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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:12 AM
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Todays Talking Points
1) Obama is winning because of an organized effort by those sneaky Republicans to vote for him in the Democratic primaries.

2) Obama hates black people and especially New Orleans black people.

Hopefully Clinton will concede after March 4 and this nonsense can stop.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:14 AM
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1. LOL
I noticed that too.

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:15 AM
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2. Obama eats puppies too
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:17 AM
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3. 3. Michelle Obama is a closet black supremacist.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:18 AM
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4. Well they're certainly being used, aren't they?
I used to read along for information. ;-)
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:19 AM
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5. Oh, you forgot one....
Obama is a Muslim.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:25 AM
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8. That one has a permanent sticky.
Fortunately it appears to not be allowed in GDP.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:20 AM
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6. I just opened DU and saw nothing but anti-Obama smears.. nothing but. It would
seem this is the Hillcamps last dying stutter, a pathetic attempt to spam the board with slurs and slander and RW garbage about the likely democratic nominee. Rather than reading this tripe on a "democratic" board, and rather than engaging in meaningless conversation with people who are here for one reason only, I'll leave the board to them and hope they enjoy a mass circle jerk until Hillary concedes.

There are better ways for Obama supporters to spend their time and energy. If they have only themselves to argue with, I imagine they'll get bored and wander off elsewhere. I believe there's a good permanent home for them down the hall, and to the right.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:26 AM
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9. They're being kind of obvious, aren't they? Maybe HRC can't afford the pros anymore.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:27 AM
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22. She could use them on the ground in OH and TX
Maybe they could stop typing and start canvassing, since she's out of money to pay for staff.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:27 PM
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36. still whining. guess you are still blury eyed. you missed the Hillary hate posts.
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texas_indy Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:23 AM
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7. Sure seems to be a pattern with the anti-Obama attacks. Gosh, wonder why?? (nt)
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:26 AM
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10. Then the real nonsense would begin n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:28 AM
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11. I forgot: 3) Obama is being setup for a media take down
Which is really sort of a corollary of (1), the sneaky Republican bastards are selecting him for us so that they have a target for their bullshit media smear machine. (Clinton it seems would be immune from attack.)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:44 AM
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12. Paranoid much??
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:29 AM
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24. Observe ever?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:48 AM
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13. 10 more days of their crap... and then it magically goes away....


A) the Hillbots will stop getting paid

B) the Freepers spreading mischief will get tombstoned when they post an article against our candidate

C) Those sincere, non-paid Hillary fans that are here will join the winning team


Hang tough, folks. Hillary sees the writing on the wall and knows this will be over next Tuesday night.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:55 AM
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30. I'm not a Hillbot, I've made my reasons plain why I support her. Why supporting a Democratic
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 12:04 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
candidate brings on the name calling, on a Democratic message board, continues to puzzle me.

And, I'm proud to say I've never said one derogatory or negative thing about Sen. Obama. I happen to think he's a great candidate even if his supporters here on DU resort to calling me names for supporting the candidate against whom he's running in the DEMOCRATIC primary.

Hilbot, Shillbot, Billary, whatever you want to call me, you're the one who has to live with your own behavior. At least I can put you on ignore.

edit, spelling
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:27 PM
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38. One of the few, the proud
I have respect for anyone who really SUPPORTS Hillary without feeling the need to tear down our likely nominee. Unfortunately, you have far too little company these days.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:50 AM
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14. Hopefully she begins to win, and the criticisms of her will stop.
Today's Talking Points

1) Allowing voters to register their choice in the upcoming contests will 'damage the party'

2) Anyone criticizing Obama is criticizing his supporters as 'delusional'

3) Clinton can't win
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:14 AM
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16. Repeat talking points I see--very effective Rovian tactic.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:25 AM
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20. actually, its an old game we played as children
to aggravate each other
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:25 PM
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35. oh my--you are right.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:52 AM
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15. So it's the Clintons that are putting the talking points out there?
Sorry man. Get used to this, and it will only get worse when, and if, Obama gets the nomination. I find it kind of silly that you think this will go away when Obama becomes the ONLY target.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:17 AM
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17. We're not stupid. We know Republicans will go after Obama.
This is about so-called Democrats during the primary season coming on DU with the same talking points, starting anti-Obama threads because their candidate has lost 11 contests in a row.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:23 AM
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19. DU doesn't matter. Spend a little time in the real world
and you'll find the opinions of most of us here at DU do not match the opinions of those in the real world.

