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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:11 PM
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Obama once visited '60s radicals
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html



In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district’s influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde Park as local activists, they’re better known nationally as two of the most notorious — and unrepentant — figures from the violent fringe of the 1960s anti-war movement.

Now, as Obama runs for president, what two guests recall as an unremarkable gathering on the road to a minor elected office stands as a symbol of how swiftly he has risen from a man in the Hyde Park left to one closing in fast on the Democratic nomination for president.

“I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers’ house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,” said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the informal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. “ identified as her successor.”

Obama and Palmer “were both there,” he said.

Obama’s connections to Ayers and Dorhn have been noted in some fleeting news coverage in the past. But the visit by Obama to their home — part of a campaign courtship — reflects more extensive interaction than has been previously reported.

Neither Ayers nor the Obama campaign would describe the relationship between the two men. Dr. Young described Obama and Ayers as “friends,” but there’s no evidence their relationship is more than the casual friendship of two men who occupy overlapping Chicago political circles and who served together on the board of a Chicago foundation.


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But Obama’s relationship with Ayers is an especially vivid milepost on his rise, in record time, from a local official who unabashedly reflected a very liberal district to the leader of national movement based largely on the claim that he can transcend ideological divides.

In one sense, Obama’s journey toward the cultural and political center is not unusual among national politicians. But its velocity is.

Politicians of an earlier generation had their own relationships with figures now far to their left. Hillary Rodham Clinton, for instance, interned at a radical San Francisco law firm while in law school.

On the other side of the political spectrum, many in the generation before hers shifted dramatically on civil rights. John McCain voted against creating a holiday to honor Martin Luther King Jr. and later called that a mistake.

The relationship with Ayers gives context to his recent past in Hyde Park politics. It’s milieu in which a former violent radical was a stalwart of the local scene, not especially controversial.

It’s also a scene whose liberal ideological features — while taken for granted by the Chicago press corps that knows Obama best — provides a jarring contrast with Obama’s current, anti-ideological stance. This contrast between past and present — not least the Ayers connection — is virtually certain to be a subject Republican operatives will warm to if Obama is the Democratic nominee.

The tension between the present and recent Chicago past is also evident in some of his positions on major national issues. Many national politicians, including Clinton, have moved toward the center over time. But Obama’s transitions are still quite fresh.

A questionnaire from his 1996 campaign indicated more blanket opposition to the death penalty, and support of abortion rights, than he currently espouses. He spoke in support of single-payer health care as recently as 2003.

Like many of the most extreme figures from the 1960s Ayers and Dohrn are ambiguous figures in American life.

They disappeared in 1970, after a bomb — designed to kill army officers in New Jersey — accidentally destroyed a Greenwich Village townhouse, and turned themselves into authorities in 1980. They were never prosecuted for their involvement with the 25 bombings the Weather Underground claimed; charges were dropped because of improper FBI surveillance.

Both have written and spoken at length about their pasts, and today he is an advocate for progressive education and a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago; she’s an associate professor of law at Northwestern University.

But — unlike some other fringe figures of the era — they’re also flatly unrepentant about the bombings they committed in the name of ending the war, defending them on the grounds that they killed no one, except, accidentally, their own members.

Dohrn, however, was jailed for less than a year for refusing to testify before a grand jury investigating other Weather Underground members’ robbery of a Brinks truck, in which a guard and two New York State Troopers were killed.

“I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough,” Ayers told the New York Times in 2001.

And their rehabilitation in establishment circles, even in Hyde Park, has its limits.

Though he is a respected figure in liberal educational circles, Ayers wrote recently about how in 2006 he was informed he was persona non grata at a progressive educators’ conference in the summer of 2006.
“We cannot risk a simplistic and dubious association between progressive education and the violent aspects of your past,” he quoted the conference organizers, whom he described as friends, as writing to him.

But the couple has been embraced, by and large, in the liberal circles dominating Hyde Park politics.

“Bill Ayers is one of my heroes in life,” said Sam Ackerman, a longtime local activist. “I knew Tony Rezko, and he ain’t no Rezko.”

But others in Hyde Park, whose intellectual and political life revolves around the University of Chicago, view the couple with ambivalence.



