PLAGIARISM AGAIN?!?!

[mudesi]

What complete idiocy.

Shame on CNN. Shame on Clinton.

Nobody cares about this nonsense.

[Moochy]

1. Wow HRC is a troll

Maybe she visits hillaryis44.org? :evilgrin:

[flyarm]

2. i do,and may i suggest you turn in a term paper at college that is plagiarized..and see where that

gets you.

to say it doesn't matter shows your ignorance.

fly

[woolldog]

3. Political speeches aren't academic papers.

[Breeze54]

5. It matters to me too...

He's a smart guy and I think he'd do much better by using his own words, aside from quoting historical people/leaders.

[Moochy]

6. What part of Deval Patrick GIVING HIM THE LINES TO USE

dont you understand ?

Oh that's right you must be one of those hyprocritcal DU'ers..

[Catchawave]

11. He should use his own words or attribute verbatim phrases n/t

[Moochy]

15. Look another hypocrite!

[Breeze54]

20. Why does he need to borrow anything?

:shrug:

[Moochy]

22. Because the lines were good

[Breeze54]

26. They actually made me cringe a bit.... they seemed contrived.

I'd prefer he be original. The words he repeated made me feel like I was having dejavue. (Patrick)

[Moochy]

27. Well the Kool-Aid helps You Forget

So that must be why the lines seemed good to me!
:rofl:

[Breeze54]

30. I don't drink koolaid....

I can't remember the last time I bought any. Might have been when my
youngest was 7 yrs old, for his lemonade stand but that was 12 years ago. ;)

[Moochy]

31. I was skeptical too

But the kool-aid man killed my other two candidates. :D

yum!

[flyarm]

21. what part of academics and plagiarism do you not get?

you can get all the permission in the world..you still must credit who you "borrow" full statements from..i don't give a rats ass if they write you a permission slip..you must still credit the person you are copying..can you get that?? or are you still ignorant of what plagiarism is?
fly

[Moochy]

23. duplicate

duplicate

[Moochy]

24. Well I hope the Professor FLUNKs obama

He's never gonna get his degree!

[flyarm]

32. this is plagiarism...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqutz5ASDSA&eurl=http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/21/noted-plagiarism-expert-weighs-in/

http://www11.georgetown.edu/programs/gervase/hc/plagiar...

Main Entry: pla·gia·rize
Function: verb
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rīz also -je-&-
Inflected Form(s): -rized ; -riz·ing
Etymology: plagiary
transitive senses
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
- pla·gia·riz·er noun

[Moochy]

36. Self-Referential, Recursive Post

[grantcart]

13. lol tell me you have something better than this

when a contributor offers suggestions and words its not plagerism

when Obama gave previous public attribution "I am going to steal a line from my buddy Deval . . ." it is not plagerism

and then we have all of Clinton's borrowed phrases and her lack of courtesy in acknowledging her ghost writer

please maintain some self respect

[rocktivity]

4. It's not plagiarsm unless the VICTIM says it's plagiarsm!

Case in point: Obama could say that Hillary has plagiarized HIM, but he hasn't!

:rofl:
rocknation

[bpeale]

8. the victim does not have to say its plagarism for it to be so

[bpeale]

7. it bothers me too. i work in academia.

and it bothers employers too.

[merh]

12. It can't be plagarism if the words, the speech was given to him.

If you are in academia, you should know that.

Plagarism is using another's words without permission.

[bpeale]

14. you STILL HAVE TO CREDIT THE AUTHOR WHEN YOU USE IT

otherwise its still plagarism. presenting an idea or words as your own that someone else invented or wrote.

[Moochy]

16. transmit hillbot message #4

[merh]

25. No you don't.

You credit the author when you use their published words without their permission. (Bibliographies or direct quote/reference.)

If I quote someone in my writing, if I use part of their writing in my writing and do not give them the credit for their words and do not have their permission, then I have plagiarized.

Plagiarism is theft of another person's writings or ideas. Generally, it occurs when someone steals expressions from another author's composition and makes them appear to be his own work. Plagiarism is not a legal term; however, it is often used in lawsuits. Courts recognize acts of plagiarism as violations of Copyright law, specifically as the theft of another person's Intellectual Property. Because copyright law allows a variety of creative works to be registered as the property of their owners, lawsuits alleging plagiarism can be based on the appropriation of any form of writing, music, and visual images.

Song writers either give permission for other performers to use their lyrics or they sell a license to the lyrics. You don't hear performers stand up and say, this is Song Writer's Janes lyrics. They don't have to because they have either been given permission and/or bought the rights.

Please stop with the nonsense.

Tons of speeches are made using the words and ideas of another, HRC has done the same in her speeches, borrowing from Obama. What truly makes it not plagarism is he was given the permission to use the words and ideas.

[flyarm]

28. no it is not...

even if they give you permission you must cite them..and creidt the originator.

http://www11.georgetown.edu/programs/gervase/hc/plagiarism_print.html

Main Entry: pla·gia·rize
Function: verb
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rīz also -je-&-
Inflected Form(s): -rized ; -riz·ing
Etymology: plagiary
transitive senses
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
- pla·gia·riz·er noun

[merh]

29. Not in a speech, fly

and not legally - as I posted below, song writers own the lyrics. They either give permission or sell the rights to other performers to use those lyrics and that other performer doesn't stand there and say "My next number was written by Suzzie Song Writer".

And look at your definition - to steal - literary theft.

You can't steal what is given to you.

[flyarm]

33. this is plagiarism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqutz5ASDSA&eurl=http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/21/noted-plagiarism-expert-weighs-in/

[merh]

34. No it is not.

Do you think that JE was the first to speak about being a Washington outsider? The words were not the same either.

HRC has actually been using O's catch phrases. Are you pitching a fit about that? Are you calling her a plagiarist?

[Moochy]

35. What's Plagiarism is all your talking points...

Rush Called and he wants them back.

[merh]

37. If that is plagiarism

then so too is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR1fAsHdAGM

and she even stole from her husband and from Obama's 2004 DNC speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5nEtIApcXw&feature=related

Stump speeches and "pushing" a message that resonates with the crowd, that moves the crowd is what political speeches have been about for centuries.

[11 Bravo]

9. Shit happens. Ask Joe Biden.

[grantcart]

10. she is trying to capture the silly demographic

[elixir]

17. Shame on you for plagiarizing the name of the band responsible for "Free Bird". BTW, HRC loves u.

[DemGa]

18. Obama's is a copied format campaign

Same exact recycled bullsh** as Deval Patrick.

The "movement" is a complete sham. Obama is a sham.

[backscatter712]

19. A picture is worth a thousand words: