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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:06 PM
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I see that one of the more vicious Obama supporters has bit the dust on DU.
Anyone else from either side no longer with us? I sometimes check the people on my ignore list, but so far, only one has departed.
Anyway, can we have a talk about this WITHOUT it turning into a bloodbath? :hi:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=195237
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:08 PM
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1. Thank you mods
:applause:

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:11 PM
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7. agreed...it'll make things a little more bearable around here.
but i still miss proud2beamurkin :cry:
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:14 PM
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15. I thought he was funny more then anything else
proud2beamurkin was a little uninformed, (that's a good PC way to put it), so his posts were funny because they were kind of off the wall.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:18 PM
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21. I agree with you
He was so off the wall to be amusing. I miss him too.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:24 PM
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28. He was SMART and funny and civil. That irked some I guess.
.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:34 PM
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49. You obviously weren't the fortunate recipient of one of his nasty PMs.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:39 PM
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57. No. Didn't know he was making them. Bi-polar, maybe?
.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:40 PM
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59. I don't know.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:41 PM
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62. I got a PM from him once and it was civil and funny.
Nothing wrong with his politics either.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:43 PM
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64. You weren't one of his "opponents," though.
So, see, there's a difference.

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:53 PM
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70. Whats most interesting is the hyperpartisans
cheering his demise are all already on my ignore list.

Score one for Team Ignored!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:12 PM
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94. His demeaning comments were NOT appreciated.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:16 PM
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18. he's gone?
I need to take him off my ignore list then.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:54 PM
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73. We all will
:rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:27 PM
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117. That one's on my ignore list
..you mean he's gone as in no more?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:08 PM
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2. Not familiar with the poster
What did he do?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:25 PM
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29. Uhh, let's say he was very creative in his antagonism towards Obama.
He actually was very entertaining, and I'll miss him. He was kind of outrageous. I was surprised that anyone would find him so offensive as to get him tombstoned.

It's just really hard to describe what he was like. Proud2BAmurkin wasn't that bad, he did have several people buy him a Valentine's heart.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:26 PM
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33. He was a TOTAL OBAMA SUPPORTER...do you kids need glasses?
Wha?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #33
44. Edit, oops, I see my mistake.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:34 PM by Straight Shooter
I thought senseandsensibility was talking about P2BA, I lost track of the thread.

:hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:37 PM
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55. Don't worry about it...I thought the "OP" was saying he was a Hillary Supporter!
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:38 PM by KoKo01
Aye....I need to find my own "reading glasses."

Anyway...he was "too full of himself." Even though he was an extremely sharp character...who seemed to verify himself with an "in crowd" that many on this site couldn't identify with ...which is what gave him his "creds" ...None of Us could go at him...for his HUBRIS! He thought he was "Above all of us" with his Harvard Stuff.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:40 PM
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61. Only recently - he was an avid Edwards supporter till about 2 weeks ago.
.
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Adams Wulff Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:08 PM
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91. The hearts were a hoax
He had ten originally, and copied and pasted the hearts GIF into his Photobucket account. BAM! Instant 150 hearts.

He was a fraud.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:52 PM
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119. Oh, I was aware of the .gif image. He wasn't the only one who used it.
Ten hearts? Amazing.

I still miss him. :)
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #91
125. Hey, he had like 50 hearts which I knew were fake which made him that much more intertaining
I mean, he was a poster you just had to laugh at and then go on. :)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:08 PM
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3. Wow
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:09 PM
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4. Well, it was only a matter of time...
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:10 PM by Bicoastal
...sometimes I think each post on GDP should be followed by a 1 minute warning--"Are you SURE you want to post this? Not too late to change your mind!!"
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:10 PM
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5. yes, that one, like KennedyGuy, indulged in too much viciousness
and in the end it came back to bite.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:47 PM
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67. Kennedyguy gone (!) I didn't know that...
GOOD! Now I can remove him off my ignore list. KG was so bad he told me if I didn't like his nastiness to put him on ignore. I guess I need to check my ignore list periodically. I'm sure just about all of them on it will eventually be TSed.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:50 PM
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84. I've put some real winners on there. So far, he's the only one to eat granite.
I'm sure some of the others will follow suit.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:02 AM
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129. He's gone?
Shit. I'm too lazy to put people on ignore, so I don't even notice these things.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:10 PM
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6. Not familiar with the poster