Hell, if I based my support, or lack of support, for a candidate on what I read here on DU, I couldn't support anyone.

By the way, if you start to find yourself thinking that any of this matters, consider the fact that John Edwards was winning every poll here by about a two to one margin.

DU is smart. The world is stupid. Remember that, and you'll be fine.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:29 AM
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23. "most of us here at DU do not match the opinions"
While that might be true, the attack posts and concern posts almost invariably echo the same noise echoing throughout the bullshit media system.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:34 AM
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26. Those are the dumb people, just ignore them.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:34 AM
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27. The world is not "stupid". There are good reasons why Edwards didn't make it.
Most of the DU members never even voted in those polls Edwards won. I know I didn't vote.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:41 AM
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29. That's just silly.
I'm really not trying to have an argument with you here, but you really shouldn't say something you have no way of backing up and just expect me to accept it.

There is a reason why John polled so well on DU, we're for the most part very involved people and we know the issues, and we know what's going on in the world of politics.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:27 AM
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21. Where did I say the Clintons are doing it?
What will go away is that people here on DU will not be allowed to post outright bullshit smears against our candidate. Instead they will have to present the talking points as 'concerns', as in 'I'm very concerned that about this Obama is a Muslim email'.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:06 PM
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34. Actually you didn't.
I didn't mean to infer that you did. Sometimes there's just some much crap being thrown around here, that it's hard to tell where it's coming form.

Perhaps it was the March 4th remark that led me to believe you we speaking of the Clintons.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM
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37. March 4th is when Clinton will gracefully withdraw and GDP
will be removed from its current status as a (3-post-limit) free fire zone of smears against Democrats. To be clear and fair: the crap has been widespread and probably fairly distributed between pro-Clinton posters, pro-Obama posters, and freeper trolls who are just enjoying stirring shit up.

I, (and aren't we all?) am weary of what has become a massively negative primary campaign season here. The temptation to just abandon ship on DU entirely for the duration was strong, although the decision to semi-dungeon GDP has helped. I am fine with harsh debate over issues, I simply lose patience with "the price of Edward's haircut" style mudslinging that has characterized 90% of the volume here. We have become a mirror of the mindlessness of cable noise.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:19 AM
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18. Nominated.
There are some pretty sad people posting that type of nonsense on DU today. You have to laugh about it.

Thanks for this.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:30 AM
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25. Next week: Obama once farted in an elevator.
Vote Hillary!™
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:37 AM
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28. Wow....
you guys just can't take the heat so you want Hillary to drop out....that doesn't bode well for how you will handle the rightwing.

Weinies.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:50 PM
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31. Actually at this point I think that Hillary wants to drop out.
Running down the back end of a failed campaign isn't a whole lot of fun. However Obama seems to be fine with taking the heat. The attacks from the right appear to be approximately the same as the attacks from the Clinton camp. My only point is that perhaps we here in DU ought to start withdrawing from the endgame and stop with the endless regurgitation of the latest attacks. On both sides. Its over.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM
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39. You're right. Those 11 straight losses to Obama are just TOO MUCH HEAT
:rofl:
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:51 PM
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32. You forgot. Obama supports terrorists.
The MOVEMENT will not be derailed by the closet fears of the pro-corporate Dems (?) posting for Hillary.

