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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:53 PM
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WHERE... Was THIS Story (1of2) When Edwards Was IN The Race? Ahh, Waiting For Edwards To Succumb...
WHERE... Were These Stories When Edwards Was IN The Race? Ahh, Waiting For Edwards To Succumb...
Posted by DaLittle Kitty in General Discussion: Primaries
Wed Feb 20th 2008, 09:09 PM
To the Corporatist NON Coverage of the Edwards Campaign to finally "Take Hold" and for John Edwards to be FORCED FROM THE RACE...

and the Concocted lies and misrepresentation that was the very well organized campaign of the Corporatist Pundits against his candidacy... Solomon, Krauthammer, Mariucci are just some of the names we can recall... others include some familiar names... The host of ABC's Sunday Morning is certainly one, and the Wolfster from CNN is yet another...

So here we have it... This McCain thing looks nice... but it will quickly blow over... and we are still stuck... and the Corporatists remain ... FIRMLY IN CONTROL!

"The C O R P O R A T I S T S" ... That C O N T R O L OUR GOVERNMENT AND POLITICAL SYSTEM... ARE... HOME FREE and IN THE Clear... Free from the VERY PALPABLE THREAT

That


WAS...

John Edwards' Populist Campaign To Restore "The POWER To The PEOPLE!"


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...

The Obama Mystery

By David Ignatius
Sunday, February 17, 2008; B07

"Why is the press going so easy on Barack Obama?" asks a prominent Democratic Party strategist, echoing a criticism frequently made by the Clinton campaign. It's a fair question, and now that Obama appears to be the front-runner in terms of his delegate count, he deserves a closer look, especially from people like me who have written positively about him.

The reason to look closely now, quite simply, is to avoid buyer's remorse later.

WHAT ABOUT THE BUYERS' REMORSE FROM DEMOCRATS??? YOU BASTARD... THIS STORY SHOULD HAVE BEEN P R I N T E D... THREE FUCKING MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama is a phenomenon in American politics -- a candidate who has ignited an enthusiasm among young people that I haven't seen in decades. He promises a nation in which, as his supporters chant, "race doesn't matter." And for a world that is dangerously alienated from American leadership, he offers a new face that could dispel negative assumptions about America -- and in that sense boost the nation's standing and security.

But these are symbolic qualities. What Obama would actually do as president remains a mystery in too many areas. Before he completes what increasingly looks like a march to the Democratic nomination, Obama needs to clarify more clearly what lies behind the beguiling banner marked "change." Is this FUCKING KLOWN OF A JOURNALIST ( I use the term "journalist" LOOSELY... Is this KLOWN TRYING TO SAVE HILLBILL'S BACON???? Sure sounds like it to me....

Let's start with Obama's economic policies. Like all the major candidates, he has a Web site brimming with plans and proposals. But it has been hard to tell how these different strands come together. Is Obama a "New Democrat," in the tradition of Bill Clinton, who would look skeptically at traditional welfare programs? Is he a neo-populist, in the style of his former rival John Edwards, (OBAMA CERTAINLY HAS COPIED... errr Plagiarized... errr emulated John Edwards ... @ EVERY juncture throughout this campaign...WHY STOP NOW?) ...who would make job protection and tax equity his top domestic priorities?

Or is he a technocrat, whose economic answers wouldn't be all that different from those of Hillary Clinton?

Answer... Who ever he needs to be on any given day?

This IS a little bit late to be finding out now what should have been publicized MONTHS ago... IF WE HAD A TRULY HONEST AND FORTHRIGHT FIFTH ESTATE IN THIS COUNTRY...

WHICH WE CERTAINLY DO NOT!!!! This IS... 21st Century FASCIST AMERICA!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:57 PM
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1. Dudette....
that post is hard to make heads or tails of.

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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:47 PM
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8. THINK PLEASE and ye shall figure it out...
:think:
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:05 PM
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10. No, write it in a coherent manner and I'll read it.....n/t
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:22 AM
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12. Please Read Post # 6 Smart*ss!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:39 PM
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15. Did you throw yourself in the floor and kick your feet too?
The OP was gibberish.

