Have Repug Media Pedestaled Obama to Knock him down?

[Ian_walker]

Question is in the title
Have Repug Media Pedestaled Obama to Knock him down?

Simple answer

Yes or No

Link to thread discussing Texas Repug email calling for Repugs to Game Texas vote to get Obama in
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4724450

Dictionary meaning from here
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pedestaling

put someone/something on a pedestal
to behave as if one person is more important than others. They put the local doctor on a pedestal, seldom questioning his word or his authority. Professional athletes are often put on a pedestal, and they forget that the fans pay their salaries.
Usage notes: the opposite meaning is expressed by take or knock someone off their pedestal: You know something will happen that will knock her off her pedestal.

[doc03]

1. Yes! n/t

[Ian_walker]

25. Part of a Repug D Day misdirection strategy

In WWII the Allies misdirected Hitler by dropping most of their bombs as if they would attack the Pas De Calais when their real target was Normandy.

Few or No bombs on Normandy

Today Repugs are misdirecting Dem's by mostly attacking Hillary because they want to fight Obama.

Few in-fact near as dammit no Attacks on Obama

WHY?

[onenote]

2. no

[Ian_walker]

18. Ask yourself Why there have been no Repug media attack adds on Obama?

All this time and the media have peen putting Obama up on a pedestal.

saying how great he is how wonderful. Not a word against him.

GET REAL PEOPLE THIS IS THE REPUG MEDIA!

They do things for reason.

[Dogmudgeon]

3. Yes.

But they are not perfect. They can mess up.

Good for Democrats, but maybe too late for Hillary.

--p!

[Ian_walker]

27. THIS VIDEO PROVES IT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt_jnhsyqg0

[papau]

4. Gop "crossover appeal" and Media that is gentle is part of get weakest for gen plan - memos below:

http://ironmyvote.com/obamas-popular-vote.htm

From a "Republicans for Obama" website:

http://ironmyvote.com/obamas-popular-vote.htm

Its on a site called Republicans for obama in texas
Home » Groups » Texas R.F.O. Primary Petition for Obama
E-mail to send to all your Republican friends
Sat, 02/16/2008 - 10:41pm
Attention All Texas Republicans and Independents!!
On March 4th, Texas Republicans and Independents will have an opportunity to end Hillary Clinton’s (and Bill’s) presidential ambitions once and for all!
Since Texas has on open primary, Republicans and Independents should sign in at their polling place and request a Democratic ballot. They should then vote for Barack Obama. Even James Carville admits that if Hillary loses Texas, “she’s done!” Republicans can help make this a reality!!! Just think, no more Clintons in the White House!
Voting Democratic this one time will have NO effect on your ability to vote in the next Republican primary or obviously on your vote in November. Since John McCain has the Republican nomination locked up, voting for McCain or Huckabee at this point will have no effect on the outcome on the Republican side.
After you vote during early voting or on March 4th, you ARE NOT done! Report back to your regular polling place at 7PM on March 4th to sign the Barack Obama list for caucus delegates. In a little known Texas voting quirk, 67 delegates to the Democratic convention will be seated because of these caucuses. This is a full one-third of the total number of Texas delegates. For Hillary to lose, she has to lose the primary votes AND the caucus votes. I urge you to vote against Hillary Clinton by voting for Barack Obama.
Please forward this e-mail to all your Republican and Independent friends so that we can help ensure the Clinton’s defeat on March 4th!!!


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Similar instructions from the Obama campaign:

Here’s a video from the Obama campaign

Slickly produced, promoting their “Democrat for a Day” scheme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUE4Kp0YERs

Obama Web page in Florida:

The following has been scrubbed from the web but was up for months at an Obama campaign site:
Quoting from the Google cache “as retrieved on Nov 30, 2007 02:11:00 GMT”
http:/ / www.google.com/search?q=cache:MVQ9FvgfVwoJ:www.obamaflo...

WANNA BECOME AN OBAMACRAT?!!!
By Obama Florida 2008
Published: April 24, 2007
….
That’s why “Democrat for a Day” was launched this spring by ObamaFlorida2008. Using the official forms provided by all Supervisors of Elections offices, you may re-register as a Democrat for that one day — when the primary is likely to be held — on February 5, 2008. You must do so before the end of 2007, to make sure it is done 30 days before the primary.
But this is not about some “hard sell” to recruit voters to become permanent Democrats. Not at all. After the primary, you may re-register back to the Republican or Libertarian parties, or revert to your previous status as an Independent! There will be plenty of time before the general election in November 2008.
….
But we’re finding that up to 20 percent of Obama supporters are registered Republicans.
In fact, during the first couple of weeks in April, some 150 Republicans indeed became “Democrats for a Day.” You might call them “Obamacrats!”

Obama Flyer in Nevada:

A flyer was distributed in Nevada by an Obama precinct captain, similar to the above Florida page - http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26826


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Similar efforts:

Dick Morris’ explicit instructions to Republicans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt_jnhsyqg0

Obama’s Democrat for a Day training video: http://www . youtube.com/watch?v=JUE4Kp0YERs

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on 2-19-2008 also talked about Republicans having "some fun" voting for Obama:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23255694 /
MATTHEWS: Let me talk to you. Let me go right now, Ron, is that your theory, that—well, it‘s mine, too—that if you can vote if you‘re a moderate or independent voter or you‘re a Republican who doesn‘t think it‘s important to vote on the Republican side, since it‘s locked up for McCain, have some fun and vote for somebody you have sort of an interest in, Barack Obama, perhaps?


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More leads
-- we need to collect evidence of GOP crossover in many different locales, so that the superdelegates in each locale will understand where Obama's 'popular' vote is coming from

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/ap_on_el_pr/open_primaries_1


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If anyone has more evidence to add, pls email 1950democrat - a t - g m a i l . c o m or post it at http://1950democrat.livejournal.com/55788.html (may not appear immediately).

[Ian_walker]

22. Well spotted

And there we have the strategy.

[lonestarnot]

5. Hell no.

[Ian_walker]

24. Well you got that wrong

Here is a link to the thread where Repugs were found discussing the post pedestal smear campaign
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4724674

[lonestarnot]

32. Just a bunch of bushitler talk. Hey you can vote 3 times in TX w/o going to jail.

Planning on moving or are you already there?

[tekisui]

6. They'll try. They'll fail. Fuck 'em.

[Ian_walker]

31. Momentum is faster down than up Pedestaling is about and gravity is a b**ch

The whole idea about Pedestaling is that you send a person on a meteoric rise before you kick the pedestal out from under them; just to watch them crash and burn on re-entry.

See what happened to celebs like Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, The Osborne's etc.

The Repug media do things for a reason. The Repug media have had all that practice and even have people who graph how much time a person is down until the bounce back. The attack will be timed to hit Obama so he is at the bottom of the curve for the election.

No Repug Media attack adverts on Obama ask your WHY?

[Darth_Kitten]

7. Yes, it's only logical........

in a sick way of course, but if there are still people who are surprised about this, get your heads out of the sand!

[cali]

8. It's not binary and thus impossible to answer yes or no to

Your question betrays a simplistic view. I don't live in that kind of simplistic world.
I recognize that Obama's success is due to a confluence of many different factors. I'm always amused though, by people who do lap up the simple minded stuff.

To assume that the coverage that Obama has received from the MSM is part of a massive conspiracy is very simplistic.

[scheming daemons]

9. "pedestaled" a new Freeper verb....

...welcome do DU.

:eyes:

[Ian_walker]

10. It is in all dictionaries

Take your pick all the dictionaries check the link below it has been in them for a long long time

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLR_enGB247GB247&q=pedestaling

[Eurobabe]

11. If you ask the crepehanging HRC supporters, yes.

Otherwise no.

[texas_indy]

13. No. But it easier to claim this than face the real facts for why Hillary is losing. (nt)

[Ian_walker]

35. It is about Repugs setting up Obama to kick him down

[high density]

12. How many times are you going to POST THE SAME EXACT BULLSHIT?

Republicans for Obama is a group that is FOR OBAMA. You are talking about a forum post by one member of their group, not an official distribution or policy paper by any means.

[Ian_walker]

15. Me thinks the man doth Protest too much

[SKKY]

14. It's a lot like what they did with Bush...

...but in reverse. Set the bar so ridiculously low so that, when he doesn't totally suck, he's really "rising to the occasion". He did it in 3 degates with Gore, and again with Kerry.

[Ian_walker]

21. If you know the strategy then you can begin to beat it.

Knowledge is power. Knowing what your enemy thinks is the first step to beating them.

[high density]

16. No, that group actually wants Obama to win the election

And if you spent thirty seconds actually looking at their site, instead of one post by one of their forum members, you would know this.

