An Inconvenient Ticket: Hypothetical Independent Run....

[Aviation Pro]

...Senator Obama may be unstoppable, but here's something to think about and discuss and seeing as he hasn't endorsed either Senator it would be an interesting exercise:

Gore/Clinton on an independent ticket.

Stranger things have happened.

Discussion encouraged, flames ignored and snorted at.

[saltpoint]

1. My guess is that Al Gore likes Senator Clinton better than he does her

husband.

But a political alliance between the two in the face of Democratic primary voters' decision for someone else flies in the face of good judgment, and Al Gore is possessed of quite a bit of good judgment, and party loyalty as well.

It's an exciting notion but it doesn't have the ring of the strongly possible.

[Aviation Pro]

7. Yet in spite of the will of the voters....

...Senator Clinton's core would come over to such a ticket. President Gore, I believe, trumps all the goodwill built by Senator Obama because he has been right about everything for the last eight years.

[saltpoint]

11. Possibly some of Clinton's support would follow her, but quite a bit of

it will not.

Pledged delegates don't have the same leeway as an independent voter of any stripe. The convention is going to nominate Obama in your scenario and I don't think delegates or general election Democratic voters would consider bolting for a Gore/Clinton ticket in significant numbers.

Gore's stature, IMO, would be badly damaged if he were to announce as an independent. It would also reduce considerably his potential impact on the next president's environmental platform, which (I'm guessing) he hopes to strongly influence.

[Aviation Pro]

15. And yet as I read through Senator Obama's....

...energy position paper I couldn't help but notice that he's more in the camp of the cellulose based bio-fuel (which includes coal) than people know (check out his amendment on a House bill which directed funding toward Illinois basin coal). This is directly opposed to more progressive green and energy weaning efforts and is probably one reason why President Gore has witheld his endorsement.

[saltpoint]

17. If Obama does well in Texas and Ohio, Senator Clinton has a big

decision to make.

I believe most voters for whom the environment is a key issue will support the Democratic nominee over the Replublican nominee, and properly so.

[demnan]

2. I think not

It would be folly for Clinton, who still had a career in the Senate as a Democrat. As for Gore, I doubt he has the stomach for it anymore.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

3. I have been wondering if Gore/Edwards Independent ticket is planned

but I doubt Gore would ever run with Clinton.

[skipos]

4. DU has this bizarre obsession with independent tickets

NOT.
GOING.
TO.
HAPPEN.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. I know

I don't get it.

In a winner-take-all system, there will be two parties. No leftward independent or third party will ever do anything but ensure Republicans get elected.

[skepticscott]

20. Lots of people here

will never be happy with the mainstream candidates, no matter who they are, and they have these fantasies about their heroes riding in on white horses (and Independent tickets) to save the country and give them someone to vote for that they can feel all fuzzy-wuzzy about.

[Prefer]

5. Prominent Democrat = Hard to desert party.

Lieberman did it and look what it cost him

[Aviation Pro]

9. From what I've observed....

...it cost the good, but vile, Senator from CT nothing.

[Exilednight]

16. Except for his next election. Four more years and he is gone.

[cali]

6. No, politicaly stranger things have NOT happened.

Both Clinton and Gore are good and loyal democrats and you do them a disservice by suggesting they'd entertain any such thing and rip the country apart and install JMac.

[Aviation Pro]

10. Two words: Teddy Rex....

....don't be too sure.

[skepticscott]

8. Never happen in a million years

There's no way in the world that Hillary Clinton will play second fiddle for the next eight years, to anyone.

And even if she would, why would Gore step in only now to run as an Independent? If he really wanted to run, he could have tossed his hat in last fall as a Democrat.

[Aviation Pro]

13. Based on how....

...the thing masquarading as a human being has redefined the office, it is not a second fiddle.

[skepticscott]

18. That's only the case

if you consider Al Gore to be as much of a spoiled, incompetent, mealy-mouthed, blustering weasel as our current White House occupier.

[Eurobabe]

14. Oh good god.

You're kidding. Right?

Do you really think Al Gore wants anything to do with the Clintons?

:rofl: :rofl:

[splat]

19. If the poohbahs want that, they just drop a dime on Obama

[COFoothills]

21. Actually stranger things have not happened...

There is zero chance that Gore or Clinton, let alone both of them, would compete against the Dems.

ZERO

What are you smoking, dude?

[Rowdyboy]

22. Its more likely that Gore will run as Naders veepee on an independent ticket

Yeah, thats it, Nader/Gore in 2008....

[fishwax]

23. no, stranger things have never happened

If Gore wanted to run, he could have had the democratic nomination handily, and I see no chance that either Gore or Clinton will run as an independent.