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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:45 PM
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17. Oh Ye Who Is NOT Quite Astute Enough To Consider The Big Picture But EXCLUSIVELY Relies Upon Gender
As Defining Characteristic For A Presidential Nominee... Oh dearest it is your "thoughtLESSNESS" that is about half of our problem in 2008... The other half are the Obamakins... Just believe in "whatever" for President... cause that is in effect... ALL WE GOT... Big Picture Sugar... It IS ALL 'BOUT DA $MONEY$!!!!!
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:48 PM
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18. Yes Higher Level Thought IS LikelY "Gibberish" To Those Incapable Of Comprehending Complex Discourse
The result of the dumbing down of America.. so here YOU are... Thankfully I was able to sidestep such a moribund fate... Apparently you were NOT so adept....:)
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:24 AM
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13. On Second Thought I Have Just Promised Myself To IGNORE ALL MORONS... Count Yourself In As First On
The List! :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 09:58 PM
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2. bitter much?
JE made his own decision to drop out. And the lack of media coverage is NOT the primary reason he failed to win in Iowa. He put all his eggs in one basket and he failed. And there are no shocking revelations in that story about Obama. Obama is a much better candidate than JE. He's run a far better campaign and he his strategy was much superior. You seem to think that everyone would have just fallen in JE's camp if only the media hadn't been so mean. That's absurd.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:41 PM
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6. Please Read This Post by Taylor... "The Press vs John Edwards It May Enlighten You To The Truth...
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-30-08 10:48 PM
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The Press v. John Edwards

One year ago, when CBS polled Americans to see where likely Democratic presidential candidates stood in the public eye, John Edwards came in a solid second to Hillary Clinton.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/CBSNews_polls/jana-candid...

Thanks to her status as a former First Lady she had recognition similar to former Democratic candidates Gore and Kerry. Edwards was the most recognized Democrat who had never been a nominee. Obama’s recognition rates and favorability rates among Democrats and Independents were significantly lower than Edwards. Edwards’ unfavorability rating was better than Hillary’s, giving him a edge as a “uniter.”

How did the nation go from knowing who Edwards was to not even knowing that he was running for president ? Where did this idea that he was “phony” start? Why, in the last couple of weeks, did we start to hear that Edwards was some kind of communist anarchist?

It all started with the BFL, Big Fat Liars aka the corporate media.

Here is the excellent analysis (with piece charts and block graphs) that forced the mainstream media to admit what we all had seen----they had deliberately inflated their coverage of two of the candidates, Hillary and Obama, while deliberately shutting out Edwards, who actually ranked high in the polls.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/5/12286/27650/142/...

They did this for a solid year. One example of the way that this bias permeated every aspect of election reporting: one night on Countdown the guest was E.J. Dionne. Poll numbers from Iowa were shown. :bounce:The Dems were in a a dead heat. :bounce: KO asked Dionne to comment. He launched into a discussion of Hillary and Obama and never said a word about Edwards, who was neck and neck with the other two. KO did not even notice.

They did this even after Edwards came in second in Iowa, giving the lie to the Two Man Race Lie . :bounce: Instead of suddenly noticing the Edwards campaign, as people across the country started to notice it, the MSM responded with another impromptu lie, which I call Who's On Second? :think: because the pundits would talk about Obama's win and Hillary's third place finish while giving the impression that the old joke candidate Nobody for President must have taken second place. Or worse, television political reporters on all the news networks would announce that the Edwards campaign was finished, that he would resign soon. This at a time when his campaign was hoping to win new supporters and raise much needed cash. This had the effect of negating any boost his campaign might have received from the Iowa win. The lies that were told at this moment probably did more to destroy the Edwards campaign than any others. :bounce:

In this interview on Countdown Keith Olbermann asks John Edwards why the press at MSNBC said that his second place finish meant that Edwards was in trouble and not Hillary. Edwards replied bluntly that the media had been trying to frame it as a two person race between Hillary and Obama. To Olbermann's credit, after that interview, he began to feature Edwards more often on his show. However, by then the damage was done.

http://takeaction.wordpress.com/2008/01/05/john-edwards... /

When the report described in the DailyKos link above came out there was a backlash. The mainstream media had been caught attempting to "fix" the Democratic Primary. That was not good. They still had to "fix" the race between Hillary and Obama.In an effort to restore their tarnished honor, we finally saw the TV news networks and the major newspapers like the Washington Past and the New York Times devote some coverage to the Edwards campaign before the South Carolina primary. It was too little, too late. After a solid year of mainstream media attacks and blackouts, one week of coverage will not resurrect a presidential campaign.

