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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:19 AM
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Howard Dean HAMMERS McCain on honesty and ethics
by dday
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/21/23317/0726/91/461637

Right now we have two candidates in the middle of campaigning. They can't pay attention to the Republican opponent just yet. Someone needs to step in and fill the breach in the light of this brewing John McCain story. Unfortunately, the traditional media filled its rostrum with the usual wingnut welfare recipients and conservative standard bearers. No Democrat was brought on to discuss or describe the Iseman and Maverick scandal at all.

In case that ever changes, Howard Dean today, on the National Journal's radio show On the Air, offered the definitive template on how to handle this.

Q: So there is big news about John McCain -- the story that is in the New York Times, raising questions about his relationship with a lobbyist. This is a story the McCain people are saying is unfair and untrue. What do you think?

Dean: I have no idea whether the affair story is true or not, and I don't care. What I do care about is John McCain -- and this has been well-documented -- is talking all the time about being a reformer and a maverick, and in fact, he has taken thousands of dollars from corporations, ridden on their corporate jets, and then turned around and tried to do favors for them and get projects approved. He has tons of lobbyists on his staff. This is a guy who is very close to the lobbyist community, a guy who has been documented again and again by taking contributions and then doing favors for it. This is not a guy who is a reformer. This is a guy who has been in Washington for 25 years and wants to give us four more years of the same, and I don't think we need that.

First off, decouple the sex story (which is unsourced, lacking in merit and at this point a cheap shot) from the larger story. This is a scandal about a candidate who goes around with the patina of a reformer and a straight-talker, yet has spent 24 years inside Washington engaged in the same corrupt activities that have defined the Republican Party for a generation. Do that immediately. In the first sentence.

Second, connect the dots. The lobbyists on the staff (like his campaign manager), the lobbyists raising money for him, the corporate donations, the quid pro quo relationships, all of it needs to come out. Note that Dean doesn't get too far into the weeds, doesn't overwhelm with details, but he is extremely direct and clear and he never says "alleged." He says that the story on McCain is well-documented and it's sleazy.

Third, hit your opponent right at his strength. The Rove team attacked John Kerry on his national service. McCain uses his "straight talk express" image more than anything else. Go after that. Take him down. Because it's not like he has command of policy details to fall back on. He has 100 years in Iraq and that's it.

Q&A: HOWARD DEAN
Transcript: Howard Dean On John McCain And The Republican 'Culture Of Corruption'
http://nationaljournal.com/onair/transcripts/080221_dean_howard.htm#
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:22 AM
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1. You Gotta Love Dean...
He's smart & tough.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:27 AM
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3. Dean is still THE MAN!
And his 50-state strategy is gonna really pay off this time around, as it did in 2006!
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:26 PM
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35. Dean still "best" of the dems
All the DLC people are in bed with lobbyists and are not in a position to criticize McCain..

Hope Dean remains chairman of DNC for many years to come.
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:26 AM
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2. I am so happy Dean hammered McBush
this needs to be done as bluntly as Dean laid it out there on a daily basis.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:29 AM
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4. Why didnt you fuckers vote for this man for president!
What a missed oportunity!
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:33 AM
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8. He was seen as "too polarizing" and "unelectable"
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:37 AM
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11. I DID!!!
nt
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:03 AM
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22. I did!
:D
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:04 AM
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23. Speak for yourself, I cast my vote for Dean.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:16 AM
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28. I did.
And I volunteered.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:17 PM
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34. ok ok I give!
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:31 AM
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5. howard dean needs to just shut the hell up on this matter...
this is going to backfire on the ny whoretimes and the more that dean throws gas on the fire will come back and bite us in the ass.....so dean shut the hell up....
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:32 AM
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7. I don't think so
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:34 AM
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10. you are living proof that the dem party is a big tent!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:40 AM
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14. LOL
:rofl:
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:31 AM
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18. He said he has no idea if the report is true.
So how can this backfire on "us"?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:00 AM
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21. Tell me? How that Wall going?
That you are building around yourself with that statement?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:05 AM
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24. You step to Howard
you're stepping to me.

Just thought I'd let you know.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:34 AM
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29. wrong. About as wrong as you could get.
He's doing it exactly right. He's stepping back from the sex thing and hammering him on DOCUMENTED facts- that McCain is very cozy with lobbyists and pretends to be clean. That has nothing really to do with the story and is exactly the tact we need to take. You'd like everyone to sit back and treat him with kid gloves because you've made it clear that you prefer McCain to Obama. Not going to happen. We need to attack McCain every day. Dean is off to a great start.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:32 AM
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6. WOW!
perfect!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:33 AM
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9. Hi calo4..!!! DEAN FOR VICE PRESIDENT
He is our bulldog!!!!!!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:38 AM
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12. This is beautifully teed up for Obama
"This is a guy who has been in Washington for 25 years and wants to give us four more years of the same, and I don't think we need that."

Howard and Barack are going to work wonders together.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:58 AM
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20. Yes they are
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:39 AM
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13. You sorry twits didn't help elect this man as President four years ago.
...you sat on your pretty pink Democratic asses and shrieked that he was "unelectable". You posted charts and graphs and polls...and a lot of vitriolic whiny bullshit....claiming that the perfectly-coiffed, "palatable" Kerry was a better choice.

We get the government we deserve.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:41 AM
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15. I find myself feeling a sense of loss quite often.
We need to remember how quickly a candidate can be taken down from the lead. It was tragic.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:52 AM
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17. Again, we get the government we deserve.
This country doesn't want real change. It can't hope for better. It's allowed itself to be dumbed-down to the point where it doesn'r even understand the real issues.

Blame it on the government. Blame it on the educational system. Blame it on the media.

...the real blame lies with the people...and until people start caring enough to educate themselves, nothing is going to change.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:06 AM
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25. Speak for yourself.
I was in Iowa. I was in New Hampshire.

I was there. Ok?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:01 AM
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27. Broad-brush much? For many of us he was before he was in!!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:48 AM
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16. I love Howard
Always have, always will.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:42 AM
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19. you GO, Howard!
Love the Dean!
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:19 AM
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26. This is EXACTLY what I was waiting to hear
The Democrats can't allow McCain to get away with this "straight talk" "maverick" bs. If the media is failing to do its job, it's up to us to pound home these points.

And good for Dean to not get caught in the "did he or didn't he" trap. Whether McCain had sex with the lobbyist isn't the point. The point is the bigger picture of corruption and influence.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:03 AM
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30. To this day, I still don't know how America allowed Bush to attack Kerry...
...on his national service. I remember watching the Republican convention, and seeing all those hypocritical pricks with the purple heart Bandades and though to myself, "What the f*@k just happened?"
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:14 AM
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31. Howard nails it! As always.
I love him!
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:35 AM
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32. Howard Dean, best damn attack dog in the business
Focuses in on what can be proven and documented (McCain's relationship with lobbists in general) and discounts that which cannot be documented (McCain's alleged sexual relationship with one lobbyist in particular). He hits him on his strong point--perceived honest and maverick status. He doesn't say anthing he can't back up with facts.

I'm hoping Howard gets on some of the big shows to put this out in the open.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:54 AM
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33. DU thread about McCain's lobbyist buddies ...
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