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Fri Feb-22-08 02:48 AM
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Is it just me or did Hillary suddenly get old tonight... |
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Mind you, she is not that much older than I am...
But it seems as if she was speaking from another time and another place...
I don't know...
It really is, I believe, a realigning election, a real time of change in the country...
I have lived through one...
This one seems to have a real sense of a bubble up phenomena instead of the trickle down approach that has infested DC since Ronnie took up the economic part of the deal...
It's late, I have been doing taxes and political campaign finance reports since this morning...
Took time out to watch the debate with Mrs. WCGreen while we ate hot dogs and beans...
I enjoyed this one...
There was a sense of unity in the air, a sense that the party was coming together...
I like that the primaries have lasted this long...
It's good for the party in the long run...
It's good for the country as well...
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:49 AM
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1. yeah and bill has aged 10 years in the last 2 months |
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I am seriously worried that he is going to get a heart attack
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:04 AM
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I share your concern. Bill has been looking a bit haggard of late.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:50 AM
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:55 AM
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Fri Feb-22-08 09:34 AM
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32. Hush, hush, keep it down now.... |
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Voices carry.
One of my favorite songs. :hi:
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:54 AM
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3. I think it finally hit her tonight |
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The bit at the end, and then later @ the Democratic headquarters, something's changed with her.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:56 AM
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6. later at the dem headquarters? |
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:01 AM
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8. On CNN, after the debate |
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She spoke @ the Democratic headquarters in Austin. She didn't cry but it seemed to me she was was putting on a brave face. And no, I am not going to slam her for that. I have never slammed her for having emotions.
I don't know if CNN will replay the bit.
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:11 AM
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Not looking to slam her for it. Thanks for the heads up.
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Fri Feb-22-08 08:03 AM
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said something has changed. She said Hillary was on the TODAY show this morning and she said something to the effect that they would see how things go but she did not say they were going to go ahead to all the states like she has said in the past.
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Fri Feb-22-08 02:56 AM
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5. I hope you and the Mrs. have separate sleeping arangements tonight! |
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Spot-on these primaries have been a wonderful thing for our country. Millions have had a chance to get involved and feel like they counted.
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:00 AM
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7. The political process has taken a beating over the last thirty |
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or so years...
Constant harping about politics as usual and then the people harping the most turn out to be dirtier than thou...
It's really stunning to me that the Republican party or the right wing has any juice at all...
I really think this election is going to produce 1964 like results...
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:13 AM
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14. from your lips to Gods ears. |
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If the turnout so far continues through the GE though we look good to go for years to come. Our base expanded exponentially this time around there is no denying it.
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:02 AM
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9. Yep, it's just you! Ithought sh did a good job tonight. Not great |
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enough to push Barack of the lead, but still good.
I also notices Barack looking disintersted and not really wanting to be there when Hillary was speaking. I hven't seen nyone else mention that, and I'm a bit suprised. Did you watch him? I voted for him on Super Tuesday, but I wasn't peased with his performance tonight.
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:25 AM
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16. I read that Obama has had a cold, and I thought he looked a little miserable. |
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:02 AM
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10. The pictures of her that are not airbrushed or carefully posed... |
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:18 AM
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She looks like a woman of 60.
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:40 AM
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20. ...who has been smoking too much or is eaten up by anger |
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that takes a toll on the looks too.
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:58 AM
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21. She's not the "smoker candidate." NT |
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Fri Feb-22-08 04:07 AM
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22. She doesn't smoke and she looked fine. |
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Fri Feb-22-08 05:03 AM
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I thought she looked great.
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Fri Feb-22-08 07:52 AM
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24. Speaking of eaten up by anger. The mirror must be a frightening thing for you. |
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Fri Feb-22-08 12:21 PM
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39. LOL. Probably the picture of Dorian Gray, bypassing the good-looking stage. n/t |
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:07 AM
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12. At the close she sounded |
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like she was ready to end things soon. I think she seems more tired and defeated than old. I think she knows that's almost over for her.
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:32 AM
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17. She looks like a 60-year old woman. |
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And mind you, 60 is not old. I know it SEEMS ancient to someone who is 20-something, but really, it's not.
I'm 60, and I remember thinking my mom, who was 35 when I was born, was decrepit. She wasn't, even though 60 today isn't the same as it was a generation ago.
