Hillary knocks it out of the park best debate moment makes up for "xerox" statement

[cloud75]

Schneider: Clinton ends on a strong note
Posted: 09:51 PM ET
AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) — The audience loved Clinton’s first response when asked about a time she had been tested – a deliberately vague answer that drew a knowing laugh from many in the audience.

She then laid out a very eloquent response, essentially saying that her crises are nothing compared to the problems average voters confront.

It's one of the few debate answers to get a standing ovation.

– CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

[donheld]

1. Did they talk about her plagiarizing the finale?

[TheZug]

3. Oh, but they will.

[cloud75]

5. Anderson Cooper did.

[K Gardner]

2. Her "best debate moment" was plagiarized from two sources.

[Windy]

4. I, and a lot of bloggers around the internet immediately thought of her IWR vote

when she discussed the wounded and maimed soldiers.

[stillrockin]

6. FYI, "xerox" statement was booed, sounded canned and went over like a lead balloon.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

9. I checked and she has been booed a few other times

amazing.

Google it.

debate + hillary + booed

[cloud75]

14. FYI, I agree on the xerox comment the statement at the end made up for the gaffe.

that was my analysis. And i know about 80% of people here on du don't agree with me

[stillrockin]

23. she's fake.

[grantcart]

34. do you still agree now that you know that the statement at the end

was plagerized from a speech Bill made in 1992?

[LakeSamish706]

7. uhhhhhh No, Hillary sucks ok... Sorry, she looses and thats the bottom line...

Now Hillary, do the right thing and withdraw from this race and save some face.... This election is not about Hillary, its about the American people and what there needs are...... So slink away ASAP.

[northzax]

26. yes, we should certainly reward

the candidate who seems to have no interest in engaging an opponent. Obama came off as a wimp, refusing to engage on anything, simply reciting canned lines. He didn't debate, he didn't respond. This is what we want to face the GOP spin machine? Isn't this what we lambasted al gore and john Kerry for?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

8. the applause was for her - we'll be ok no matter how this turns out - comment

not for her poor me comment that she plagiarized off of Bill from 1992
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE7DF1E3CF937A35752C1A964958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

That Line
I mentioned at the end of my debate blog that the pivot of Hillary's powerful concluding remarks came from Bill Clinton's 92 campaign. Clinton had various permutations to it back then. But TPM Reader CG found one example in this November 1992 article by Anna Quindlen ...

Clinton, 92: "The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits the people of this state and this country have been taking for a long time."

Hillary Clinton, tonight: "You know, the hits I’ve taken in life are nothing compared to what goes on every single day in the lives of people across our country."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/179614.php

[Kaylee]

12. Unfortunately, that "we'll be ok" comment came from Edwards. nt

It was still a great ending, but I hope she didn't set herself up.

[RiverStone]

32. I heard that as ---"I'll be OK when I lose this thing"...n/t

[ecstatic]

10. Sorry. Her closing was laced with irony (IWR vote) and plagiarism (Edwards & Bill C.) nt

[BringBigDogBack]

13. Yup.

[keep_it_real]

11. It was a scripted line planned in advance not extemporaneous

[cloud75]

19. it still kicked!!

[grantcart]

35. yes just like it did in 1992 when bill first said it lol good xeroxing though

[depakid]

21. Extemporaneous remarks are often planned in advance

Extempt debate is not impromptu.

[TheZug]

28. Maybe if you're a Clinton.

[depakid]

30. Maybe if you know anything at all about forensics (debate)

[Thrill]

15. The last part was taken word for word from Edwards.

[MadBadger]

16. They gave both of them a standing OVation, because it was assumed the debate was over.

[rwheeler31]

17. yuk

[THUNDER HANDS]

18. the t-ball question

please...lady who's been through more scandals than Brittney Spears...tell us about a tough time in your life....we honestly can't think of one on our own....

[global1]

20. I Don't Think The Standing O Was For Her......

the people were standing and applauding both candidates because it was the end of the debate and they honored both candidates.

[K Gardner]

22. Exactly !

[cloud75]

24. the comment still kicked it was her best moment of the debate.

[RBInMaine]

25. Exactly !!

They were BOTH being honored. Now, the Hillary story about visiting the wounded vets was good, but in the morning they'll talk about her "plagiarized" Edwards and Bill lines.

[ORDem]

27. She got a standing ovation because of the genuiness of her

statement and because people saw that she was going to be graceful about leaving the race after TX/OH is over.

[rodeodance]

29. Thats great coming from Bill Schneider--Good for Hillary

[IndianaGreen]

31. It was a contrived and well rehearsed closing, borrowed from Edwards and Primary Colors

Who you calling a plagiarist?
21 Feb 2008 10:47 pm

During the debate, Dan Drezner suggested to me over IM that Hillary Clinton was plagiarizing Primary Colors. He backs it up on his own blog:

Hillary Clinton, February 21, 2008 debate with Barack Obama: "You know, lifting whole passages from someone else's speeches is not change you can believe in, it's change you can Xerox." Hillary Clinton, later on in the same debate: "You know, the hits I've taken in life are nothing compared to what goes on every single day in the lives of people across our country." Jack Stanton speech, in Primary Colors (New York: Random House, 1996), p. 162: "Y'know, I've taken some hits in this campaign. It hasn't been easy for me, or my family. It hasn't been fair, but it hasn't been anything compared to the hits a lot of you take every day."

Meanwhile, Chris Beam at Slate picks up on another instance:

Hillary, however, pivots in a way that evokes, of all things, her Diner Sob. Only this time, she sets herself up: “People often ask me, ‘How do you do it? How do you keep going?’ ” That’s the exact same question asked by Marianne Pernold Young at the Café Espresso in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on the eve of the primary. Clinton then goes into a colorful anecdote about a medical center filled with people injured in Iraq. She doesn’t exactly tear up, but it’s a deliberately emotional moment. (We see Chelsea looking teary afterwards.) At the very end, she borrows a line that John Edwards used toward the end of his campaign. "We're going to be fine," she said, referring to herself and Obama. (Edwards always said it about himself and Elizabeth.) "I just hope we can say the same thing about the American people."

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/who_you_calling_a_plagiarist.php

[jgraz]

33. Watch how often the Xerox remark is replayed over the next few days

I'm guessing it'll get roughly 5x the airtime of her closing statement. And, ironically, that's exactly what she was hoping for: she and her overpriced consultants cooked up that line in the hopes that they could score a replay of the "You're no JFK" moment.

Instead, she gave detractors and supporters alike a 10-second tutorial in how to lose the hearts and minds of the voters.