Fox/Opinion Dynamics Poll: 47% of the country would "never" vote for HRC

[BeyondGeography]

FOX News Poll: Obama Has Slim Edge Over McCain, Half Would Never Vote for Clinton

Obama leads McCain, 47-43
McCain leads Clinton, 47-44

Nearly half of voters (47 percent) say they would “never” vote for Clinton, while 37 percent say they “definitely” would. For McCain, 41 percent would “definitely” vote for him and 34 percent “never” would. Obama performs best on this measure as 44 percent would “definitely” vote for him and 34 percent “never” would.

Tiny consolation prize for Obama haters: 30% of those polled say Osama wants him to win, compared with 22% for Clinton.

More at:

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/21/fox-news-poll-obama-has-slim-edge-over-mccain-half-would-never-vote-for-clinton/

[rpannier]

1. FAUX news and opinion dynamics

Not even good enough to be broken clocks.

A broken clock is right 2x a day.
Faux 2x a year

[Cha]

2. Whatever the statistics right now

hilary is garnering people more and more everyday who would never vote for her.

[NJmaverick]

34. That's true, if she some how won or stole the nomination

Odds are they number would end up being close to 60%

[loveangelc]

3. the writing's on the wall if we pick hillary...

[theHandpuppet]

4. Since when does DU rely on FOX News as a source?

My, things certainly have changed around here.

[MadBadger]

5. Didnt you hear? Fox is more fair than MSNBC is.

[Hieronymus]

11. Surely, this is not the first you've heard of other polls showing ..

the same thing.:eyes:

[jackson_dem]

24. Since Murdoch's newspaper began endorsing Obama?

[SaveElmer]

6. Count me in the 34%...nt

[cali]

12. so much for you GBCW

thing. If you change your mind that quickly, you shouldn't rule out voting for Obama if he's the nominee. Clearly, never means maybe to you.

[SaveElmer]

13. I have no idea what you are talking about...

I have to say the more I look into Obama...the more stunned I am by how abjectly unqualified he is to be President...

No means no...Obama will not get my vote under any circumstance...

[BeyondGeography]

14. We'll win Virginia without you, then

especially with Webb on the ticket.

[SaveElmer]

16. I would hate to lose Webb as a Senator...

Where he can actually do some good...rather than wetnursing neophyte Obama for 4 years

However I don't think I have to worry about Webb leaving the Senate any time soon...

[BeyondGeography]

17. It's just not one of those "experience" years, Elmer

Plus, who taught Hillary how to run a campaign?

[SaveElmer]

18. Every year ought to be an experience year...

Unfortunately in the Democratic Party at least...the main qualification for President of the United States...is to be unqualified...

But hey, Obama did get that Post Office built...that's quite a notch on his belt...

[BeyondGeography]

19. If she voted no on IWR she could have avoided this whole discussion

good to see democracy can still exact a price for fatal blunders.

[SaveElmer]

20. As it will in 2010 when the Democrats lose Congress...

After 2 disastrous years with Obama as President...

[BeyondGeography]

21. Oh, man...this is not a good time, I see

But, seriously, who screwed this up, Hillary or Mark Penn?

[SaveElmer]

25. Nobody screwed up...

Campaigning is not an exact science. The Democratic Party is not interested in experience and accomplishment apparently...they are interested in a pretty face and nice speaking voice...

They are about to get what they deserve...a brief 4 year run in the majority...doesn't seem worth it

[BeyondGeography]

30. I remember all the snickering last year about the community organizer entry on his resume

Turns out he had built some relevant skills up over the years after all, don't you think? Beyond the pretty face and the nice speaking voice, of course.

[SaveElmer]

31. Cool...

He and George Bush have something in common then...

[jackson_dem]

29. The msm

[0007]

39. That's an easy one!

Him/Her

[frylock]

33. when the Democrats lose Congress..

say, didn't that happen when your sainted bill clinton was the prez?

[jackson_dem]

28. Wrong SaveElmer

The "agent of change" didn't build a post office. He merely "transformed" the community it was in by naming it.