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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:12 PM
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1. Yay for Joe McCarthy! n/t
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:12 PM
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2. .
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:13 PM
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3. Yeah, he probably picked his nose once, too. Let's blow THAT up to a Big Deal,
while we're at it.

Redstone
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:16 PM
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7. yeah no biggie huh
I dont you understand 'why' this could possibly be bad. Or 'why' the right wing will sop this shi* up with a bisquit.......


When you lie in bed with bad people and shi*.......Johnson 67
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:17 PM
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10. Why are you a member at DU?
Seriously? You come here, post negative stuff about Obama and leave again.
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:18 PM
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12. I aint goin nowhere...
So let's play
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:23 PM
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21. Uh huh
:hi:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:21 PM
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16. DU is a "big tent" place, remember? We welcome even monomaniacs and people
with spelling challenges.

Well, I'm not sure if "welcome" might not be too broad a term; but the admins do tolerate them.

And you gotta admit that they're fun for a bit of sport, at least until they get to be tiresome.

Redstone
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:18 PM
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11. The word "Category" only has one letter A in it.
Redstone
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:20 PM
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14. never was good with words
in fact borderline dyslexia (sp.)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:22 PM
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19. Nah, you're OK. You spelled "dyslexia" just fine.
Redstone
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:13 PM
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4. And then he jumped in the back of a limo
...to do some hookers and blow with a toothless cab driver. It was awesome!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:31 PM
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27. And didn't invite me! Now, THAT's just unforgivable.
Redstone
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:45 PM
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32. He saved some for you
And he baked you a pie. :hi:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:53 PM
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34. Somehow, I knew he'd do the right thing in the end. Even though he gave Fidel Castro
my share of the cocaine, there in that taxi.

Redstone
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:55 PM
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35. And the cab driver got him some dentures
Thanks to the amazing health care system in Cuba.

And they all lived happily ever after.

Then end.

:)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:00 PM
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38. DENTURES!?? Hang on a minute, I gotta go start a thread about DENTUREGATE!!!!
Redstone
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:08 PM
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40. Noooo!
Don't! Obama will bake you a second pie! Pleeeze! Don't tell!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:16 PM
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43. Sorry, the dentures are TOO IMPORTANT!! I absolutely MUST expose those
PopeObamaOsamaAndHisMamaBOTS for who they REALLY are...Toothists, every ONE of them!

It's my patriotic duty.

Redstone
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:21 PM
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46. Toothists?
The Gum delegation would like to have word with you. What have you got against babies and old people, Redstone? Why do you hate America's most adorable people? Hmmm?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:41 PM
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48. I hate everyone, not just adorable people. Hey, it's been a LOT of fun hanging out with you,
but I gotta go for a while. Life intrudes, as it always seems to.

Thank you so much for the pleasant interchange; it's been getting harder and harder to find one of those around here lately.

Keep up the good work!

Redstone
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:14 PM
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5. And his middle name is Hussein!
ZOMG!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:15 PM
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6. HRC did too!
In fact by the RW standards of those mailing that garbage - she and Bill had long enough hair - that he WERE 60s radicals. Back then, Obama was just a cute little kid - who they wouldn't have liked either.
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:17 PM
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9. Cocaine?
Who did coca?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:19 PM
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13. *ahem* Your motives are showing. nt
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:17 PM
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8. Obama did____________________once!!!
the bast'd should quit the race right now, go away, and never be heard of or seen again!!
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:22 PM
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17. is politico rw crap?
If so I wonder why obama supporters are clipping from them left and right.
Funny how Clinton gets nailed all up and down this forum, yet Obama is untouchable. Freakin amazing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:26 PM
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22. This is Ben Smith's attempt at an expose that is about as silly as Hillary calling Obama too liberal
and then attacking him for his Reagan comment.

Which is he: Flaming liberal of Republican appeaser?

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:29 PM
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26. He TOUCHED himself! You know, THERE! Teacher, Teacher, Barack said "fuck" again!
And he took his shoes off without untying them! And skipped a dentist's appointment! And forgot to say "thank you" once at dinner, when someone passed him the mashed potatoes! And put salt on his food before tasting it!

And I bet there's LOTS more SIGNIFICANT DIRT on him, JUST LIKE THESE THINGS!