J
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 01:03 PM
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33. todays talking point on the Right....just wanted to show you what is being said
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 01:04 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
By: Ronald Kessler Article Font Size




Michelle Obama’s comment that, for the first time in her adult life, she feels proud of America helps crystallize who Barack Obama is.

To be sure, the wife of a candidate is perfectly free to have views that are distinct from her husband’s. But on a matter that is so fundamental to one’s being as love of country, it is difficult to imagine that Michelle Obama would publicly twice make such a statement suggesting disdain for America unless she felt it comported with her husband’s views.

Equally important, her statement aligns perfectly with the hate-America views of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama’s minister, friend, and sounding board for more than two decades. On the Sunday following 9/11, Wright characterized the terrorist attacks as a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later, Wright suggested that the attacks were retribution for America’s racism.

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in his church magazine Trumpet. “White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”

Wright has been a key supporter of Louis Farrakhan, and in December, honored the Nation of Islam leader for lifetime achievement, saying he “truly epitomize greatness.”

Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews, whites, America, and homosexuals.

Those who think two of the closest people to Obama could publicly make anti-America statements unless Obama himself felt that way, are fooling themselves. To date, Obama has proven himself to be nothing more than a great orator, rendering the statements of those around him even more important in illuminating his true character and agenda. During his Senate career, he skipped 17 percent of the votes and sponsored only one bill that became law. That bill was to promote “relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.”

Bereft of official accomplishments, Obama has distinguished himself mainly by being against measures that protect American security, such as finishing the mission in Iraq. If we were to leave Iraq quickly, as Obama vows he would do, it would become a launch pad for al-Qaida attacks on the U.S.

Obama avoided voting on extending the Protect America Act, thus putting America at risk when immediate interception of terrorist communications is required. Last August, Obama voted against a measure that would have allowed the U.S. to continue to monitor overseas conversations of terrorists like Osama bin Laden without first obtaining a warrant.

If his radical vote had prevailed, bin Laden would have been given the same rights as Americans.

To this day, Obama has not distanced himself from most of Rev. Wright’s comments. In a statement supposedly issued to address the matter, Obama ignored the point that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Farrakhan and that Wright’s church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader. Instead, as outlined in a Jan. 17 Newsmax article, he disingenuously claimed he thought the magazine bestowed the award on Farrakhan for his efforts to rehabilitate ex-prisoners.


Neither Wright’s encomiums about Farrakhan nor the Trumpet article mentions ex-prisoners.


Similarly, after John McCain’s wife Cindy responded to Michelle Obama’s remarks by telling a Wisconsin rally, “I have, and always will be, proud of my country,” Barack Obama told a radio interviewer that his wife did not say what people think she said. He then proceeded to rewrite her comments, claiming that she had meant she was encouraged by the “large numbers of people” who have gotten involved in the political process. Michelle Obama then made a similar revision of her remarks.

In her speech in Milwaukee, Michelle Obama said flatly, “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.”

And what has been wrong with America up to now? That it gave Michelle the opportunity to attend Princeton and Harvard Law School? That it gave Barack Obama the chance to attend Columbia University and Harvard Law School and become a U.S. senator making more than $1 million a year from book royalties?

Was it that America stopped Nazi Germany from continuing to murder millions of Jews? That America has provided Africa and other countries with $15 billion to combat the spread of AIDS/HIV and that another $30 billion is on the way? That 46 percent of all Americans classified by the Census Bureau as poor own their own homes, 76 percent of them have air conditioning, and 75 percent of them have at least one car? Or that America allows us to express our views freely without fear of being put in jail, as is the case in Russia?

A lawyer, Michelle Obama is perfectly capable of expressing herself precisely. In fact, she spoke from a written speech.

Those who do not want to believe she meant what she said — and that Barack Obama could not be so close to Rev. Wright if he did not himself believe in much of what he has said — are in denial.

The real Barack Obama is starting to emerge, and for those of us who are grateful to America for everything it represents, it is not a pretty sight.
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