What did he do?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:11 PM
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9. just consistently vicious and nasty in OP's and threads.
i guess he posted one too many.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:11 PM
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8. Wow. I had at least one interesting conversation with him.
To be honest, he wasn't one of the ones I noticed, but I'm not all that observant.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:12 PM
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there are other obama supporters that i feel are more vicious...
and of course, some rather nasty hillary supporters as well still kicking around.
i do remember thinking to myself that some of his posts and threads seemed beyond the pale.
his last couple took it over the edge.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:12 PM
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10. Thank you mods!
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:12 PM
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11. Now that's a surprise
wonder what happened?

dg
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:12 PM
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12. He was an Edwards supporter. Came to Obama only recently.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:16 PM by blm
But I thought he was quite civil even when he was teasing hard.

I remember when GodBushandCheney was tombstoned precipitously in 2003 - that would be Andy Stephenson to those who signed on in 2004.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:14 PM
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95. the old 'come to Obama" type huh. te he
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:25 PM
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135. I agree - he was almost always more than civil
except to one or two people who were very un-civil to him. He also knew what he was talking about.

(I'm not talking about proud, I'm talking about the one who is featured in the OP.)

Are people really allowed to call out and insult someone who has been tombstoned on here? David was a great guy and a good friend. I'll miss him very much, and I think it's DU's loss.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:13 AM
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138. self delete. responded to wrong post.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 01:14 AM by casus belli
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:13 PM
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13. He was not vicious ..he's nice..
I have all the vicious ones on Ignore.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:33 PM
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47. He is Extremely Bright....predicted he had "insider info" Cheney would be gone
about six months ago ...he's a huge GLBT...Activist and is very "likeable" on many levels... He claims he went to Harvard and is with the "In Crowd" in DC..

He is so WITTY and INTELLIGENT...he just was for sure going to get the "Granite Chicklet." I read him...but he got "too full of himself" about Obama. He was baiting and "gloating" about Hillary Demise so that it got so extreme it was very offensive to, even those who read and appreciated his viewpoints.

DU has always been a site that "Smites Down...those who get too "full of themselves."

I would like to see him post again in a "chastised version, though." He did give a certain OOMPH to the level of discussion on DU.

Just my opinion.....
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:14 PM
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96. He's Been on My Ignore List For a Week or More
I only see him when we're on alerts now.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #13
74. funny how bizzarro land it has become around here.
Score One For Team Ignored!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #74
77. Bizarroland since hilaryland
hit the campaign trail.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:13 PM
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14. My dear Elrond Hubbard...
I knew that poster well, but only in the Lounge...

He was unfailingly sweet to me over there...

I never read his posts in this forum...

And I am sorry to see that his behavior was so egregious as to merit his TS'ing...

I truly miss him...in the Lounge...

No bloodbath from me...

Just sorrow that he is gone...

I understand what you're saying, of course...

:hi:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:15 PM
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16. well, i know that i get much more feisty in here than i ever would in the lounge...
well, i just was wondering if anyone else of note has gone the way of the dodo.
like to keep fresh with the gossip, after all. :D
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:15 PM
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17. eh, I could take or leave
He had a lot of good info in the links he usually supplied, but yeah vicious.

I feel weird being me, and judging other DUers as vicious.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:17 PM
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19. haha, i guess i'm no rose myself...
i think there are many posters who deserved it more than he did.
i'm waiting to see if some of them are also purged.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:26 PM
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31. He sent PM threats and other REALLY UGLY stuff to people.
He got what he deserved. I salute the mods in finally seeing what a disruptive force he was here.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:27 PM
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35. ah, so it was for pm threats.
figured as much, since his posts themselves weren't THAT bad.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:30 PM
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39. Well, that and an assortment of other stalkerish and disruptive stuff.
Posted publicly that he was saving his "opponents'" post to use against them later in political debate. He tried to intimidate people through PMs to shut them up. I guess enough people finally alerted on his PMs.

