The press and the pundits have wanted to call this race from the beginning

[bigtree]

No one liked that at first. Now Obama supporters are claiming some high ground in calling for Clinton to exit before the votes are cast in these larger states which have favored her. Those calls are an invitation for the media and the pundits to use their biased polls and their manipulative reporting to lead us around like sheep. The most important measure Hillary Clinton should use in deciding whether to continue are actual votes cast. Let the people in the upcoming states vote so we can gauge for ourselves where the support actually lies. Clinton should continue.

[babylonsister]

1. You're right about the press; Clinton was their shoo-in, but we fooled them! nt

[wndycty]

4. Wouldn't it be funny if Clinton endorsed Obama before Edwards did?

LOL

[babylonsister]

5. Whoa! I never considered that! nt

[bigtree]

11. so, that makes it right? We have absolutely no control over what they do

It's pretty revealing to see folks embrace the media's judgment when things are going their way.

[thunder rising]

2. I agree, there is no sense in dropping out with dignity, when you can get your A$$ royally kicked.

[bigtree]

17. We should measure that boast with actual votes cast in the upcoming states.

. . . especially since Obama can't achieve the necessary amount of delegates on votes cast alone. He didn't get in that position by dominating this race. That failure to amass enough delegates through votes is an obvious reflection of the almost equal number of ballots cast for Hillary Clinton throughout this primary.

Let's let the voters vote in the upcoming states, and then we won't just be talking smack based on polls and pundits.

[jillan]

3. The press got exactly what they wanted -

The first woman vs the first African American.

Now they are giving Hillary the Dodd, Biden, Kucinich, Edwards treatment.

[DemBones DemBones]

12. Thereby proving that white men in the media still hate women

more than they hate blacks, and that any woman who wants to appear on their shows had better go along with them on that.

BUT they will soon switch to 24/7 boosterism for McCain's candidacy, because he's a Republican and a white man. That's how this game is played.

[jillan]

15. You made me think about this -

How the big names in primetime are all men.

Except for Katie Couric.

Even on the Sunday talk shows - all men.

The woman are all on in the morning, or brought in as commentators.

hmmmm.

[BlackVelvet04]

19. and katie couric was a total asshole to Hillary in that interview...

I'm so sick of this shit.

[devilindisguise]

22. I don't watch Katie Couric

for that reason. She strikes me as a fraud, and she is so impudent, I just refuse to watch her. She has zero credibility in my household.

[devilindisguise]

6. Count the votes

Mostly Obama has won caucases, and they are a joke. I had a detailed lesson on how they are run, and it is a big joke. It is not like voting in closed primaries where you vote your own party. I think he won some states with "open" primaries where he could draw the reps. over to vote. That should not be allowed because it does not reflect the views of the people, but the views of a few. I know republicans that are registered democrats, so they can vote for the weakest candidate in closed primaries. In an open primary, they can cross over and vote for the democrat as a rep. or ind. It isn't fair. I say count the "real" votes from closed primary states. Then we will have an accurate, and reliable count. The popular democratic vote is for Hillary.

[islandmkl]

7. do you have any facts....

seems the factual analysis of the last 12 primaries might prove you otherwise...who knows..maybe Barack somehow was able to garner more SUPPORT than any Democratic candidate in recent history WITH THE SAME RULES AS BEFORE

[cali]

8. haha. He's won MORE primary states than she has.

You can't get away with that crap here. He's won SC, AL, VA, MD, DC, CT, WI and more. He's won as many closed primaries. So just stop with the whining.

[islandmkl]

9. and, on top of that, why is it that no one mentions...

Democrats crossing over in open states and voting for jackass repukes...

[devilindisguise]

26. Because I don't know any dems. who do that

I personally know reps. who are registered as dems. in my state. They do this to vote in democratic primaries for the weakest candidate. Then in the general election for president it doesn't matter how you are registered, and they can easily vote for the rep. I haven't had any democrats tell me they do this, and I have more democratic friends that rep. friends, I can tell you for sure. If dems. are crossing over to vote for anyone I would say it is the white men who are so dead set against abortion who voted for Huckleby.

[devilindisguise]

24. Whoa there

I will have to check and see how many were caucases and how many were "open" primaries (where reps. and inds. can cross over). And why doesn't Obama take the challenge from Larry Sinclair to take a lie detector test?

[high density]

13. Obama isn't winning 2:1 without the support of Democrats

I hate caucuses as much as anybody, but I have to say the Clinton folks have picked an interesting time to bring up this fight against the caucus idea. Once this primary season is over I hope their passion against them continues so the system will be different and caucus-free by the time we need to select another Democrat, whether it's in 2012 or 2016.

[devilindisguise]

20. A change is needed badly

I have really never paid much attention to caucases before. But when I heard a detailed explanation of how they work, in a 3 tiered system, where one has to basically give their votes away if they don't come in first on the first round of voting, it sickened me. This is supposed to be a one man, one vote nation. Things are not being done right/in accordance with the one person, one vote system. Most people don't realize this. I know I didn't realize it until this year during the long drawn out season of campaigning and covering all the primaries/caucases. In order to get the popular vote, I restate my point that each state should have closed primaries.

[ChiciB1]

10. Well, Sweet Pea... Join The Club!!! So Many More Of Us Have Been OH-SO

AWARE of this for quite some time! Funny how when it gets down to THE candidate you feel is the BEST, you begin to see what metaphorically is called... THE HANDWRITING ONE THE WALL!!

Those of us who have gone before you send you condolences, WE bear the SCARS of an enormous LET DOWN!

And just let me say, it doesn't get better as TIME goes by! It HURTS, and it HURTS DEEPLY!! My sympathy is with you and the KNOT in the pit of your stomach may turn into an uncomfortable bile! I have no answers, but I suppose we sit on the sidelines together now!

I would say, Let Us Pray... but I left the church a long time ago.

[Flabbergasted]

14. I thought the long primary was a good idea but after she sided with McCain on the

affair I'm ready to call for her to drop out ASAP.

Democrats need to be united to win the GE period.

[bigtree]

16. I side with her position on the 'affair'

No need for her to become the point (woman) on this. Get out of the way and let the guy hang himself without the benefit of pointing to her as the source of the criticism or attacks. Good politics. She's apparently taking the same strategy with the upcoming trial of Rezko, not mentioning it, despite the earlier attacks on Obama for the association.

[Skip Intro]

18. Yes, the media have done again in 2008 what they did in 2000

I'm sorry that might strike some as over the line, but many know it is true.

We are on the brink of trading a towering "W" for a towering "O."

Nothing against Barack, not in this post at least, but plenty against a media who have seen fit to place a halo above one candidate, and go after the other like rabid wolves.


The number of oblivious, once again, astonishes me.

[devilindisguise]

21. 100 per cent agree

Your post is excellent, and so true. It was a big mistake to let a few people have control of so much of the media. We don't get good news that way.

[Alamom]

23. I agree completely. I could not understand the blindness in the last 2 races.

Here we go again.........

[Skidmore]

25. I think the media actually preferred to get a heaping pile of

"H" against the big "R", but it didn't pan out. The media capital of the world wanted nothing more than Hillary v. Rudy Reduxe, and neither side handed it to them. Both bigger than life and hauling with huge bags of dirt around with them, enough to keep the scandalmongers digging through them for years ahead.