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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:24 AM
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Newest Obama meme of the last few days. Their policy positions are
almost the same, then throw in something about inspiration.

THEIR POSITIONS ARE NOT THE SAME.

It's his campaign's way of trivializing all the work she's put into her positions. He copies and pastes a few of them and he pretends they're the same.

What crap.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:25 AM
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1. Cry
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:30 AM
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2. "He copies and pastes"...

Don't you mean "He xerox's"...
:)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:44 AM
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5. LOL!





Peace:thumbsup:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:34 AM
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3. That was HER position last year
That's how she tried to trivialize him. The policies are all the same, so you may as well go with the experience. People saw through it, and went with a new political climate with policies that will work for every day people and respect countries around the globe.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:00 AM
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4. It's not crap.
I didn't support either one of these candidates by a long shot, and still can't get enormously enthusiastic about either, though he or she will get my vote. Their positions aren't precisely the same, but on the broad spectrum from center to left, they're both fairly centrist, and similar in all but the most picayune details with a slightly wider wedge of daylight dividing them on health care.

It's great that you advocate for your candidate, but don't fall into the trap of demonizing the other candidate, especially when he wouldn't govern substantially differently from the way Senator Clinton would. Senator Obama's campaign is simply countering - quite well - the Clinton campaign's thrust toward framing Obama as a silver-tongued empty suit. This is hard-fought primary politics, all of it, and it's not been nearly as dirty as I feared it would be.

Since you mention trivializing, I suggest you might be trivializing Senator Obama, who stands a very good chance of being our nominee. Either of these candidates could do a very decent job as President. He, I think, might be able to do better than that, but we ought to be realistic about what the next President (a Democrat, for sure) can actually achieve.

Sorry if I seem preachy about this, but your post got me thinking about this more directly than I have since Kucinich & Edwards dropped out. There are appealing things about both the two remaining candidates, and less than appealing things as well. I barely hold onto any faith in the power of politics to again act as an agent of progressive change in my lifetime, and I don't expect any real progressive fireworks from either of the senators. I'll settle for incremental fixes, maybe a bigger fix here and there, and that will have to be enough for now.

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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:42 AM
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7. His approach to healthcare will let the crisis go unchecked. She
will tackle the problem head on and we will get universal care.

He has plans to move the Iraq war to Pakistan and send more brigades. He is quite similar to McCain in this issue.

She will begin withdrawing troops within 60 days.

He is on board to let NAFTA go on the way it is. Someone has a thread showing that he has taken his statement on this off his website in anticipation of the trek to Ohio.

She is going to stop everything in its tracks until something workable and fair can be brought to the table.

During the debate tonight he came around to her point of view on meeting with world leaders before the ground was properly prepared. He had originally said that he would meet without requirements.

Let's see, that covers foreign policy, the economy and health care, the basics.

They are not the same.


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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:45 PM
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8. You're making a caricature of his positions
and elevating hers to something carved on tablets and brought down from a mountaintop.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:28 AM
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6. They're Democrats
Their policies reflect that.
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