I have been writing about the corporate media conspiracy against John Edwards for almost a year in hopes the we, voters and consumers of the news media could put a stop to it. Looks like the CEOs at GE/NBC, NewsCorp./Fox, AOL/Time-Warner, Viacom-CBS, Disney-ABC won and we lost.

Today, I am writing so that we will remember, and also so that the media lap dogs, the individual journalists---no, let’s call them what they are---the WHORES will not get away with doing their masters’ dirty work. I got the idea when I re read The Press v. Al Gore a couple of years ago and realized that with the exception of one sacrificial goat, Ceci Connelly of the Washington Post, the reporters who created the lie Gore is a Liar have all done very well for themselves.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5920188/the_pres...

Google and see where journalists like Walter Shapiro, Richard Berke , Chris Matthews, George Stephanopoulos, Bill Turque, Bob Woodward, Margaret Carlson have ended up. Hmmm. Some of them will feature in this journal. Guess they learned from Gore is a liar that there is good pay off and no accountability for telling lies about Democratic candidates.

I recognized that the media fix was in a year ago. On February 7, 2007 I wrote a DailyKos diary called From the Corporate Media that Brought You Gore is a Liar, Edwards is a Phony When I got six responses, I knew it was going to be an uphill battle convincing people of what was going on.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/8/1319/06023/495/2...

A year ago the MSM blackout had not started yet. A year ago, it seemed like Edwards was getting more attention than all the other Dems combined, only it was not nice attention. John Solomon of the Washington Post lead the way with a series of article about Edwards house, his money, his hair, his hairdresser !!!! . Right wing sites began a coordinated action that seemed to be aiming towards “Edwards is a phony” and sure enough that is the word that they managed to get to stick. Hugh Hewitt and Michelle Malikan were among the right wingers who were singling him out for special attention. And the MSM was already showing selective hearing in that it would not cover Edwards policy statements but it would make mountains out of any wild rumor that might cause a rift within his camp or between his camp and traditional members of the Democratic base (Read my DailyKos entry. The details are all there.)

John Solomon’s reputation was already trashed before he took this assignment, and after he finished Edwards is a phony no one would ever believe anything he wrote again. Certainly, no one would ever talk to him again. I guess that is why he had to take a job at the right wing ghetto of the Washington Times . So, one of the media whores has paid—sort of, if you count getting kicked upstairs into an editorial job retribution. I would rather see him working at a Thrifty Nickel .

Here is la crème de la crème of Solomon’s important political “reporting”, the interview with the man who gave Edwards’ some haircuts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

:bounce: This story was printed in July, 2007, long after I and other people had begun to complain about the obvious partisan nature of the stories that Solomon was writing and the Washington Post was running about Edwards. I feel that it is necessary to add the editors and owners of the Washington Post to the list of participants in the inquisition against Edwards, because they are the ones who hired the notorious John Solomon to write this tabloid silliness disguised as political news. This story, with its implied subtext of the stalker hairdresser with his unrequited gay crush (getting on planes day or night to race halfway across the country to make his man look good) was probably the purple-est prose I have seen in years. It also plays up Ann Coulter’s infamous comment from last spring. Lord only knows what Joseph Torrenueva thought of the article. Now that the Edwards campaign is over, he should hire Edwards to help him sue the WaPo for libel.

If you think I am over reading the article, take a look at how the guys on TV spun it:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/07/over-tipping-by-...

Television gasbags have been gleefully recycling this Edwards nonsense all day, based upon the latest Soloman story and treating it like it's news. Matthews said "sometimes small stories can reveal big things." He pretends he's cleverly pointing out that Edwards is a phony populist for getting expensive haircuts but what he's really doing is pushing GOP propaganda that Edwards is effeminate and soft. Like all Democrats.

Fox's Major Garrett just did a huge piece on this "controversy" ending with this:
"The stylist said 'I try to make the man handsome, strong, more mature and these are the things, as an expert, that's what we do.' For sheer irony, that Edwards seems to believe he needs all three, might be the sharpest cut of all."


