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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:20 AM
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Should Clinton take the VP spot? I don't think so.
I happen to think she would be the best President...IF her name wasn't Clinton, but it is! I am not as concerned about uniting the party as I am about showing the Country that "the ticket" is balanced. If Obama's lack of experience is with the military and national security, his choice of a VP should reflect someone strong in those areas. That's not Hillary! My choice would be Schwatzcof, but I think he's a Pub! He's GREAT with the media, a terrific speaker, and a very good military strategist.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:29 AM
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1. Gen Clark... he would be a decent choice. - n/t
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:37 AM
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2. I agree with the Clark idea
who was the Col. that ran against mean Jean in Ohio? Those are the only two that I can think of at the moment.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:42 AM
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5. Clark is NOT a politician! I like him as a General, but in a Presidential Campaign you need
a polotician too! That's why I mentioned Shwartskopf. He IS also a good politician!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:47 AM
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9. Really, what elections has he won?
The guys is currently 73 years old.

Please stop this nonsense. Even the repukes aren't looking to him for a role in the next administration.

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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:53 AM
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18. Clark did win more states than Edwards in 04 I believe
To say he is less of a politician than someone than never ran is absurd!

Clark would be an almost-perfect choice as VP.

He has strong security credentials, is a good debater, is a PROGRESSIVE, was endorsed by both George McGovern and Michael Moore yet he is viewed as a moderate, he would help in the South and West, he is brilliant and spent more time than anyone in 06 working to help get a Democratic Congress....I could go on.

He also supports Clinton, so his choice would be reaching out to the Hillary camp for unity.

All in all, a great choice.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:39 AM
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3. Governor Richardson
is a perfect running mate for Obama. He has tons of foreign policy experience, domestic experience, and he's from the Southwest.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:45 AM
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8. Sorry, but I am not impressed with Bill. He's a nice guy, but I don't
see him as a strong leader at all.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:10 AM
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21. I couldn't disagree more.
First there is the question of who made the ballots in New Mexico disappear. Second I have issues with a politician who will try to manipulate intelligence in order to start a war. Bush/Cheney weren't the first to try to trump up fake WMD threats from Iraq.
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:01 AM
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22. I like Bill Richardson
for VP. New Mexico has a large native population, and Richardson is generally well regarded by indian people. Native rights are of primary importance to me, and having a solid advocate in Washington can only help.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:41 AM
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4. I'd take Hillary over Schwarzkopf
here's Stormin Norman on John McCain:

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/2c677fa5-dd17-49f8-bf30-e972eee012cd.htm

"Senator John McCain has served our country with honor in war and in peace. He has demonstrated the type of courageous leadership our country sorely needs at this time. For that reason, he has my complete support."
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:43 AM
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6. He's being a General supporting a war hero! n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:59 AM
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13. the General supported AWOL Bush over war hero Kerry
I still prefer Hillary
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:44 AM
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7. Schwartzkopf is a republican
and he would be 74 years old by the election.

He won't be on anyone's short list for anything.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:50 AM
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10. You're probably right, but I would love someone like him to be the VP.
I know Norm is a Pub, but he is a great General and knows how to lead and deal with the media too. I can't think of any Dem who has those same attributes!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:57 AM
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11. Well, I think we are all out of war hero generals right now
given that since Stormin Norman, we haven't really won anything. Well, except Clark did do an adequate job of AVOIDING war in the Balkans (the worst parts of a war). Yet to be seen if that will work out completely. But a real war general that marched in, kicked ass, and marched out again and brought almost everyone back home... we are fresh out of those.

Of course, the more we learn about the lead up to Gulf War I... the more troubled I am about that whole war (not that it's Gen Norman's problem)..
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:57 AM
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19. Clark won in Balkans without a single US death...
And Milosovek was ousted.

I'd say that is kicking some ass. Efficiently.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:57 AM
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12. Jim Webb
Senator from Virginia, highly decorated Marine combat veteran, Navy secretary in the Reagan administration. Smart money says he's Obama's VP pick. (If it's not him, it'll most likely be Wesley Clark or Joe Biden.)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:12 AM
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14. I like Webb too. He's not quite as personable as Norman, but he's good.
My biggest concern is that we'd be pulling another Dem Senator out of the very close Senate majority! No matter who wins this nomination, we will be losing ONE Senator. Right now we have a whopping "1" sort of majority, except Lieberman isn't really a Dem anymore. i think I heard there was a possibility of gaining 7 Senate seats "if we win them all". Can we afford to give up another Senate Seat?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:14 AM
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15. Virginia has a Democratic governor who will appoint a replacement.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:17 AM
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16. I hope it isn't any Democratic Senator, although I think several would be great
It is important that we have more Democrats in Congress, we can't afford to lose even one. Our Prez should pick a governor from a liberal state, hopefully.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:27 AM
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17. norman schwarzkopf? ermm, he's on the other side.
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GDavis Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:59 AM
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20. Obamatons will not accept anyone but another Obamaton
Besides Hillary should not even consider or entertain such offers.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:01 AM
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23. Talking out of your ass?
This "Obamaton" would welcome Gen. Clark despite the fact that he appears to be on Hil's payroll. I want a VP that brings even more credibility to the Democratic ticket, and his credibility is obvious in matters of the military.
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