Big Blue Marble
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:21 PM
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Poll question: Poll: Do you agree that we should not being posting Necons' garbage to trash our candidates. |
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I am sickened by the growing tendency on DU to use Right Wing and Necon commentary to trash either of our candidates. This is Democratic Underground.
We have spent the last seven years fighting these people. When did it become OK to use their mutterings to beat up our own?
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:24 PM
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1. Can you be more specific? |
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:25 PM
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:28 PM
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But Karl's not a neocon. He's an oldschoolcon.
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Big Blue Marble
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:26 PM
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5. How about using Karl Rove to beat up Obama. |
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:28 PM
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:31 PM
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10. That should be put in the context of "oppo research" |
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For bashing, no. But for analysis, certainly.
But your point about loss-of-perspective is what matters. With perspective, these articles can be seen for what they are -- neo-con time bombs. Without perspective, posting a single punctuation mark can become a red flag.
--p!
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Thu Feb-21-08 05:43 PM
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20. Thanks for your wise imput. n/t |
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Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 06:03 PM by Big Blue Marble
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:25 PM
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2. when winning at all costs was more important than being a democrat. |
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:26 PM
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4. other - people should be explaining the + of their candidate, not trashing anyone. nt |
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:27 PM
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6. We all need to clean house -- soon. |
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We ought be be able to figure a way to fight effectively for our candidates without poisoning the well. It is a pressing need here and on most Prog/Lib sites.
As Democrats, we should be able to fight hard and then quickly rebuild solidarity. This primary season has not been conducive to that process so far. It's time we gave it some thought.
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:28 PM
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8. I think the greater shame |
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Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 04:30 PM by BOSSHOG
is the wealth of "garbage" originating from our two candidates supporters which can be used by the right wing trash against the winner of our parties nomination. Obama and Clinton supporters have done a fine job of filling up the septic tank with little or no need to look to the right wing for assistance.
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:37 PM
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11. Thanks BOSS. A voice of reason. |
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As I see it, we have two strong candidates and either of them is preferable to McCain or any of the other Republicans that were running. I truly appreciate those posters who have not trashed either candidate.
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:42 PM
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14. Always great to hear from Granny |
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I was able to watch my Hogs kick LSU's ass last night on local New Orleans TV. We are planning a trip next year back to the state I truly love (or at least the northwest corner of it.)
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:38 PM
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12. When it is true, it must be posted. When it is not true, it should not be posted. |
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I would like to think that the source of the information is irrelevant.
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Big Blue Marble
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Thu Feb-21-08 04:41 PM
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13. That is such a lame rationalization. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 04:42 PM by Big Blue Marble
The source is never irrelevant. Where have you been the last 7 years.
Of course, KR wants to take Obama down. He can beat them. He will undue all the crap that we have had to endure for these years. He will undermine everything they have done to this country.
How you can justify this is just how do you say putrid. :puke:
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Thu Feb-21-08 05:08 PM
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15. You seem to be saying that true statements should be covered up when it comes from our opponents? |
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How can YOU justify such a position?
If a statement is true, then the source of the true statement does not matter. If a statement is not true, the source of the not true statement still does not matter either. True statements should be posted; to do anything else is cover-up and conspiracy. Not true statements should be posted only for the purpose of debunking them; to do anything else is fraud if not outright lying. How can you say otherwise?
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Thu Feb-21-08 05:16 PM
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Karl Rove is not writing the truth. He is writing opinion. Just like you and I are writing opinion.
It is simply BS to argue that the man who as responsible as anyone for the losses we have sustained in the last 7 years is now writing the truth because he is saying what you want to believe.
This, then, could be the most profound definition of desperatism: as in I am so desperate to find anyone that will tear down the other Democratic candidate, that I will use Karl Rove.
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Thu Feb-21-08 05:14 PM
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I think Obama supporters have become upset about Hillary supporters' claims that Obama has been advertising heavily on the Rush Limbaugh show in Texzas.
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Thu Feb-21-08 05:15 PM
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17. DU does have such a rule |
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Thu Feb-21-08 05:21 PM
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19. I think people's feelings on this |
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change depending on who the target is.
I've seen lots of right-wing attacks used against Clinton here. Obama supporters cheer it on.
If the target is Obama, then the source, the poster, and his dog, his mother and his children are all rotten bastards and shouldn't be allowed here.
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Thu Feb-21-08 06:09 PM
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21. You are making my point nicely. |
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I want it to be wrong either way. We cannot trust these people to have our interests in mind. We know how they have operated for all these years.
I would want it to be off-limits either way. We do a pretty decent job of attacking each other, But IMO to use Right Wing or Neocon commentary to weaken either of these candidates is in a word outrageous in the highest order.
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Thu Feb-21-08 06:43 PM
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22. Yeah, What's good for the gander is not good for the goose. |
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Is that misogynistic? lol ;shrug:
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