Here is a link about George Stephanopoulos giving the un newsworthy WaPo story more coverage.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh070607.shtml

“But even more than that, it seems a little callous to be sort of pushing off on the hairdresser. When the hairdresser comes back and says, “Wait a second, I was a friend of yours, I worked hard for you," it can't help. More—more haircut headlines are not good news for John Edwards.”


Neither is another television news pundit yakking about haircuts. What an ass.

:bounce: Note that Chris Matthews and George Stephanopoulos are alumni from the Rolling Stone “Gore is a Liar” story, making them seasoned veteran media whores. Among Tweety’s many other Edward’s atrocities---after New Hampshire, when he wasn’t accusing the citizens of that state of being racists and E-vote hackers, he was accusing Edwards of being a spoiler who was costing Obama the race. This lie sounded so good to liberal commentator Lawrence O’Donnell that he destroyed his reputation by writing the unfortunate “John Edwards is a Loser” for the Huffington Post, proving that innocent liberals should never associate with former CREEP organizers like Pat Buchanan, who has been presiding over MSNBC the last few months like some kind of Ghost of Stolen Elections Past.:bounce:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/john-ed...


Thumbs up to Media Matters for catching another print journalist :bounce: Carla Marinucci of the San Francisco Chronicle participating in the Edwards is a phony lie. Bonus points to Media Matters for spotting the fact that Carla also helped out big time with Gore is a liar making this reporter one of those seasoned veteran media whores I was talking about.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200706020001

Perhaps Marinucci was too modest to mention it, but that report by the Chronicle about Edwards' "hefty fees from university speeches" was written by ... Carla Marinucci. So we have a reporter who writes an article about a candidate, then two days later writes that "the pileup of headlines ... threatens to obliterate" the candidate's message -- without mentioning that she was responsible for one of those headlines that she uses as an example.


Oh my. Everyone, when you read anything by Carla Marinucci, remember to be skeptical for this may well be another John Solomon who hasn’t been tossed into the garbage heap of the Washington Times yet.

The same Media Matters piece mentions Bill O’Reilly, Tucker Carlson and Dennis Miller as more vectors by which the newspaper’s Edwards is a phony lies began to get distributed to the public. Vectors is a polite, medical term for blood sucking insects that carry disease, like leeches or mosquitoes or ticks.

Here is article about Fox News’ John Gibson describing Edwards as a “phony” in August.

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/08/big_story_takes_a_s...

I could fill an encyclopedia with Edwards is a phony lies of the rich and famous. However, there is more. As I noted above, the press did not stop at slandering and libeling Sen. Edwards. When they were not bad mouthing him, they were denying him the free publicity which they lavished on the other two senators. Here is another link about the blacklist.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/11/wa...

:bounce: After all, the same WaPo reporters who chose to describe Edwards' speech as an effort to "elbow" his way into the Hillary-Obama rivalry also chose to devote the first eight paragraphs of their piece only to what Hillary and Obama said. They chose to wait until the ninth graf to tell us what Edwards said. This despite the fact that the reporters also acknowledge that polls show that in Iowa the race remains "a competitive three-way contest."

So if by WaPo's own admission this is a competitive contest between all three candidates, why go to such extreme editorial lengths to frame it as a two-person race that Edwards is trying to "elbow" his way into?

This might not have been worth bothering with if it didn't perfectly capture a lot about what's been wrong with so much of the reporting on Campaign 2008. What's bizarre is how blatant this has become -- in cases like this no one even bothers to conceal how unabashedly manufactured the chosen narrative of the moment is.



Obama was elevated to Sen. Clinton’s level almost immediately, creating the fiction of the Two Man Race . Democrats were offered the Pyrrhic choice----pick the first woman and snub Blacks or pick the first Black and alienate women. And, just in case the two candidates might do the sensible thing and decide to run together, the mainstream media decided to mix things up and interject race into the race. (See my recent journals about the MSM’s attempts to position the Democrats into a circular firing squad). Since this journal is devoted to Edwards, I will not cite references to that other campaign here.

With the New Year, things began to change. The public's concern turned towards the economy---Edwards’ special issue—and the MSM was now unable to deny him coverage completely as they have done before without getting caught. Therefore, in recent weeks, the corporate media began to unleash new lies against Edwards. One was specifically directed at Republicans and Independents, the Edwards is a red lie. This one was meant to keep his numbers down in polls which match Dems versus Republicans head to head. Ability to win in a general election had been one of Edwards’ strongest campaign points, so the MSM created this lie to undercut his strength. Check out this video link of CNN’s Glenn Beck calling Edwards a communist:

http://broadcatching.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/glenn-bec... /

If the corporate media could paint Edwards as a “red”, far left of Hillary and Obama, an extremist who would strip Americans of their goods and reduce us all to Soviet era drudgery, then they could neutralize him as a general election contender.

