John Edwards got an expensive haircut

and John Kerry windsurfs.

:eyes:

[jackson_dem]

93. Yup and FDR was rich

In politics only Obama, who is poor at just $2.6 million in two years, can understand the poor. :eyes: Just ask the msm and Obamites.

[RunningFromCongress]

92. $800? I think you're about 3 times on the low side

[elixir]

97. If this is all you have, I'm happy.

[Ellen Forradalom]

100. Excuse me. She's running for President of the United States

All candidates have to look professional. Even Mr. Leftist Man of the People Dennis Kucinich wore suits.

I do not believe this shit.