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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:58 AM
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Are Repugs Gaming Texas because they have Dirt on Obama?
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 09:59 AM by Ian_walker
Are the Repugs Gaming Texas because they have Dirt on Obama?

Link to repug Email thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4724280

Yes or No
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:58 AM
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1. No
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:13 AM
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16. I agree - Rezko "dirt" won't stick - but Commander in Chief need makes Hillary harder to beat in gen
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 10:14 AM by papau
perhaps Obama can get by McCain's C of C attack

perhaps not

but the current polls mean nothing


http://ironmyvote.com/obamas-popular-vote.htm

From a "Republicans for Obama" website:

http://ironmyvote.com/obamas-popular-vote.htm

Its on a site called Republicans for obama in texas
Home » Groups » Texas R.F.O. Primary Petition for Obama
E-mail to send to all your Republican friends
Sat, 02/16/2008 - 10:41pm
Attention All Texas Republicans and Independents!!
On March 4th, Texas Republicans and Independents will have an opportunity to end Hillary Clinton’s (and Bill’s) presidential ambitions once and for all!
Since Texas has on open primary, Republicans and Independents should sign in at their polling place and request a Democratic ballot. They should then vote for Barack Obama. Even James Carville admits that if Hillary loses Texas, “she’s done!” Republicans can help make this a reality!!! Just think, no more Clintons in the White House!
Voting Democratic this one time will have NO effect on your ability to vote in the next Republican primary or obviously on your vote in November. Since John McCain has the Republican nomination locked up, voting for McCain or Huckabee at this point will have no effect on the outcome on the Republican side.
After you vote during early voting or on March 4th, you ARE NOT done! Report back to your regular polling place at 7PM on March 4th to sign the Barack Obama list for caucus delegates. In a little known Texas voting quirk, 67 delegates to the Democratic convention will be seated because of these caucuses. This is a full one-third of the total number of Texas delegates. For Hillary to lose, she has to lose the primary votes AND the caucus votes. I urge you to vote against Hillary Clinton by voting for Barack Obama.
Please forward this e-mail to all your Republican and Independent friends so that we can help ensure the Clinton’s defeat on March 4th!!!


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Similar instructions from the Obama campaign:

Here’s a video from the Obama campaign

Slickly produced, promoting their “Democrat for a Day” scheme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUE4Kp0YERs

Obama Web page in Florida:

The following has been scrubbed from the web but was up for months at an Obama campaign site:
Quoting from the Google cache “as retrieved on Nov 30, 2007 02:11:00 GMT”
http:/ / www.google.com/search?q=cache:MVQ9FvgfVwoJ:www.obamaflo...

WANNA BECOME AN OBAMACRAT?!!!
By Obama Florida 2008
Published: April 24, 2007
….
That’s why “Democrat for a Day” was launched this spring by ObamaFlorida2008. Using the official forms provided by all Supervisors of Elections offices, you may re-register as a Democrat for that one day — when the primary is likely to be held — on February 5, 2008. You must do so before the end of 2007, to make sure it is done 30 days before the primary.
But this is not about some “hard sell” to recruit voters to become permanent Democrats. Not at all. After the primary, you may re-register back to the Republican or Libertarian parties, or revert to your previous status as an Independent! There will be plenty of time before the general election in November 2008.
….
But we’re finding that up to 20 percent of Obama supporters are registered Republicans.
In fact, during the first couple of weeks in April, some 150 Republicans indeed became “Democrats for a Day.” You might call them “Obamacrats!”

Obama Flyer in Nevada:

A flyer was distributed in Nevada by an Obama precinct captain, similar to the above Florida page - http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26826


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Similar efforts:

Dick Morris’ explicit instructions to Republicans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt_jnhsyqg0

Obama’s Democrat for a Day training video: http://www . youtube.com/watch?v=JUE4Kp0YERs

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on 2-19-2008 also talked about Republicans having "some fun" voting for Obama:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23255694 /
MATTHEWS: Let me talk to you. Let me go right now, Ron, is that your theory, that—well, it‘s mine, too—that if you can vote if you‘re a moderate or independent voter or you‘re a Republican who doesn‘t think it‘s important to vote on the Republican side, since it‘s locked up for McCain, have some fun and vote for somebody you have sort of an interest in, Barack Obama, perhaps?


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More leads
-- we need to collect evidence of GOP crossover in many different locales, so that the superdelegates in each locale will understand where Obama's 'popular' vote is coming from

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/ap_on_el_pr/open_primaries_1


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If anyone has more evidence to add, pls email 1950democrat - a t - g m a i l . c o m or post it at http://1950democrat.livejournal.com/55788.html (may not appear immediately).

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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:14 PM
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32. THIS FOX VIDEO PROVES IT
Thanks for this evidense from papau

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt_jnhsyqg0
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:59 AM
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2. And the "dirt" is....?
I love how these rumors start: SO so innocently. I'm sure you have the best of intentions. You're CONCERNED about Obama, aren't ya?
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:02 AM
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6. Dont know of any dirt..
I do not know of any dirt. Nor would I want to discuss dirt on Obama as that would be doing the Repug's job for them.

What I do know is all the dirt they have to smear Hillary with, they have already used.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:24 AM
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20. um, no. do try and keep up
there's lots of new dirt on Hillary and Bill and it's been on the front page of the NYT. Pretty easy for pubs to find, wouldn't you say?
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:04 AM
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26. Apparently the Repugs already have the dirt
Better to get them to use it now. Out in the open clears it up faster.