A related lie is “Edwards is an anarchist”. This is where “Edwards is an angry white male” comes in. We have media whores like Wolf Blitzer to thank for this:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/02/john-edwards-a... /

What do you say to their criticisms that you are just running over around the state screaming and hollering and making a lot of noise, but you’re not ready to really get things done to work to get things done?


And some of them are able to combine all the lies together, as in Edwards is an angry, lying, phony by Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post writing this time for the National Review on-line

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDMxN2E1ZGYyOTYwZD...

Today he plays the avenging angel, engaged in an “epic struggle” against the great economic malefactors that “have literally,” he assures us, “taken over the government.” He is angry, embodying the familiar zeal of the convert, ready to immolate anyone who benightedly holds to any revelation other than the zealot’s very latest.

Nothing new about a convert. Nothing new about a zealous convert. What is different about Edwards is his endlessly repeated claim that the raging populist of today is what he has always been. That this has been the “cause of my life,” the very core of his being, ingrained in him on his father’s knee or at the mill or wherever, depending on the anecdote he’s telling.

You must understand: This is not politics for him. “This fight is deeply personal to me. I’ve been engaged in it my whole life.”

Except for his years as senator, the only public office he’s ever held. The audacity of the all-my-life trope is staggering. By his own endlessly self-confessed record, his current pose is a coat of paint newly acquired. His claim that it is an expression of his inner soul is a farce.


My! Such eloquence! This Krauthammer is a master of the anti-Democrat slur. Hmmm. I wonder if he has had practice. A quick Google will tell us the answer. (I really didn't know what he did back in 2000, but I started typing this as I was doing the on-line search because I had a pretty good hunch from the oiliness of the propaganda above. I have a nose for these things.)

Oh lookie! Here is what Mr. Krauthammer was up to in 2000.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh120302.shtml

But someone else offended more grievously on last weekend’s Fox News Sunday. That was Charles Krauthammer, serving up a remarkable statement about Gore’s critique of the press. Gore had said that Fox, Rush and the Washington Times “are, truthfully speaking, part and parcel of the Republican Party” (see THE DAILY HOWLER, 11/29/02). And Gore had said this: “Most of the media been slow to recognize the pervasive impact of this fifth column in their ranks—that is, day after day, injecting the daily Republican talking points into the definition of what’s objective as stated by the news media as a whole.”
Snip

Krauthammer decided to crawl in the slime. Try to believe that he said it:
LIASSON: But I think that’s a real kind of cry of frustration from Al Gore, and other Democratic leaders have said the same thing.
KRAUTHAMMER: Crying for help, you know. (LAUGHTER) I’m a psychiatrist. I don’t usually practice on camera. But this is the edge of looniness, this idea that there’s a vast conspiracy, it sits in a building, it emanates, it has these tentacles, is really at the edge. He could use a little help.
What a slimy man Krauthammer turns out to be! Krauthammer—a former and now misbehaving shrink—thinks Gore’s remarks on the press are “loony.” What a slimy—and deeply dishonorable—man this Great Pundit turns out to be.


To paraphrase Krauthammer’s own words about Edwards: You must understand: This is not journalism for him. “This fight is deeply business to me. I’ve been engaged in it my whole (reporting) life.”

How did the Rolling Stone miss this guy? Be sure to note this name, Krauthammer (what a name!), so that you can take anything he writes about Democrats with a great big grain of salt. Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post veteran of the Gore is a liar and Edwards is an angry-phony Big Lies.

I could go on and on with this, but I am just too damned fed up with what passes for journalism in this country. The only solution is to bust apart the telecommunications monopolies that have turned television news stations and newspapers into propaganda organs for major corporations. MSNBC no longer needs to get ratings (except for the vanity of a few celebrities). Not for money, anyway. Its job is now to change the way that America votes in order to benefit the corporate coffers of parent company GE. The same goes for ABC and Disney, CBS and Viacom and all the others.

