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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:06 PM
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No Joke People, TX Poll: Obama 57 Clinton 43
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 07:13 PM by hnmnf
Obama Leading Clinton in Texas, According to Feb. 20 and 21 Statewide Survey by Decision Analyst
ARLINGTON, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Barack Obama has a double digit lead over Hillary Clinton in Texas, according to a statewide survey of 678 registered voters planning to vote in the March 4 Democratic Primary. The survey was conducted February 20 and 21 by Decision Analyst, a major national survey research firm. Decision Analyst projections indicate that if the election were held today Obama would win 57% to 43% over Clinton. The survey’s margin of error is 3 percentage points, plus or minus, at a 90% level of confidence.

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The issues of greatest importance to those who plan to vote in the Democratic Primary are (in order of importance): making healthcare more affordable (chosen by 35%); making the economy stronger and better (chosen by 29%); bringing the troops home from Iraq (28%); leadership (ability to manage government, work with world leaders, get things done) (17%); reducing gasoline prices and the cost of energy (16%).


Survey Methodology. Results based on scientific sampling of registered voters from American Consumer Opinion® (www.acop.com), one of the largest online research panels in the world. The sample was carefully balanced by gender, ethnicity, age, and geography; the data were weighted as necessary to fully represent the different demographic groups.

Decision Analyst (www.decisionanalyst.com), based in Dallas-Fort Worth, is a leading international marketing research and marketing consulting firm specializing in advertising testing, strategy research, new product development, and advanced modeling for decision optimization. In addition, Decision Analyst owns and operates American Consumer Opinion® Online, one of the largest research panels in the world with over 7 million members.


http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080221006244&newsLang=en

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:07 PM
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1. I don't buy it.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:08 PM
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3. I dont really buy it either, but its out there.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:08 PM
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2. He can win in TX by that much, I believe given WI results
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:08 PM
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4. I'm cautiously optimistic. Seems too good to be true.
What kind of record does Decision Analyst have this year?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:53 PM
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38. It says 3%
Thats pretty good for polling.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:08 PM
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5. I'd really like to see the crosstabs on this one.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:08 PM
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6. Get thee behind me, polls!
UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!!!!



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rocknation

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Yurem2008 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:11 PM
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9. OK, assuming Hillary gets blown away in TX
she loses the nomination and this Autumn she divorces Bill Clinton.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:14 PM
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15. !
:spray:

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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:09 PM
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7. As an Obama supporter, I can only call this an outlier
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 07:10 PM by thesubstanceofdreams
All recent polls except this one agree that it's a very close race with possibly a small advantage for Clinton at the moment.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:11 PM
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8. I prefer polls by companies like SUSA, Rasmussen, etc.
...who have a decent track record which I know about.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:12 PM
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12. SUSA yes, Rasmussen no. I dont understand the assmumption that they have a good track record.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:11 PM
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10. Decision Analyst, a major national survey research firm. (really? First time I hear of them).
I think that Obama is behind in Ohio, but I do not know this firm. Never heard of them.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:11 PM
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11. I'd like to know what their methodology was here
That just seems way out of whack; like ARG out of whack.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:13 PM
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14. I edited to include who they are and methodology.
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:12 PM
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13. Zogby, is that you?
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:15 PM
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16. No way he is leading by that magin BUT if true shes done
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:18 PM
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17. Another Obama supporter who wonders what they did wrong
This is too far out of line to be real.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:19 PM
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18. MY POLL Says Hillary's Up 75% To 25%!!! And It's Ok To Trust Me: I'm A Leading International
marketing research and marketing consulting firm!!!
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:21 PM
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20. Where's your website?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:22 PM
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23. Right Here:
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:25 PM
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28. So you have Rick Roll
But you don't have a website? :)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:21 PM
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22. Well, I just polled my office and Obama's got a two-to-one advantage in Texas
I knew Jeff would come thru for me. Laurie's pissed, of course.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:23 PM
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25. I just polled my apartmnet. Obama's gonna win 100%
Only white Jewish men who have already voted in NJ will turnout.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:20 PM
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19. Did ARG change its name?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:21 PM
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21. I thought they had for a minute. Hey, ARG was second closest in Wisco!
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:46 PM
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36. You're right -- on that last second avulsion!
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:50 PM
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37. Idunno -- I always see them as Aarghh
:-)
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:23 PM
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24. Only 678 polled? I thought most samples were over 1000.
I guess we'll find out March 4th, when I expect turnout to be very, very high for Democratic voters.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:24 PM
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27. The problem isnt with the sample size. 678 is actually the highest number for any of the TX polls.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:23 PM
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26. no previous political experience
Fairly large market survey company