For instance, one poster posted something in the lounge. He dredged up a lounge post to use in political debate. Tried to embarrass and intimidate people to shut them up.

It was stalkerish and disruptive.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:32 PM
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45. ah, so that was the one who was doing those behaviors.
that's unacceptable.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #17
54. you are extremely sharp witted. So much so, it makes me a little jealous.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:47 AM
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133. It was a game.
To begin with, he had interesting shit. He reminds me of a great nimber of deliberate disruptors who send DUers on long, convoluted, useless wild-goose chases. It's a fairly old scheme.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:17 PM
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20. wow
Well, I could see he was going over the edge with the anti-posts, but wow.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. yea, i was somewhat surprised.
maybe some others are soon to join him?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:23 PM
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26. I dunno
It's been insane here. Good people saying things that just shouldn't be said. From both sides.

I wish I could say I have been an angel, but I been flaming right along. I would like to think that I have mostly been a defender than an offender but I'm sure there are those that would disagree.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:20 PM
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23. Yes, the ignore feature is wonderful! I guess they just talk to themselves...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:21 PM
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24. What did he do now?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:23 PM
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25. And adabsfree or whatever the name was.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:29 PM
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36. not familiar with that one.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:31 PM
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40. The one who was making sick jokes about domestic violence.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #40
72. Yeah
wishing Obama would beat Clinton like Ike Turner. Sick stuff.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #72
85. wtf? good riddance to bad garbage then.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:19 PM
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98. ick
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #72
106. I remember that thread. It was just a couple of days ago.
I was able to get out a situation in which I was a battered wife and to read a post making light of all the times I got my a$$ beat up gave me flashbacks!
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:24 PM
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27. Maybe you can steer me towards his vicious remarks? I've never seen one!
He was a well-educated and prolific poster, had a wicked sense of humor, and a flair for research and writing. I never ever read any personal attack he made toward another, although his position against a HRC presidency was well known.

I've done a search, even in the archives, and while I did find the thread wherein a mod announced him as being "six-feet under", there were no deleted posts in that thread, nor any other I could find. Perhaps someone here can show me how the ex-poster in question was vicious:

1. addicted to or characterized by vice; grossly immoral; depraved; profligate
2. given or readily disposed to evil
3. reprehensible; blameworthy; wrong
4. spiteful; malicious
5. unpleasantly severe
6. characterized or marred by faults or defects; faulty; unsound: vicious reasoning.
7. savage; ferocious
8. (of an animal) having bad habits or a cruel or fierce disposition: a vicious bull.
9. Archaic. morbid, foul, or noxious.

I for one will miss the man.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. We can't post PMs, but he sent a lot of people some really nasty stuff.
Including threats and stalking behavior.

Mods did the right thing.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:29 PM
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37. Good enough then, thanks.

:cry:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #34
60. What Did He Say In The PM ?
I'm curious...
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:41 PM
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63. I can't post that.
It was nasty, insulting, and threatening. And it wasn't just one PM or one person he targeted.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:46 PM
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66. I Hate To Sound Like A Gossip Which I Can Be At Times But Can I Have The Cliff Notes?
Physically threatening?
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:42 AM
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132. I've been mighty outspoken at times and not always taken the most popular view, but
in 3-1/2 years, I have NEVER BEFORE had to block someone's PMs, til that one. So I know where yer coming from.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:37 AM
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136. You and me both.
He was a good friend, I only saw him be less than nice to one or two people who were less than nice to him. Most people who posted unkind things, he ignored or tried to reason with. I stuck up for him one night, because he was attacked by someone who was apparently homophobic, and he ignored the poster's vile post.