What we need is the US equivalent of the BBC, a fully funded independent set of public television channels that program news, entertainment for children and adults and educational program. Every industrialized country in the world except the U.S. has one. Everyone would pay a tax and no political party would have any control over it. We also need legislation to keep newspapers free of the influence of big money---like the $60million the US Chambers of Commerce have pledged to spend to defeat candidates who endorse “populists” issues this year.

In order to do this, we need to get rid of this industry pandering Republican FCC which allows unlimited telecom media mergers and expansions. We need to investigate and prosecute the current chairman for taking over Congress’s role in writing legislation that affects the media.

And most important of all, we need to protest and blacklist the individual media whores who do the dirty work for their corporate masters. I can not possibly keep track of or list all the individual players who have contributed to the lies Edwards is a phony , Two Man Race Edwards is a spoiler Edwards is a red . If you know of any specific “journalist” and can post a quote and link, please do so. I would love to see a hundred replies, each with the name of a different journalist caught in the act.

It is important to hold the press accountable for their actions. Reporters think that they can get away with it by claiming that they are just getting swept away in the general narrative or are incompetent or just making a joke or "dumb asses". This is bullshit. I am a story teller. I know that it takes work to tell a story and make it believable. Big Lies do not spring out of nothing fully formed. A lot of effort goes into creating propaganda.

It will do not good simply to accuse the press of attacking the John Edwards 2008 Campaign. They know what they did. They are gloating over their victory, counting their reward in advance while they flex their muscles, awaiting further orders from their corporate masters. As Goebbels wrote, those who create propaganda are not in search of a higher truth. They want results.

:bounce:READ THIS LITTLE DITTY FROM good ole Hermmann Goebbels... WAKE UP FOLKS! "Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people of what we think right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin, and when I speak in Bayreuth, I say different things than I say in the Pharus Hall . That is a matter of practice, not of theory.We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses." Does this strike a chord or two fer ya'll? :bounce:


http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb54.htm

You can not shame them into stopping. So, the only way to fight this kind of opponent is to take away their ability to spread propaganda. That means revealing them to be liars in public, so that no one will talk to them to give them stories and no news consumer will believe them. Taking away the incentive of television news and newspapers to whore for big corporations also helps. And encouraging the public to become better consumers of the news by offering them alternative choices and by educating them to the signs of propaganda. BOTTOM LINE... The Corporatist Voice, The MSM has been very busy SELECTING YOUR/OUR PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE! :wtf:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:07 PM
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3. Things that are wrong with your post
1. The press is the fourth estate. Not the fifth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Estate

2. You are unhinged. This reads like it was written under the influence of cocaine. Sorry to put it bluntly, but that's how it comes across to me. Maybe you should try paragraphs and fewer CAPS.

3. You do seem like an intelligent person, but you're a bit carried away with the idealism. Personally, I don't think Edwards is all that. On the other hand, he was a bit more credible than Dennis 'the Menace' Kucinich as a Presidential candidate.

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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:46 PM
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7. Maybe You Don't But HillBill and Barack Sure Like Him Enough To Copy Him Left and Right!
The Process is TOTALLY FUCKED Up my friend... That IS the point here... You control nothing.. most assuredly NOT your vote.... So keep dream'n about hope cause this whole thing ain't even fly'n on a wish and a prayer...
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:40 AM
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14. Television reporters (visual media) -
started referring to themselves as the Fifth Estate at least 50 years ago. I know this from personal experience. It was picked up for general usage shortly thereafter. You may want to read your Wikipedia link more closely.

What's with the school teacher/moral highgrounder/oldest child attitude? If you need to lord it over someone get a dog.

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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:08 PM
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4. Ouch....
my head!!
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:20 PM
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16. Great Smilie!
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:25 PM
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5. Tell the truth...
... you just finished watching that video "The History of Weed" that was in that other thread... didn't ya?
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 10:50 PM
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9. Truth IS ALL I know... Fantasy is for children.. If You Expect Corporate America to Just Hand Over
the Keys... You are in fantasyland... " A little phrase from John Edwards...
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 11:56 PM
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11. Dilute! Dilute! All-one!
Wow! Do I have the candidate FOR YOU!

http://www.mercerforpresident2008.com/home.html
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:42 AM
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19. I of Course Have My Candidate...
:)
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