Oh, you got a BIG BLANK for people to fill in, right there. (And the pity of it is, that there actually people here who won't understand your post.)

Redstone
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:21 PM
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15. And now he's inspiring 21st century radicals
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:22 PM
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18. LOL! n/t
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:23 PM
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20. Why do you post right wing hit pieces here?
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:28 PM
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24. is it right wing?
because it is about obama? What about Hillary? Is it right wing when many DU'ers slam her daily? Or is it all fair? Damn, alot of yall are hipocrites. Look at the topics in this forum. Count the hits on Hillary and then compare with obama. Get back with me when you get the answer because I already have it. I think you'll be suprised.

Freakin tools
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:35 PM
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29. Uh, if all the people here are "freakin tools" in your lofty estimation, why are YOU here?
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 03:36 PM by Redstone
Somehow, I don't think you're going to convince anyone that you actually "have the answer" (to whatever "the question" is).

Just a guess on my part. But have fun whacking your head against the wall, anyway. I'd suggest an ice pack on your forehead when it starts to hurt. And two Ibuprofen.

Redstone
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:27 PM
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23. I spent several hours with a notorious murderess when I was a cop.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 03:27 PM by Vinca
That doesn't make me guilty of anything. Some of these posts are incredibly dumb.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:29 PM
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25. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #23
30. I guess Mr Catagory put YOU in your place, yes? Are you sufficiently humbled?
Redstone
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:08 PM
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41. I notice his hobby is "making money." How Repub. can you get? nt
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:19 PM
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44. Uh, huh. I absolutely GUARANTEE you that someone who claims to have that as a hobby,
doesn't actually have much of it. So it's a bullshit claim on two fronts, indicating Republicanism or not.

Redstone
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:32 PM
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28. nice try....i meant her in 1969 at the sds headquaters in chicago
by the way this terrorist is now doing this

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/clinic/dohrn/dohrn.html
Bernardine Dohrn, Bluhm Legal Clinic, Faculty Profiles, Faculty & Research, School of Law, Northwestern University

when you write shit about the 60`s you`d better do a little research.....
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. no nostaglia intended...but we could use some 60's energy these days...
but, like Hunter Thompson wrote:"...you could see the wave break..."
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:45 PM
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33. Bernardine Dohrn is an attorney now? Christ, I guess America is STILL "the place
where you can always start over and turn your life around."

Not one molecule of sarcasm in that sentence I just wrote, either. Thanks for posting that information.

Redstone
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. Actually, she has not been admitted to the Illinois Bar
because of her criminal background. She does teach at Northwestern, and has always been an advocate for children.

Ayers comes from a very privileged background. His father was CEO of Commonwealth Edison. I have always wondered if his father's influence helped them get back into mainstream life after their years underground. I admire both of these 60's icons.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:57 PM
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36. That son of a bitch
still owes me money from the time we were supposed to go halfsies on the gay hookers and and eight ball.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:02 PM
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39. You, too? I think I see a PATTERN developing here.
Redstone
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:12 PM
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42. Let this be a warning to all.
If he manages gay hooker limo coke parties like that. Imagine what he'll do to this gigantic magnificent gay limo hooker coke party we know as the US of A.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:21 PM
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45. Guess where the story came from
Hillary's campaign

Unbelievable!


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:37 PM
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47. well she was a goldwater girl in those years..no wait...
she worked for the most liberal democrat at that time...no wait..6 months later she worked for the most conservative republican of that time....confusing is`t it.

really a low blow to drop a dime on obama when she knew these people have done a lot of good since then...but that`s hillary..the girl who never understood the 60`s movement
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:48 PM
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49. Last night, beautiful full moon
but I thought I saw this!



Yup, flying poo flinging monkeys!
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catagory5 Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:06 PM
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51. Hey Redstone
"making money" is a joke. You know what thay is right? As in, I don't think it is anyones Biz on this site nor any other that I visit to know my hobbies. (unless I divulge) Nor would I brag about making $$$ when I am the typical middle class American. That is why I support Hillary and not the other guy.

like I said before, It's ok for many to slam Hillary but when fragile obama gets some the masses go crazy.............*waiting for the next post to prove it*












Told ya!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:43 PM
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54. Uh, excuse me? If you don't think your hobbies are anyone's business, why would you
put those hobbies in your profile?

