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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:04 PM
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Clinton Campaign Ends January $7.6 Million in Debt.
Hillary Rodham Clinton ended January with $7.6 million in debt — not including the $5 million personal loan she gave to her campaign in the run-up to the critical Super Tuesday elections, according to financial reports released Wednesday.

In contrast, Democratic rival Barack Obama’s campaign’s finances continued to be robust.

He reported raising nearly $37 million and spending nearly $31 million. His cash balance was $25 million, of which roughly $20 million can be spent on the primary. He reported a comparatively small $1 million in debts, owed largely to just three vendors.

The January monthly financial disclosure reports glimpse a behind-the-scenes imbalance that has had a significant impact on the primary contest — one that continues in the days leading up to the critical March 4 primaries in Texas and Ohio.

As the Clinton campaign scrambles for cash, Obama appears on track to raise more than $30 million again in February.

Phil Singer, a Clinton spokesman, downplayed the disparity. “Thanks to an enormous outpouring of support, we will raise more money this month than in any other so far. We have all the resources we need to compete and win,” he said.

But the Clinton report paints a picture of a one-time front-runner under enormous pressure after miscalculating that she would wrap up the nomination before or on Feb. 5.

According to the reports, Clinton raised about $20 million in January, including her loan. She spent nearly $29 million during the month.

more at link: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8613.html
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:08 PM
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1. she will be broke after Texas and Ohio
literally, broke.

Even if she wins those states, she'll struggle to put any ads on tv in Pennsylvania.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:15 PM
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4. She's already broke and drowning in debt.
The cash on hand she's showing is General Election cash that her campaign cannot touch. And she owes money going all the way back to August of 2007 here in Iowa. This campaign was THE MOST poorly run campaign EVER (at least Howard Dean's campaign paid their bills - the Clinton campaign isn't even doing that).
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:26 PM
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20. That's why her 527 is starting up
They'll have to run the ads, since she can't afford to do it herself.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:13 PM
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2. Several of those debts are from IOWA whose contest was seven weeks ago
Her campaign didn't pay taxes (Iowa, Arkansas, Missouri, Colorado to name a few), insurance fees, food/catering bills, phone bills, bills for events at schools and fair grounds, many staff members have a 'debt' owed to them.

Where did the $130 million go? How can the campaign still owe $$ to the Iowa State Fair ($6,000 some - and the fair was in August!)? What absolute piss-poor management.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:15 PM
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3. If they hit Obama on the Commander in Chief or inexperience or
any other leadership abilities, he should use this.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:18 PM
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7. He SHOULD use this
I posted another thread the comparison of debt owed between the two campaigns (Clinton $7.6 million + $5 million loan vs. Obama $1.1 million). Obama does have debt in Iowa to be fair - $15,000 to the US Cellular Center and $700 dollars to Iowa Telcom. Of course his campaign kept their offices open and people on staff here in Iowa through Feb. 5th and yet owes no taxes, no back-salary, no back-rent and no catering bills here in Iowa.

A very good fiscal manager he is.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:21 PM
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14. Wow
I know a guy who tried to run a business that way. He went around the country and just stacked up debt everywhere, was trying to turn it into a national internet development company. He's still running from the law, as far as I know. Funny how the definition of fraud changes from one person to another. I just don't know how the Clintons keep getting away with this.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:23 PM
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17. I'm sure they let everyone know that they'd pay them back as soon
as the primaryes are over. ;)

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:15 PM
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5. My question is how?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:19 PM
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10. Parking spaces.
A few dozen parking spaces.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:25 PM
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18. 900,000 people think he would make a good President
and send him money.

Not rocket science.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:26 PM
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21. Hillary Clinton is a he? Boy, that's more than rocket science right there....
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:27 PM
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22. thought you meant Obama
Which half the article is about.

Article mentions that Hillary thought the campaign would end by super tuesday.

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:28 PM
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23. Read the OP headline, they were posting it to discuss Clinton.
Which I was doing.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:16 PM
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6. I am on your side but this report shows she had $ 29 million on hand
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:19 PM
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8. That's mentioned, read here from the article:
She reported a cash balance of $29 million. But more than $20 million of that is money dedicated to the general election. Her personal loan accounts for more than half of the remaining approximately $9 million, leaving just about $4 million in cash raised from donors.

But even that money is illusionary when measured against the reported $7.6 million in debts.

More than $2 million of the red ink is owed to chief consultant and adviser, Mark Penn. But the lengthy laundry list of IOUs also includes unpaid bills ranging from insurance coverage, phone banking, printing and catering at events in Iowa, New Hampshire and California.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:41 PM
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25. thank you
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:42 PM
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26. Is there anyway to determine if recent donations are going for
current expenses or to pay past debt?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:53 PM
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28. We really won't know until the reporting on February comes out
so we can see where the money went. However, many of the debts listed in her January 2008 reporting are bills that were due in 2007 and not paid.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:03 PM
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29. so probably not before the March 4th vote.
hmmm maybe they are continuing the campaign so they can continue to raise money and pay their debt.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:10 PM
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30. But every day they continue the campaign they incur more debt
vicious circle and all.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:18 PM
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32. yeah but if they suddenly stop media buys that would mean that
most of their variable expenses are curtailed and the rest - rent salaries etc are fixed expenses.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:24 PM
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34. You mean have the 527 take over their costs? I don't think so.
rent, salaries, etc. aren't fixed expenses because they have to open up offices in the next state and the next state and so on. They have to pay for venues to hold events and the printing/mailing costs of literature in each state.

They haven't paid their bills from 20-some contests ago - and media was only a portion of those costs - how will they pay the current and future bills?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:27 PM
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35. Well what I am saying is that they may stop all future committments
and just let the money roll in until March 4th. If they stop now their contributions will end. The key indicator will be media buys.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:32 PM
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36. I guess I don't understand you - you mean stop campaigning
until March 4th? Anywhere? Nobody will give her money if she does that. It's a guarantee she'll lose on March 4th if she doesn't make the effort.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:37 PM
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37. carry on a facade until Mar 4
if she knows shes going to lose she is going to start working on the debt
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:46 PM
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38. Don't tell anyone
but that might be what she's doing right now.

;)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 06:59 PM
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39. somebody read my mind
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 08:19 PM
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41. Damn DUers are good n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:20 PM
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13. That is General Election $$ that she cannot touch in the primary
Here's a story another poster gave me on that:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/january-fundrai.html

Plus it's obvious the campaign decided NOT to pay their bills to bolster the amount of COH shown and hoped that their debt would be ignored. Smarmy way of doing things.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:19 PM
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9. I wonder how she feels about the bankruptcy bill now.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:19 PM
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11. repeat after me... if you cant run a campaign you cant run a country. period. end of story.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:21 PM
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15. Yep.
Talk about all talk and no substance.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:21 PM
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16. Ding Ding Ding
we have a winner! :bounce:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:22 PM
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33. That's about it nt
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:20 PM
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12. That's some kind of fiscal responsibility! Good job HRC!
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:25 PM
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19. K & R n/t
:kick:
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:29 PM
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24. what happens to the 20 mil if she doesnt make the GE?
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 04:29 PM by jakem
just askin'
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 04:46 PM
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27. Probably will be transferred to her Senate campaign
or pay off the debts, I dunno exactly how the law explains it.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 05:15 PM
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31. K&R
:kick:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:02 PM
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40. Obama's Wall Street friends
Let's hope we don't find out the hard way that he's sold them his presidency, just as he sold his senate seat to them.

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