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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:35 AM
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What CHANGE does Obama really want to make?
I mean specifics! I heard this question on Thom Hartman this morning, and I think it'dsa valid question. EVERYBODY want's CHANGE! But what is it going to be? I haven't heard a lot of specifics from Barack. Maybe that's more of a general election thing and I just have to wait an see.

What do you think?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:47 AM
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1. If his earmarks are any indication
he likes infrastructure, education, the arts, museums, health care, parks, first responders, and programs for at-risk youth. :)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101101573.html
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:52 AM
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13. Leave his ears out of this.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:47 AM
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2. The biggest change he is concerned with is....
changing Barack from a senator to President.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:47 AM
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3. One of the BIG changes I'm excited about is transparency in government
I'm ready for the truth to come out for peer review.

With Hillary's remark "It took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush, it will take another Clinton to clean up after this Bush" worries me.

The way I interpret that quote is, They will sweep everything under the Oval Office rug, where it will NEVER see the light of day.

Bill Clinton swept away BCCI, Iran Contra, and other crimes committed by GHW Bush.

Why should I believe Hillary wouldn't do the same?.?.?


There are other changes Barack has talked about. Heath care, Green jobs, Global Warming, among others. Check out his website to better understand the changes he is talking about.


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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:59 AM
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6. You are still arguing the vote between baa & Hillary. I'm not!
I'm asuming OBama is our nominee. I want to know what change he is talking about! IMO, EVERYTHING has to change. ALL the chairmn of EVERY Dept. must be rplaced. The secrecy MUST be replaced. The strong ties to Corp. Control must be severed. I could go on, but I do't think I need to. You all know all those things. I haven't heard Barackj OR Hillary for that matter, state tose things yet!
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:09 AM
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9. I stated in my subject line what change Obama will make to have Transparency in Government
That is one of my biggest concerns.

The rest of my post also explained the other changes he will make. I think he will accomplish a lot of those goals if we win control of congress.


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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:19 AM
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10. One of the major changes should be going back to the Civil
Service sector for important government Department and Agency directors instead of putting in Political Appointees, who have contribted to the president's political campaigns, in these important positions which monitor the every day phases of our lives.

Get rid of the "yes Men" who cater to Bush's every whim and use Civil Service employees who have worked their way up the bureaucratic ladder of government and know and understand the sectors they are working with - Agriculture, Education, Finance, Environment, Defense, Labor, etc.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:55 AM
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4. I really don't know why it's so hard to read his website, there s a LONG list of changes.
IF people really wanted to know that information they would do their homework and quit asking others to read it and digest it for them.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:03 AM
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7. The majority of voters are NOT going to go read a web site!
You may think they should, but it's just not going to happen!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:49 AM
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12. They're not curious about your question, either.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:57 AM
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5. Do you ever listen to him speak?


Read what he's done already....http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4723451&mesg_id=4723451

And very importantly, listen to this interview...the whole thing! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4089397

And then watch the video of today's 20,000 Austin Rally.
http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/022208kvueobama-bkm.1c122dc7.html

If you do all of these things, you will know exactly what Barack Obama's plans are, and how he will get them achieved!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:08 AM
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8. The changes that concern me the most:
-- Open government changes
-- Trade changes / Tax changes
-- Open Diplomacy policy
-- Labor Stance
-- INDEX minimum wage to inflation, after raising it!

Of course it pisses me off that the moment I reference any of the detailed policy specifics that are available, I am suddenly a mindless twit who doesn't know what my candidate stands for because I don't have every bit of information committed to memory.

I know that part of Obama's proposals include regulating lobbying and adding public accountability to the mix by creating easy to access resources so that I can easily see what money is being spent where and by whom for what purpose. I know that Obama's plan includes putting an end to virtually all no-bid contracts, but requiring that all contracts over a specific low amount (something like 20,000$) be required to be competitively awarded.

I know that he proposes what he calls "fireside chats for the 21st century" which I absolutely love, where he would require cabinet departments to host broadband interactive public meetings on a regular basis among other things.

I know that when I read Obama's proposals for simplifying the tax code, I agreed with them. I know that I support his positions on trade and believe those represent change. I strongly agree with his policy and philosophy toward diplomacy, something that Hillary Clinton disagrees with.

I know that Obama will not only fight to raise the minimum wage, but also INDEX it to inflation which I strongly support. All of these things represent change TO ME.

Now... because no human being can be expected to commit every single detail to memory, I will now reference for you the details on only the specific areas of interest I mentioned...

Here are the details that I care about:

Centralize Ethics and Lobbying Information for Voters: Obama will create a centralized Internet database of lobbying reports, ethics records, and campaign finance filings in a searchable, sortable and downloadable format.

Require Independent Monitoring of Lobbying Laws and Ethics Rules: Obama will use the power of the presidency to fight for an independent watchdog agency to oversee the investigation of congressional ethics violations so that the public can be assured that ethics complaints will be investigated.

Support Campaign Finance Reform: Obama supports public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests. Obama introduced public financing legislation in the Illinois State Senate, and is the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold’s (D-WI) tough bill to reform the presidential public financing system.

Create a Public “Contracts and Influence” Database: As president, Obama will create a “contracts and influence” database that will disclose how much federal contractors spend on lobbying, and what contracts they are getting and how well they complete them.

Expose Special Interest Tax Breaks to Public Scrutiny: Barack Obama will ensure that any tax breaks for corporate recipients – or tax earmarks – are also publicly available on the Internet in an easily searchable format.

End Abuse of No-Bid Contracts: Barack Obama will end abuse of no-bid contracts by requiring that nearly all contract orders over $25,000 be competitively awarded.

Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.

Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending: Obama’s Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate.

Hold 21st Century Fireside Chats: Obama will bring democracy and policy directly to the people by requiring his Cabinet officials to have periodic national broadband townhall meetings to discuss issues before their agencies.

Make White House Communications Public: Obama will amend executive orders to ensure that communications about regulatory policymaking between persons outside government and all White House staff are disclosed to the public.

Conduct Regulatory Agency Business in Public: Obama will require his appointees who lead the executive branch departments and rulemaking agencies to conduct the significant business of the agency in public, so that any citizen can watch these debates in person or on the Internet.

Release Presidential Records: Obama will nullify the Bush attempts to make the timely release of presidential records more difficult.

Close the Revolving Door on Former and Future Employers: No political appointees in an Obama administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years. And no political appointee will be able to lobby the executive branch after leaving government service during the remainder of the administration.

Free Career Officials from the Influence of Politics: Obama will issue an executive order asking all new hires at the agencies to sign a form affirming that no political appointee offered them the job solely on the basis of political affiliation or contribution.

Reform the Political Appointee Process: FEMA Director Michael Brown was not qualified to head the agency, and the result was a disaster for the people of the Gulf Coast. But in an Obama administration, every official will have to rise to the standard of proven excellence in the agency’s mission.

Fight for Fair Trade: Obama will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. He will use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central American Free Trade Agreement that fail to live up to those important benchmarks. Obama will also pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce trade agreements and stop countries from continuing unfair government subsidies to foreign exporters and nontariff barriers on U.S. exports.

Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama believes that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. Obama will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers.

Improve Transition Assistance: To help all workers adapt to a rapidly changing economy, Obama would update the existing system of Trade Adjustment Assistance by extending it to service industries, creating flexible education accounts to help workers retrain, and providing retraining assistance for workers in sectors of the economy vulnerable to dislocation before they lose their jobs.

Ensure Freedom to Unionize: Obama believes that workers should have the freedom to choose whether to join a union without harassment or intimidation from their employers. Obama cosponsored and is strong advocate for the Employee Free Choice Act, a bipartisan effort to assure that workers can exercise their right to organize. He will continue to fight for EFCA’s passage and sign it into law.

Fight Attacks on Workers’ Right to Organize: Obama has fought the Bush National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) efforts to strip workers of their right to organize. He is a cosponsor of legislation to overturn the NLRB’s “Kentucky River” decisions classifying hundreds of thousands of nurses, construction, and professional workers as “supervisors” who are not protected by federal labor laws.

Protect Striking Workers: Obama supports the right of workers to bargain collectively and strike if necessary. He will work to ban the permanent replacement of striking workers, so workers can stand up for themselves without worrying about losing their livelihoods.

Raise the Minimum Wage: Barack Obama will raise the minimum wage, index it to inflation and increase the Earned Income Tax Credit to make sure that full-time workers earn a living wage that allows them to raise their families and pay for basic needs.

End Tax Haven Abuse: Building on his bipartisan work in the Senate, Obama will give the Treasury Department the tools it needs to stop the abuse of tax shelters and offshore tax havens and help close the $350 billion tax gap between taxes owed and taxes paid.

Close Special Interest Corporate Loopholes: Obama will level the playing field for all businesses by eliminating special-interest loopholes and deductions, such as those for the oil and gas industry.

Reinstate PAYGO Rules: Obama believes that a critical step in restoring fiscal discipline is enforcing pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) budgeting rules which require new spending commitments or tax changes to be paid for by cuts to other programs or new revenue. (Lots of people don't support this -- **I DO**)


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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:47 AM
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11. So much for Obama being short on specifics!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:42 PM
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16. Notice no response from the OP. This is what happens EVERY time I answer the charge
...with my own words + obamas plans that are too much to recite from memory.
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GDavis Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:55 AM
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14. No change in health care situation
There is zero chance of that happening - it's all talk.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:01 AM
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15. At this point it is about the spirit of change
because you don't want to turn people away from unity by getting too specific in such a way that it gives you enemies fodder to attack.

But in a general sense you might mis this message because it is a generational message. It's a message for people with no hope in todays world because some grey hair old fuck has them under his legislative thumb of oppression and corruption.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 05:43 PM
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18. Taking Lobbyist out of the system.
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:00 PM
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19. Nothing
The real candidates of change were ignored by a bunch of feel good words and good speeches.

Rather disgusting really.
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