This company isn't about second guessing. Decision Analyst offers market research and consulting services to clients such as Radio Shack, Intel, Mannatech, and Schering-Plough. The company provides syndicated and custom research serving the packaged goods, telecommunications, retail, health care, and e-commerce industries. Its research services include data collection and analysis, covering such topics as advertising testing, strategy research, new product development, and marketing decision optimization. In addition, its statistical analysis software, STAT, allows the user to conduct significant testing, measure sample sizes, and generate random numbers. Decision Analyst was founded in 1978.


On March 5th they will either be a very famous polling company or going back judging consumer interest in whole grain bread

http://www.hoovers.com/decision-analyst/--ID__106398--/free-co-profile.xhtml
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:25 PM
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29. the polls said wisconsin was neck and neck. none of the blowouts were
predicted by anyone. i suspect that it is the definition of likely voters that is not pointing at the flood of new voters we are seeing.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:27 PM
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30. Public Policy had Obama winning by 13 because they weighted the results to figure in greater turnout
There poll had Obama winning by 4 I believe, but they fiddled with the numbers by how they thought turnout would go and saw a 13 point Obama win.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:27 PM
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31. And here I thought the phrase "hopeful little wingnut" should be reserved for Repugs.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:43 PM
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33. Excuse me?
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:28 PM
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32. maybe they underestimated latinos?
Edited on Thu Feb-21-08 07:28 PM by loveangelc
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:44 PM
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34. The polls are all over the place, but Obama's trend is unmistakable!!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 07:45 PM
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35. That I can agree with.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:00 PM
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40. The trending is key, as shown in Pollster.com graph below ...
... and there's still nearly 2 weeks until the TX primary. Unless something happens to severely disrupt the trend, Obama is going to hugely benefit from the instinct people have to go with the winning team.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:10 PM
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43. he's on his way ....
cheers!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:46 PM
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45. cheers! (love the signature graphic) n/t
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:56 AM
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39. Pollster.com averages sure do look to have the race tightening-up
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 12:01 PM by krkaufman
I don't trust individual polls, especially when a race is this volatile. The pollster.com graphs indicate the race may be a dead heat.




Obama has a LOT more ground to cover in Ohio: http://www.pollster.com/08-OH-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:04 PM
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41. Looks like an outlier to me. I think a better sign is the early voting turnout
in areas favorable to Obama. Remember that Clinton did very well with the early voting in California, and that is a big part of the reason she had an easy time winning the state. Now, it is possible the early voting in TX will favor Obama. Only time will tell.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:53 PM
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46. Right. She did well in states that had early voting.... especially where early voting started...
... before Obama really started picking-up steam.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:59 PM
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42. There could be some logic to this report.
The majority of other reports show a trend. It works like this: a month before the state election, Obama's ten to twenty points down; a week to the election he's between five and ten points; three days before the election, lo and behold--Obama's neck and neck (some polls even show him up a bit); then, the day of the election shows that the last polls were right! He's made it! It's Obama!

Who wins with polls like the one you just cited? Not the media--they're the ones building the event. Wait a minute? Are they the same ones running the majority of the polls to begin with? Could it be?

Vast numbers of Hillary supporters following her after her latest losing debate, after her 11-0 loss, and after watching Obama looking more electable than ever... well, it's unlikely.

Maybe your poll is the good one.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:12 PM
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44. I completely totally and utterly do not buy this.
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