I think Hillary looks great; she has a wonderful smile. Those wrinkles are badges of honor. And many 30 year olds envy her energy.
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Fri Feb-22-08 12:14 PM
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37. I didn't say she looked old... |
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I said she got old...
And then compared it to the energy of the Obama movement...
I'm sorry you missed the word...
Apparently, that caused you to insert your own words...
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:33 AM
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18. To her defense, she did have a cold. As did Barack. nm |
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Fri Feb-22-08 03:38 AM
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19. I didn't get that from her. |
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Bill on the other hand has not looked the same since his operation a few years back. I hope he slows down a bit...just for his sake.
Senator Clinton I felt looked fine and quite Presidential. So did Senator Obama. That last part when she reached out to him felt genuine to me. Senator Clinton is a tough person and a great politician. I think that America is seeking someone who is less of a politician at this time. That political savvy and her experience may perhaps be a weakness. It is when she softens from the politician to the caring woman that she makes the best gains...at least that is what I am noticing tonight. Remember when she softened to the point of almost crying for America earlier on in the campaign? Many feel that this is what got her the New Hampshire undecideds.
I think she did well at last night's debate, I think when she softened at the end, she may have increased her odds for a comeback. At this point though, I do not think it will be enough to stop the groundswell currently rallying around Senator Obama. I predict against the pundents and the poll takers, that Senator Obama will take Texas and Ohio on his way to the White House. I further predict that Senator Obama will beat Senator mCcain by a landslide, one which will make America quite pleased indeed.
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Fri Feb-22-08 07:57 AM
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Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 08:00 AM by DemGa
And it's amazing how you so easily weave a put-down into your other "niceties." It's the unity movement -- "change is in the air."
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Fri Feb-22-08 09:37 AM
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Fri Feb-22-08 12:12 PM
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I have been very critical of Obama over the past few weeks...
I have hardly said anything about HRC...
I put that comparison in there to connect her to the style of her campaign...
apparently, picking up on subtly is not one of your skills...
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Fri Feb-22-08 07:58 AM
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but that white powder under Obama's nose was really distracting...don't ya think?
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Fri Feb-22-08 09:42 AM
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35. Is that a really lame attempt at humor? |
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I certainly make lots of lame attempts at humor but the implication in your case is really nasty.
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Fri Feb-22-08 08:06 AM
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28. No, she showed wisdom and experience |
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and I do agree about the message of "re-alignment". She spoke of how the country and the economy got off track from the Clinton years and all we have to do is get it back on track.
I agree with Hillary, there's no need to reinvent the wheel with someone who is untried and inexperienced. This is a time for experience.
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Fri Feb-22-08 08:11 AM
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29. Squirming in her chair... |
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What I found interesting was the fact that Hillary was literally squirming in her chair when Obama was talking about her vote on the Iraq war. And as far as her inspirational (borrowed) closing statetment goes: perhaps if she had shown some leadership and stood up to Bush in the buildup to the Iraq war, she would not have had to witness the wounded soldiers that she found so inspiring.
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Fri Feb-22-08 08:16 AM
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31. I think more than anything it's that she's becoming resigned |
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To the fact that she's not going to get the nomination. Thus she has relaxed a bit, become looser and less careful about parsing every little thing that she says. She's seeing the writing on the wall, and while she will carry on until Texas and Ohio, unless she gets a miracle in those two states I wouldn't be surprised to see her drop out the following Wednesday.
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Fri Feb-22-08 09:39 AM
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34. I kind of got that feeling, too. |
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At one point, I just felt like she was old news, while Obama was fresh. Like she was 'been there, done that,' while he seemed to offer something new. It was just an intuitive flash, can't base it on anything logical or scientific.
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Fri Feb-22-08 12:17 PM
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38. It fits in with the Pendulum Theory |
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I think we go through massive swings of the pendulum every few decades.
One frame of thought becomes domonant and becomes the power. Eventually, the theory of entropy kicks in, and that frame deteriorates. Then reaction against it builds to a critical mass, and the pendulum swings again.
Ronnie was the last swing of the pendulum to the right. Now, finally, the gears of the pendulum are becoming unstuck and it is in the process of making a swing to the left.
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