We've been fighting these f*ckers since 2000

[boston bean]

and one of our major candidates is ready to work with these lunatics.

Yes, work on things you agree with, but not on the things you don't, there should be no compromise of our values.

I just can't believe people who have been on this board for years is falling for this lame bi-partisanship crapola.

If it is Obama in the end, he is gonna wake up one morning and wonder how he's going to get his agenda through and then my friends, the rubber hits the road. He will be a miserable failure. These people will never ever ever work with him.

[Hippo_Tron]

1. "My friends, the rubber hits the road"

Who are you, John McCain?

[boston bean]

2. yeah, i'm a big john mccain supporter.

:sarcasm:

[MethuenProgressive]

3. I am a Partisan Democrat. I want the GOP pounded into the ground.

I don't want a candidate they approve of. I want one they fear.

[Dark]

6. They fear Obama, because they know he'll win.

Hillary, they think they have a shot.

[calico1]

4. We should have learned by now how

"working with"Republicans turns out for us. It means Democrats give, give, give and get nothing in return. It means Democrats have to keep moving farther to the right in order to "work together." Just look at Leiberman and his wonderful example of "working with" REpublicans.

WE SHOULD NOW BETTER BY NOW!!!

:puke:

[NastyRiffraff]

5. There's NO compromising with these idiots

We've watched the attempt in Congress, and it never, ever works. When the Dems win in Congress it's because they STOOD UP to the maniacs on the Republican side.

This is the major reason I decided on Hillary after Edwards dropped out. I know she has her faults, but I also know she'll fight like a tiger when necessary.

[cali]

7. Fighting smart is more important than coming on all tough and

pugnacious. And Obama is a tough fighter. Anyone who can't see that by now is blind to the realities. He's able to confuse and disarm his foes in an effective way.

You just come off as horribly bitter and completely unable to actually analyze... anything. In post after post after post after post; ad nauseum.

He isn't suggesting compromising on a progressive agenda. He hasn't. Not once. Furthermore, President Obama will have a Senate with at least 55 dems and a House with 255+ dem reps. That's a working majority. It gets much harder in such circumstances for repukes to play the obstructionists.

And Hillary has run an epically BAD campaign. Shockingly bad. Oh, and she's actually talked about reaching across the aisle more than he has. He's referring largely to building a coalition of people to back him, not about compromising on key issues with repukes in the Congress.

Sour grapes seems to be your only sustenance. How sad is that?

[Lint Head]

8. Bush never worked with the Democrats and look at the

wonderful thinks h accomplished.:sarcasm:

When one of them is elected I think Obama or Hillary they should author a signing statement that throws the criminals that currently occupy our White House into jail. :dem:

[OzarkDem]

9. I agree

You can't compromise with criminals who are bent on destroying the country for their own benefit. This is not the time for reaching across the aisle.

Obama's inexperience means he feels insecure. That causes people to make mistakes and curry favor with those who would do us harm.

[tyne]

10. You guys sound like

Rush Limbaugh yesterday.

[mckeown1128]

17. Yes they do. nt

[OzarkDem]

18. I don't listen to Rush - you do?

And I can't imagine he would be promoting bipartisanship w/ crooked GOP leaders.

You should switch to another radio station or better yet, read a book.

[The_Commonist]

11. Ya know, they say WE'RE the lunatics...

...and judging from many of the comments on this board lately... well... just sayin'!

As much as I would like every single person who voted for George Walker Bush to be committed to an insane asylum, it's just not going to happen and we are going to have to figure out how to live live with them somehow.

What do you propose?

[depakid]

12. Hey, it's worked out so well with the Dem "leadership" In Congress

Why would it be any different with a Dem executive?

[mwb970]

13. I heard a clip of Rush saying there is no compromising with liberals.

He was attacking McCain for wanting a bipartisan approach, saying that Democrats are wrong on everything and must be confronted and fought forever. On our side, Obama is attacked because he wants a bipartisan, cooperative approach. Clearly, the louder, more extreme elements on both sides want - nay, demand - a continuation forever of the current polarization and scorched-earth politics that has been so successful and effective in recent years.

Some election! Screechers on both sides seem to hate their own candidate(s) just as much as they hate the other side's. Why? Apparently because they want to avoid any hint of cooperation between moderate elements of the only parties we have. Welcome to 21st-century America.

If you want to respond to this post by saying that Republicans can't be trusted, that we have to oppose everything they do, that they are destroying America, that we must confront the conservatives and fight and fight and fight and fight until they are finally gone and completely powerless, fine. Maybe you're right! Just be aware that if you were to change "conservative" to "liberal" and "Republican" to "Democrat", you would be quoting Rush Limbaugh. Word for word. You are arguing with a mirror.

[pampango]

20. Great point. Perhaps the only thing that Rush , Karl and others have convinced us of is that

"demonization works". We may not believe anything they say, but many on the left have adopted their tactics as valid. Ironically, this happens as there is a lot of sentiment on both the left and the right that these tactics have grown tiresome and ineffective.

Never admit that your opponent has a valid point of view, but yours is just better. Just accuse him or her of being a "left wing socialist" or a "right wing fascist" and you are practicing what passes for modern politics. Better yet, if you can find some aspect of his or her personal conduct that you can destroy them with, you are the true king or queen of modern political conduct.

:) Now the next time I listen to Rush (5 minutes is about the max I can handle), in my mind I will be transposing liberal/conservative and Republican/Democratic and see if he sounds like some DUers.

[still_one]

14. Most of the Democrats didn't work with bush, they CAVED IN

No one put a gun to their head and told them to vote for the IWR, the Patriot Act, etc.

Rubber-Stamping most everything the administration sent them, is not an act of working with them, and that is what many Democrats did

Your argument doesn't hold water if we win the executive branch, since most likely the Democrats will also control Congress

Unlike what happened, when the Democrats starting losing control of Congress during the Clinton term

[Benhurst]

15. You're missing the point.

We've moved from the New Deal into the the Touchie Feel era.

The Republicans are waiting in the wings to grasp our outstretched hands, sing a chorus or two of Kumbyyah and join with us in working for Truth, Justice and the American Way.

[demnan]

16. Agreed

And we should have bloody well impeached first Cheney and then Bush by now.

[crawfish]

19. Most R's are moderates who don't like where their party is heading...

As are most Democrats.

The message of unity is strong. Both sides truly care about the country, albeit in different ways. Each side has some valid points and concerns. People are sick and tired of partisanship.

Unity does not involve compromising with the R extremists. It involves franchising the more moderate side of that party. There is a reason McCain - a centrist - is winning their party's election over the more traditional conservatives. They are as sick and tired of their extremists as we are.

[saltpoint]

21. Goodness, goodness.

"The candidate I oppose will be a miserable failure if elected."

May the ghosts of Paine, Jefferson, and Madison haunt you.