[Ian_walker]

17. Link to thread discussing Repug Post Pedestal Smear Campaign

Hi all

Here is a link to the thread where Repugs were found discussing the post pedestal smear campaign

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4724674

Repug strategy on view people Knowledge makes you free

[doc03]

19. No real Republican that I know is going

vote for a black guy named Barrack Hussein Obama period.

[devilindisguise]

20. The will vote for him in open primaries and caucases

But they will vote for McCain in November. I have seen what's been going on, and realized a long time ago that we are sure to have the warmongering McCain for president. Our sons will then be sent to every middle eastern countries to fight and try to impose "democracy" on them. They don't want democracy, any more than we wanted "communism" and they will fight. The goal IMO is to keep us engaged in many wars, kill many people, reinstate the draft, and do away with the middle class. Right now we are in a depression and they are saying it's a recession. What is the difference. We need strong leadership and we need Hillary Clinton's knowledge, and yes - Bill Clinton's knowledge and intelligent thinking.

[sueragingroz]

23. yes

[tabatha]

26. If the numbers were there it could have a small chance of working.

But more people call themselves Democrats these days than those who call themselves Republicans.
Democrats are coming out in far greater numbers than Republicans.

Those who wish to play this game, are not realistic.
Obama is being voted for by far more numbers of Democrats than the few Republicans who are crossing over.
And there were Republicans who crossed over for Hillary.
So I think those two groups cancel each other out.

It is a numbers game, and it won't work because the devious Repubs do not have the numbers to pull it off.

This is just a bunch of scare tactics.

[Ian_walker]

29. More Momentum going down than up is what the pedestaling is about gravity is a b**ch

The whole idea about Pedestaling is that you send a person a meteoric rise to watch them crash and burn on re-entry.

See what happened to celebs like Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, The Osborne's etc.

The Repug media do things for a reason.

The Repug media have had all that practice and even have people who graph how much time a person is down until the bounce back. The attack will be timed to hit Obama so he is at the bottom of the curve for the election.

No Repug Media attack adverts on Obama ask your WHY?

[LibDemAlways]

28. Simple answer - yes. However, I think the media's

tactic to knock him down was previewed last night on 20/20.

Here's the condensed version. The show was a series of "What would you do in this circumstance?" pieces. First they put an old junker car in the parking lot of a suburban public park. Then they got three clean cut white kids to trash it with spray paint and pry the doors with crow bars. Then they recorded the reactions of people passing by. Most just glanced over and kept on walking. Only one guy eventually called the cops on his cell phone.

Then the show pointed out that while this was going on two other people called the police on their cell phones to report that two black guys were parked in the same lot - that's right just sitting in a parked car. In fact, they were sleeping. The announcer came right out and said that people equate black males with crime.

Then the white kids were replaced by three black kids wearing oversized jackets and baggy pants. When they started trashing the car, the phone lines at the police station lit up. 10 people called the cops almost immediately. One woman later told 20/20 she called because she didn't like to see this in her "backyard."

20/20 would no doubt argue that they were merely conducting an experiment. I think it went beyond that. I think they knew damn well what they were doing - sending out a not so subtle message that white people still basically think of blacks as up to no good.

I think that's what we'll be seeing a lot more of this fall. Programming designed to race bait and get white people to chose the white guy - even if he is a corrupt old warmonger.

[GoldieAZ49]

30. Yes AND No

The media has helped however the media doesn't get 20,000 people to attend a stump speech.

What concerns me is the many months ahead, the fine line between infatuation and disillusionment

The old saying: The bigger they are, the harder they fall


If the media turns on Obama, and I mean turns UGLY, will he be able to sustain the momentum he has?

[Ian_walker]

34. How many will stick when the attack ads start? How many are real democrats?

Repug media are experts in pedestaling they practice on celebs whenever this is not an election year. They have it down to statistical science.

They turn millions of people on to a celeb then kick the pedestal out from under them and most of the fans leave. They have become so expert they can time it to the day when the celeb will hit the bottom of the curve. That is what all these media people in the Repugs do for a living. They graph peoples reaction and understand exactly how to create and run mass celeb movements. They even do Masters degrees in it.

How many will stick when the attack ads start? How many are real democrats who would vote for any democrat presidential candidate no matter who the party chose?

[angie_love]

33. NO

If Hillary is the nom, it will be far worse for her. I'll take my chances with Obama and hope he is able to defend himself. He will outraise McCain by probably 2:1, he will have enough money to rip him apart.