He is one of the kindest people I've ever met on the internets - he was the first to PM me a couple of weeks ago, when my sister-in-law passed away, he offered his telephone #, and was so sincere, and actually called me several days later. If people didn't agree with what he posted, I saw him try to reason with them SO many times - I certainly would have given up.

There are a lot of nasty posts and vile accusations in this thread, and they make me sick. Apparently, no one can even offer a glimpse into the pm's he's accused of sending, but they're accepted as fact, anyway. I have to wonder if he received the same type of pm's, or if the recipients are exaggerating. I guess I'll never know, but I do know that this thread disgusts me. Celebrating the TS'ing of someone you don't agree with in a public forum, making accusations that they can't respond to - it's just wrong.

I also believe it's against DU rules to post a thread, and responses like this, but hey, enjoy yourselves - it's really great fun to tear someone apart when they aren't allowed to respond, I guess.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:25 PM
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30. Some DUers feel bulletproof, they flame away and leave countless 'post removed's behind.
Seems to me it takes *a lot* to get kicked off. But DrUles aren't always clear to me. I responded once to a posted picture of dog poop by posting a picture of bull poop, and my post was the one removed. Gotta remember that one: doggy doo OK, pasture patty NoNay!
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:26 PM
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32. it depends on who alerts and how many times.
:shrug:
and we don't know what they were potentially doing in PM.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:29 PM
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38. Now, that would be very disappointing if true.
I'd like to think mods look at the posts objectively, and are not swayed by who it was that alerted, or how many partisans were summoned by email to hit alert.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:32 PM
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43. i'm just thinking that it's a matter of time constraints.
mods are overworked as it is, and in primary season it's especially bad.
i just don't think they have enough time to get EVERY bad post, since i've seen plenty that were absolutely FOUL, and they stayed up despite alerts from me...
so
i think it's just a time issue.
could be wrong. :shrug:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:33 PM
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48. I Can't Stand Posters Like That!!!
:yoiks:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:34 PM
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50. You need to know ....that ALL OF US...are on the Granite Chicklet Watch....
Just remember that....
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:36 PM
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52. i'm sure. but i don't think there have been any surprises so far...
in who has been shown the door.
i think there might be a purge after the nominee is chosen, depending on who will be able to play nice, and who is going to continue to be vicious.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:31 PM
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41. Isn't That Awesome? And It Ain't The Spam Filter This Time Either! LOL
I know he had his fans here, but I'm not sure I've ever been more annoyed by someone.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:31 PM
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42. Well, toodles to that one.
He was great for a long time, very thoughtful, but lately something changed in the way he posted. Too much negative, not enough positive. As he was a former Edwards supporter, I was really taken aback. They tend to be some of the most nicest members of this board, IMHO. YMMV.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:50 PM
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69. He DID CHANGE......and became VICIOUS...
One wonders what his agenda was. He was a GLBT'er...but as he went along his predictions from his "insider stuff" proved FALSE...and he suddenly thought he was the SOLE AUTHORITY because of his HARVARD BACKGROUND on whether Hillary or Obama would win.

He started trashing Hillary...scoffing the Clintons..(in hindsight, I have a LOT of problems with them, also) and just kept posting more and more BIZARRE POSTS about how cutely intelligent..he was and how we should all here on this BOARD "fall down" before him in his "infinite wisdom."

He deserved that Granite Stone....

He got arrogant and actually started to sound like an "Operative" for something. I liked him, though. Appreciated his humor, intelligence and wit.

But...Hell... aren't all the "DC THINK TANKS who led us into IRAQ ..FILLED WITH WITTY MANIPULATORS?"

This is what worried me about him. That saying he was from "Harvard and GLBT" gave him CREDS to mow down everyone who didn't agree with him on DU...because we weren't as "educated as he was." He didn't say this "outright" but it was always "implied" and a "put down" in his posts here on DU in the last couple months.