[jackson_dem]

27. In the primaries...

Although "change (for the sake of change! The 90's were horrible with all that peace and prosperity!)" did come close enough to "experience (and performance)" in the 2000 general to allow the selection. Maybe we are at a point in our history that we demand experience to run Mickey D's but not for the toughest job in the world. After all, "change" worked out so well for us last time over that bad ole' experience Gore had. Did you know Clinton-Gore created 22 million jobs? That's it! :rofl: HOPE alone would create 30 million!

[yodermon]

37. So when Obama is the nominee,

kindly get the bloody goddamn fuck off of this board.
:hi:

[Captain Hilts]

7. That # does not reflect the 25% of Rep women who would consider voting for her. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I Wonder If A Legit Polling Organization Would Ask Who OBL Likes Best?

~

[progressive_realist]

8. Quite ironic

IMHO, Obama is the only one likely to go after Osama. Osama Bin Laden has enjoyed complete immunity under the Bush administration because of the Bush family's close ties to the Bin Laden family and the Saudi royal family. He has got to be shitting bricks knowing that the full might of the USA may soon be coming after him. Considering Clinton's close ties to the Bush family and the defense industry, and her husband's financial ties to the Middle East, I doubt she would do anything to disrupt the Al-Qaeda gravy train. McCain proved in 2000 that he is easily blackmailed or bullied into submission, so he is probably not a threat either. But as of right now, and especially considering Obama's Pakistan comments, I see no reason why Obama won't be going after Bin Laden in a big way as soon as he takes office.

:patriot:

[BeyondGeography]

10. It's the name/Hussein thing more than anything

Good to see he has locked in more voters than anyone else, at least in this poll.

[11 Bravo]

15. How long has Fox done your thinking for you?

[casus belli]

22. Despite enjoying the resuts of that poll...

It's still a Fox News "study", and should be taken with a grain of salt. I have a hard time believing they are capable of conducting a "fair and balanced" assessment of anything political in nature.

[bunnies]

23. And if she continues to allow her surrogates to insult Obama supporters...

that number will only go up. The more I think about that jackasses rant from yesterday, the more pissed off I get. You want to insult me then expect my vote? As tweety said... "screw you". Insulting a candidates supporters is WAY over the line. And if an Obama surrogate did that... heads would be exploding all over this place.

[BlackVelvet04]

26. Dude....

it's Fox.....what do you expect.

[BeyondGeography]

32. Sometimes their polls don't suck

which is about the best you can say for any pollster.

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. That indicates as much to me as the lead Dukakis had over Bush Sr before the contest started

Hillary presents herself really well in interviews, on the stump, and in debates. Even most supporters of other candidates here on DU have noticed that if they aren't obsessed with having to stay in non stop candidate advocate spin mode. Hillary angers some of us when she seems to go too negative against another Democrat - but that same quality would thrill us when she used it against McCain. And she would be effective at driving up McCain's negatives when she did so. Hillary also shows humor, intelligence, warmth and grace along with a fighting spirit.

A lot of Americans still tend to think of Hillary as Bill's wife, as an impressive wife perhaps, but as his wife none the less. They haven't really looked at her on her own yet, and many have been infected by the right wing propaganda assault on her that went on relentlessly for a decade. As the wife of the national politician rather than the national politician herself, Hillary did not have nearly the access that Bill did to the media to defend herself and present her own case. Had she tried to hard to do so she would have been seen as over reaching her role and being too pushy.

Americans will see Hillary for themselves and in a new light if she becomes the Democratic nominee. The choice will then be start; Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party or John McCain and the Republican Party. Right now many of those who "claim" they would never vote for Hillary are giving a knee jerk reaction because it isn't real - there are other theortical choices so they don't have to give Hillary another serious look.

[suston96]

36. Just a thought - as long as there are two viable candidates like Obama and Clinton -

- these kinds of hypotheticals are not very trustworthy. When the nomination is secured by either one, those numbers, and especially that "never" will change.

[Independent-Voter]

38. Shoot the messenger, but those numbers make some sense

You damn well know that 90% of the GOP would not consider voting for her. There are a large number of independents, moderates, and dare I say democrats that feel the same way. I'd like to see another survey outfit ask the same questions, but several have already pointed to her terrible negative ratings.

So would 47% never consider voting for her? Maybe, maybe not, but I'd guess the true figure isn't all that far off.