Generally, when people would rather not have everyone else know a specific thing about them, they don't put the information about that specific thing on the Internet.

Redstone
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #51
64. Actually, I don't know what your hobbies are
never looked at your profile (except in the moon-lite last night)...

thay is really they.

why would you "brag" about money?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:04 PM
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50. Who hasn't? I was in the presence of Stokely Carmichael , Leroy Jones
and H. Rap Brown back in the day when was ten years old. But still... :silly:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:40 PM
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52. No kidding? That right there is a story I'd LOVE to hear, and I bet a lot of others would too.
Not that I've ever been a "revolutionary" type (it's easier to just be a wiseass), but I'd thnk that having been in that situation has GOT to be a hell of a thing for you to be able to look back upon.

If you've ever written about it anywhere, I'd appreciate it if you'd supply a link.

(Adding the obligatory disclaimer, given the atmosphere around DU lately: No sarcasm in what I said above.)

Redstone
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:51 PM
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67. No biggie. I was ten as I said. I lived in Newark and one of my best
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:54 PM by Kahuna
friends was a man in his late 30s (my father would have killed me :scared:) who was a community organizer. I knew who LeRoi Jones (nka: Imiri Baraka) from the News. Jones lived around the corner from me and also was friends with the community organizer. So, Stokely and Carmichael came to the hood a couple of times and held some rallies. That's is all.

The bigger story is, what was a ten year old girl doing with a 38 year old friend. ;)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:57 PM
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68. But still. Exciting times, and all that. Even if you didn't realize it back then.
And I'll not go NEAR your "bigger story." I'm sure I don't have to tell you that almost NOBODY would believe you when you say that was just "friendship."

But I believe you, even if nobody else does. I've seen such, and people can just hush their dirty minds if they don't think it's possible.

Redstone
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:16 PM
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71. I did realize it. I was very impressed to be in their presence. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:40 PM
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53. Finally, something to like about him!
Thanks!
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:45 PM
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55. '60s radicals changed the world
makes me like him even more
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:55 PM
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57. Do you think that the OP has realized by now, that he's done something anatomically impossible?
As in, bitten himself on his own ass? Probably not.

Redstone
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. frankly, I don't think much at all of the OP
but THAT is nothing new
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:09 PM
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62. Ah, but you must at least appreciate the OP's acrobatic ability. How easy is it, after all,
to bite oneself on one's own ass?

I've tried it, and couldn't.

Redstone
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:09 PM
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63. I once dated a Hooter's Waitress who could
a sight to behold let me tell you friend
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:10 PM
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65. Whoa. Still got her phone number around, by any chance?
Redstone
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:48 PM
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56. This came from the Clinton campaign. It was pushed by the Clinton campaign.
Of course, Bill pardoned some domestic terrorists, so, you know, this nasty hit has now bitten them in the butt:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1

Karma and all.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:57 PM
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59. McCarthyite tactics - goody
I really hope she loses now, because I couldn't stand to vote for her in November after this.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 05:59 PM
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60. First, you need to shorten this post per fair use rules.
No more than 4 paragraphs, then link the rest.

Second, your deep concern is duly noted. :sarcasm:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:02 PM
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61. Far out, man. Here's what it all means.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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66. Hillary Lived In a Lesbian Commune One Summer
So what?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:21 PM
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:08 PM
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70. I'm getting really tired of....
So-called Democrats trashing a Democrat for political gain, saying that this is what the big bad wolf Republicans will do for political gain. If so, what is the difference?

Ayers is a professor at the UofI now, forchrissakes. There are no warrants out for his arrest. He no longer is part of an Underground (unless he posts here!).

Would the Reps use this against Obama? Well, their free market research is being done by the likes of posters right here who want to bash Obama with anything and take cover behind the Repubs who wuld alledgedly do the same thing.

I really wonder about the priorities here....are we helping the Democratic Party for helping do the Repukes' swift boating for them at no cost?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:33 PM
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73. Whoa. Hard (and legitimate) questions you ask, right there.
It would be great if you got some answers, but I don't have much hope of THAT happening.

Redstone
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:44 PM
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74. Thanks for helping the cause, Hillary - this is why progressives love you!
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