I did like him...but I'm not sorry he got the "STONE"...Good folks have gotten that "STONE" here for many less rants and such than he did. AND ...they were MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE than he ever was....

just saying.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:53 PM
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71. .
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 07:16 PM by Maddy McCall
My apologies for responding to you.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:04 PM
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79. You know, Maddy...I DO BELIEVE he was a GENIUS...
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 07:05 PM by KoKo01
but didn't alot of Geniuses lead us into Iraq War? Haven't they FUCKED UP AMERICA with their THINK TANK...HARVARD/YALE/PRINCETON and Georgetown, George Mason, University of Chicago et. al....alliances with the Religious RIGHT Southern Fundie Baptists?

You don't know where' I've been in my life..and what I know about this...but...he was really getting OTT to the point one wondered "who he was working for."

But...Maddy...I don't have "peeps or friends on DU" and I'm not paid by anyone...believe it, or not...and ALL DU'ers who post...make me wonder about "why they are here"...including YOU...

so...let's just say ...i'm a skeptic.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:32 PM
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82. I think I became most annoyed when he started speaking Latin.
:)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:33 PM
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46. I'm not so sure he supported Obama more than his own brand of sociopathy.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:35 PM
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51. Exactly.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:36 PM
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53. there are some on both sides that i feel are like that.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:38 PM
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56. I don't know. I've not ever seen anyone pride themselves in hatred of Hillary.
There are some here who have no qualms about posting that they hate Hillary.

But, beyond politics, there's just a level of civility that should be expected at DU. This person was unable to maintain that level.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:39 PM
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58. He was a wealth of information
and when he was behind Edwards he seemed fine but I recently noticed he was getting pretty mean with the threads against Hillary once he switched over to Obama.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:45 PM
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65. Correction, he was an Edwards supporter
by the way, you seem happy in the demise of a long time DUer, I just hope

the mods don't let newbies take over the show.

People coming and acting as if they are liberals but have other

agendas....I have never experience public glee in an old time

DUer being tombstoned. I might be missing something. Glee on freepers

yes, but not Democratic DUers...anyway thats how I feel, I don't expect

you to understand.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:48 PM
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68. No, he was an Obama supporter at the time of his demise.
But the reason for his tombstoning had nothing to do with the candidate he supported, other than that he couldn't resist PMing people who supported Hillary with nasty insults and threats.

He was an Edwards supporter before he switched to Obama. As someone observed above, he became mean and hateful after that switch.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:57 PM
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76. Oh, that's it. PMs.
I was wondering about that. I saw people complaining about him, but didn't see any posts that were particularly abusive.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:56 PM
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75. ahhhh RIP......
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 06:57 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:04 PM
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78. We all have our moments of excess, and we all need to practice more restraint. Me, too.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 07:05 PM by TexasObserver
There are many posters who annoy me, and who flood the board with threads that are useless, or worse, offensive. I HIDE them. If I see someone's name too often starting such threads, I put them IGNORE, so all their threads disappear. And that's true whether they are for Hillary, Obama or Edwards. I had the poster mentioned on IGNORE until recently for that reason. Then a few days back, I purged all the names from my IGNORE list, and started over, just to start over on that process, and see what I really needed to do. Almost immediately, I had a conflict with that poster, but when I explained my thoughts, he backed off and became more friendly.

I also use IGNORE to cut off any conversation that is going nowhere and quickly creating antipathies that are going nowhere. When you're in a room full of people and one of them is annoying to you, what do you ususally do? Stay there and have it escalate until the host comes over and says "you two need to leave?" I don't. I walk away and find someone else I do want to talk to. We'd all be better served by terminating those kinds of conversations after three exchanges.

I lurked for a year before joining, and when you lurk and don't post, you see things differently. You see how misconduct begats more misconduct, and it generates nasty and lengthy sub threads that exist all because both people involved just have to have to last word. I don't believe in doing that. I believe in DISENGAGING.

I don't start many threads because anything I have to say I can say on one of the many threads on whatever the topic is. I've been in the middle of the typical insult slinging the past few weeks, but that has mainly been what I would call tit for tat. Some Obama supporter posts a thread, I agree with the sentiment, and someone shows up with the laundry list of personal insults that are used on newbies.