Link to thread discussing post Pedestaling smear campaign
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4724674
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:22 PM
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35. Seriously. It's like these people think time stopped in the year 2000.
Bill hasn't been able to keep it in his pants since then, forgodssake. And the GOP has been remarkably quiet about it. Wonder why. Hmmm, you'd think they were waiting for a more advantageous time to use it, or something.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:59 AM
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3. Who said they're gaming TX? Gotta link? nt
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:03 AM
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7. Edited first page to include the link
As I just said in the title link the first post.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:00 AM
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4. well.... i am still waiting for that shoe to drop, that is why the rethug media is campaigning
for him, i fear
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:02 AM
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5. If there was a shoe that was going to drop, it would have dropped by now.
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:05 AM
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9. I Think They Are Waiting For The GE
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 10:28 AM by Ivote
I am starting to hear subtle nuances in the media & on the net.
All I can say it is UGLY & going to get UGLIER
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:09 AM
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11. they want him nominated, so they can embarrass us by having to run a/the loser
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:10 AM
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13. Right.
:rofl:
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:37 AM
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29. I do not think he would be a looser
I am more interested in vaccinating Dems against Repug strategies.

Obama is going to be smeared no if buts or maybes.

Hillary has had to endure it for decades now.

Obama has not got the defenses yet.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:20 PM
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33. ..i meant they'd Swift Boat him, he'd have to resign an hillery would run as second Best, not chosen
..thus we have to run a loser.. for president
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:59 PM
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37. There is of course still the Dream ticket
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:04 AM
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8. How misleading could you possibly
be??? There is NOTHING in that email that suggests that the repukes have anything on Obama, but you know that. The email speaks to the out of control hate that they have for the Clintons.
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texas_indy Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:10 AM
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12. Would someone please forward the meeting time and places of the republican "anti-Obama" conspiracy
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 10:10 AM by texas_indy
meetings in the DFW metroplex. I've checked with friend and family members who are republicans and they are unaware of them up here.

I'd like to make sure they don't miss anymore "anti-Obama" strategy sessions or they will probably be in dutch with his highness *.

Thanks in advance for your help.



Texas is Obama country.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:11 AM
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14. i have felt this since the Fascist media started campaigning for him
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:17 AM
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17. The process is called pedestaling
You build the person up on pedestal so you can knock them down latter.

The Media do it all the time to celebritys Briteney Spears, Paris Hilton, The Osbournes

The Media are doing exactly the same to Obama.

Remember the nastier part of the media is owned by the Repugs

When you build someone up that much knocking them down is very very easy

And the bigger they are the harder they fall.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:22 AM
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19. simplistic. I don't live in that kind of simplistic world.
I recognize that Obama's success is due to a confluence of many different factors. I'm always amused though, by people who do lap up the simple minded stuff.
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:29 AM
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23. Simple works complicated is for stupid people
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:18 AM
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18. It's not even an official email!!
It's a post by one of the group's supporters in the site forum!
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:20 PM
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34. Proof Repugs are Gaming Texas
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:08 AM
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10. no
Probably not. This is just the republican's chance to vanquish the one candidate that's for mandated universal health care. That's a pretty sacred cow.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:11 AM
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15. Because there's no dirt about Hillary and Clinton Library funders from India about to break
None at all...

:eyes:
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:26 AM
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21. dunno... but the right is certainly talking about it
http://www.humanevents.com/offers/offer.php?id=HEO104


If you want to dirty yourself, you can see what these whackos have stored up on him...


Don't forget this bon mot by Tucker Carlson


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4650043

Hell even the Canadians right wing wackos are into it, calling him a commie:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1938

And then there's the whole Ayers/PLO Angle:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-c-johnson/no-he-cant-because-yes_b_87036.html


And don't forget about excelon:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/obama-hearts-nuke-giant-e_b_84824.html

seriously... I could go on for days...

There is dirt aplenty and they can't wait to unleash it into the mainstream.

This election is going to be a bloodbath.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:28 AM
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22. Is HRC using this theme to choke the intertubes and prevent discussion of her downward spiral?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:30 AM
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24. I don't think they've done a movie on him yet.
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:53 AM
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25. Ask your self Why?
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:17 AM
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27. See post #22.
Whenever an anti-Obama meme suddenly breaks out everywhere on DU, it's the latest of Hillary's attempts to drive down Obama's negatives.
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:26 AM
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28. So why are Repugs talking up Obama?
In WWII before D Day the allies talked up an attack on the Pas de Calais so that the Normandy Beaches were free.

There has not been a single Repug Attack add on Obama. WHY?
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texas_indy Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:48 AM
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30. Because they thought they would be running against Hillary.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/repbulicans_gearing_up_to_atta.php

"After spending at least the past year planning on how they'd run against Hillary Clinton in 2008, Republican operatives are now busy putting together a plan of attack against Barack Obama now that he's currently out front for the Democrats."


Texas is Obama country!
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:28 PM
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36. Repug media put him on a pedestal, WHY?
The did not just not put up a single attack ad against him the also put him on a pedestal. They would only do that because they know they can KNOCK HIM DOWN any time they want.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:19 AM
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38. Easy.
They thought Super Tuesday would win the nomination for her. They worked on her for nearly two decades and have made it an art form and cottage industry. With Obama, if he wins, they have to start from scratch.
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busymom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:50 AM
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31. I know this is an untouchable topic
and I do NOT bring it up because I think it is in any way true or because I feel the topic should be given any validity...but I knows certain republicans just waiting for the release of the L. Sinclair polygraph results Mond. or Tues.

It is dispicable..it is low...it isn't worth talking about...but I think there is some banking on that kind of smear.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:24 AM
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39. Nice try.
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