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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:09 AM
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Hillary DID NOT PLAGARIZE Edwards.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 08:56 AM by Sensitivity
Unless you use the "Clinton Dictionary" definitiion of plagarism (side-by-side video link below).

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=107134

Hillary used some rhetoric which is a modified version of Edwards closing rhetoric.
Almost exactly what Obama did, except he used Patricks riff to defend from a Clinton attack on Patricks recommendation.

One wonders whether Edwards called Hillary and suggested she use his closing remark. If not, then she is obviously following different rules than she is relentlessly applying to Obama.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:11 AM
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1. Of course she didn't, she doesn't need to
Her closing statement was fantastic and summed things up perfectly.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:16 AM
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6. Her closing statement was
the beginning of a gracious goodbye. She deserves credit for it. It's a strong indication that she won't slash and burn after she loses TX, RI and VT. She may manage an OH win, but it's clear that she knows that's not enough and will withdraw, placing party and country over her personal ambitions.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:13 AM
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2. suace for the goose is sauce for the gander
oops, was that sexist?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:13 AM
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3. That's it
It's not about plagiarism; it's about hypocrisy, if anything.

The very idea that a politician invents political speech is nuts. That includes, well, all of them.
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:16 AM
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4. It wouldn't matter, to me, if she had. Obama's done worse.
His entire campaign theme is plagiarized and even his campaign motto is plagiarized. Bear in mind, every time you see the word "(Response)" during this speech, what you hear from the WHOLE audience is "YES WE CAN!"


"We are the party of Lyndon Johnson and the Great Society. We are the party of John F. Kennedy and the New Frontier. We are the party of FDR and the New Deal. We are the party of the people. We are the party whose president faced a broken nation--a nation of people without jobs, without homes, without health care, without retirement security--and he exhorted our people to have courage. Seventy years ago, FDR stood before a fearful nation and said, We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And he ignited a nation to reaching its promise and that brought almost a hundred new Democrats into the House. It enabled a sweeping mandate to bring deep, transformational change to our social, our political, and our economic structures.

It remade a government of the people and for the people. That kind of change is needed today. We can empower a new beginning.

Democrats, I remind you that we have nothing to fear but fear itself. We need a new faith in America and in ourselves. Faith that we can change the present condition; faith that we can change the outcome; faith that we can regain the confidence, the optimism, the whole world has identified with America; faith that it is the Democratic party that can once again lead the way to a better day, to a better America, to a better world.

Democrats, Democrats can move this country forward from a condition where of 8 million people out of work to a full employment economy with a living wage for all. If you believe our party can do that, let us tell this nation yes we can. (scattered response "Yes we can.").

...

Democrats can move this country forward from 40 million people without health insurance to a single payer system which provides quality health care for all. Do you believe we can do that? (Response).

Yes we can. Si se puede.

Democrats can move this country forward from underfunded schools, underpaid teachers, and undereducated youths to making education our top funding priority and providing free college education for all. Do you believe we can do that? (Response).

Democrats can move this country forward from a condition where our air, our water and our land is now being ruined
by multinational corporate interests; where we can demonstrate that environmental protection is our path to sustaining the life of the planet. Do you believe we can do this as a party? (Response).

Yes we can. Si se puede.



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http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/dnc0203/kucin022203spt.html
Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich
Democratic National Committee Winter Meeting
Washington, DC
February 22, 2003
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:16 AM
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5. Hypocrisy, thy name is Hillary. n/t
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:19 AM
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7. Um, yeah she did, and she sure "Xeroxed" Bill's 1992 line n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 08:20 AM by nickn777
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:21 AM
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8. You're right. Just like Obama didn't plagiarize Deval Patrick. Case closed. nt
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:28 AM
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9. Hillary Didn't Vote for the Iraq War Either
FOFLMAO! Koolaid is poisonous, you know?
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:38 AM
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10. "Unless you use the "Clinton Dictionary" definitiion of plagarism"--exactly the point
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:42 AM
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11. Let's go to the videotapes:
http://www.dailykos.com">Hillary Clinton Borrows Edwards Finishing Line

Hillary Channels Bill

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