Like drinking, you have to know when to say when, and sometimes, that is after the first drink.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:33 PM
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105. Better late than never, eh TO?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:19 PM
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111. Sorry, but I don't know who you are.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 10:20 PM by TexasObserver
or what you imply
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:22 PM
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113. mmmm, interesting enough
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:24 PM
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114. having now read your posts on this thread ...
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 10:25 PM by TexasObserver
You seem frivolous and catty. If that's what works for you, great, but this is where I go talk to someone more interesting and substantial.

So long.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:27 PM
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116. Fear not, friend, "frivolous and catty" are from you somewhat compliments...
ones I accept at face value no more no less, carry on :thumbsup:
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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:23 PM
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80. That's terrible. He had worked with many veterans to get benefits and even offered help and contacts
for my husband to help get his disability since substantial hearing loss after returning from Iraq.

I think it was a mistake.

If he is reading this, I want to let him know it was finally approved! It took nearly a year of battles.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:30 PM
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81. There WAS...a lot of Good Stuff he pointed out about issues he
said he was involved in. That's why I said...I liked him...but he got too "full of himself." :shrug:

I like to see folks here on DU who can open our minds to places we don't travel...but we never know if they are real...but we can at least "check out their links." But..getting "Mean & "Above it All" never helps anyone...sooner or later folks "push back." :-(
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:39 PM
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83. I didn't think he was vicious
Perceptions differ obviously-I thought he was one of the more reasonable ones.Of course I haven't seen all the stuff in here. But, I always thought he seemed nice, if a bit weird. And if he was a genuine Halliburton whistleblower as he claimed to be, major props to him (at least for that).

And at least I didn't view him as one of the most vicious ones here by a long chalk...Not even close...
I hate to say it (ostracizing noobs etc.) but on both sides, mine and yours, I see the most venom and viciousness from a subset of the people who have registered in the last couple of weeks (or have disabled profiles).

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:56 PM
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86. reasonable?
Kicking his own posts upwards of 50 times?

Going through the back pages of GDP and kicking dozens of anti-clinton threads with just a period?

Sending threatening, insulting PMs to people who disagreed with him?

Threatening for MONTHS to "expose" secret information about Bill Clinton that he didn't really have?

Yeah, reasonable.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:59 PM
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88. Man, I'm glad I never crossed paths with him
Nasty PMs. That's horrible. So many "adults" here need to grow up a bit.
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:20 PM
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99. Well ok-I didn't see all of that
Like I said, my exposure to him and contact with him were minimal. I haven't been reading his threads in here at all-I mostly saw his posts in GD a while back on Cheney/Halliburton etc.
The threatening PMs etc. sound really awful-I agree with you that he deserves his TS if he has been doing all that.

I guess I was really comparing him to a couple of others who I really dislike ( a few that show up in every Hillary thread with one line taunts and rabidly attack everyone who doesn't think Obama is the second coming). I didn't really see him do that and so he was off my radar. But all that other stuff does sound awful.

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:22 PM
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101. I glad that I never tangled with him,
he sounds like a sick f*ck. I'm glad he's departed.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:57 PM
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127. "if he was a genuine..." Thing is, he wasn't.
As for "vicious", I didn't take him as so much vicious to DUers, but as a serial liar. I had many long exchanges with him. Maybe he wasn't a deliberate liar (I think he was), but only delusional or eccentric, or whatever you want to call it. Nonetheless, he had tons of bullshit threads locked and was told to quit the shit and he simply would not:

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:57 PM
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87. .
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:01 PM
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89. LOL!
brat
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #87
92. i didn't get it at first...
but i do now.
:rofl:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:01 PM
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90. Oh! Beautiful!
There's an ego I won't miss. I wonder how many sock puppets go with him?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:10 PM
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93. I tried to work with him
...but in the end, I determined that he was one of the most unreasonable & arrogant people here.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:32 PM
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104. Me too!! But I think he needed a team of peeps in like Vienna with white coats & clip boards...
:shrug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:21 PM
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112. I think I recall of few of those times. ha ha--good try though.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:18 PM
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97. its a good day for this board.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:22 PM
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100. Only one...wow! I guess not all roads lead to Rome after all...
:(
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:28 PM
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102. Oh, kewl ! He was on my ignore list, too !
I think he was erratic in the consumption of his medication.......
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:29 PM
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103. Am I on your ignore list...
:cry:
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:42 PM
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107. Do you want to be?????????
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:49 PM
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108. My sense now is that that could be arraigned
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #108
109. I don't know what you said cause I can't see you
read what you say....

Feel better now? ;-)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. zippity doo-dah, zippity eh, my oh my, what a wonderful day!
;)
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:26 PM
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115. Good. I'm sick of a few Obama crazies being treated as representative of all of us.
I'm also tired of their vile crap they spew around this place every bit as much as I am sick of the vile filth a few Hillary wackos spew that end up reflecting poorly on everyone else.

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #115
122. To be fair, he wasn't an Obama crazy. Just a crazy disruptor.
He posed as an Obama supporter. He posed as many things.

I don't support Hillary or Obama, but whatever side you're on, it would be unfair to take this fake as anything legitimate at all.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:29 PM
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118. While this is perhaps embarrassing, I never even noticed that he existed.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:56 PM
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120. Holy SHIT, that took a long time.
Though he was never on my ignore list - I think we were in different threads for the most part. I checked out a few of his threads and just couldn't believe that this stuff was for real so I never went back.

Not a bloodbath, just my opinion in this discussion.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:29 PM
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121. He was NOT a legitimate Obama supporter, he was NOT a legitimate ANYTHING.
He was a classic disruptor, a person with some serious issues unrelated to his assertions and stories.

He had clear, indisputable warning:


but he persisted anyway.

Doesn't matter who your candidate is, we don't want this sort of unceasing ugly baseless assertion and innuendo. We can legitimately agree as truthful passionate DUers.

I don't personally have a dog in the Hillary/Obama issue at this time. I do mind bullshit.

We don't need these kinds of members with sockpuppets expressing undying devotion to one's self and sharing sharp inside jokes with one's self, congratulating one's self on one's amazing intellect and intelligence.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:37 PM
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123. Thank you for your post...
:kick:
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:48 PM
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126. thanks
:toast:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:14 AM
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130. damn! warned by SKINNER even.
that's gotta be big time trouble.
thanks for the post and info! :hi:
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pettypace Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:37 PM
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124. How do you get banned on this board?
I had 5 consecutive posts that were locked/removed this month...I'm curious what the flagrant offense is.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:59 PM
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128. Read here:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:26 AM
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131. I have to confess that he was on my ignore list because he liked to put
his fingers in his ears and go "LALALALALALALALALALALAlALA!". Now I have no one on my ignore list.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:42 PM
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134. I did enjoy his post when he supported Edwards...
and some of his first post when he joined Obama supporters. I personally never received negative pm's from D. We talked about other issues that were important to us both. I must admit I have not read his most recent post. I for one am concerned about his health. I know he has not been well as of late. I am one of the "newbies" that all the usual suspects from both camps love to attack and call names if I should disagree with their candidate. I don't post much for that reason. I think a lot of posters here need to do some soul searching and clean up their act. Hopefully after the primaries D. will be given another chance. Just in case you are wondering I still haven't picked between Obama and Clinton. Their agendas are to similar for me to make a choice, so I will wait for the GE.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:11 AM
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137. One of the best writers on the board
and for him to be discussed, by the persons that got him TS, is very arrogant. I enjoyed reading his post, brought alot of civility to DU. A major loss and a sad day. Will really make me think when I read some of the trash on here instead of ignoring it, I will be engaged in it. You should be ashamed. Hello, Dave your friend Mrs. and Mr. BB05
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:14 AM
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139. Sorry you didn't like him. I personally had some nice exchanges with him. n/t
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