Michael Moore Disses Hillary's Healthcare Plan

[catgirl]

"Insurance industry would love Hillary's healthcare plan."

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/michael-moore-says-insurance-industry-would-love-clintons-healthcare-plan-2008-02-22.html

[democrattotheend]

1. Thank you!

I am glad to see a respected progressive point out the fact that requiring everyone to purchase private, for-profit insurance is a subsidy to the insurance companies.

The first time I heard about a healthcare plan with mandates was Mitt Romney's plan in Massachusetts...I always thought it was a more Republican solution. Not saying there are no valid arguments in favor of mandates, but I never understood how mandates became the more progressive position.

[f the letter]

2. That's factual,

it lets them keep doing exactly what they're doing. i don't think Michael Moore likes Obama's health care plan either.. where is a candidate who will actually fix health care? Anyone? Oh yeah, he's too short.

[_Wayne_]

3. Michael Moore, and OP fail to mention Obama's plan is even worse than Hillary's

[mrreowwr_kittty]

7. He's calling Clinton out on her bullshit

Her plan is not "universal health care", it's mandatory health insurance.

[KaptBunnyPants]

16. “The two Democratic candidates don’t quite get it,” he said

"Moore noted that Clinton and Obama have received more campaign contributions from healthcare interests than any other presidential candidates, including all those who ran for the Republican nomination. Healthcare interests “know which way the wind is blowing” and believe the next president will be a Democrat, Moore said.

In place of the Clinton and Obama plans, Moore touted legislation sponsored by Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) that would extend Medicare benefits to the nation’s entire population. Conyers has endorsed Obama for president."

He supports single payer, and criticizes both candidates for not proposing that type of system. And, let's face it, we have no evidence to believe that either plan will be able to control spiraling healthcare costs. The healthcare industry is throwing a lot of money behind Democratic candidates in order to protect their massive, bankrupting profits; they certainly seem convinced that they will be able to game the new system.

[whatchamacallit]

4. Uh oh, get ready for an orgy of republican style Moore-Hate

:popcorn:

[Rosemary2205]

6. I'll take a coke with mine.

:9

[whatchamacallit]

9. ;-)

[maximusveritas]

8. The Clinton campaign is already on it

Here was their response:
"His movie notwithstanding, Michael Moore clearly doesn’t know a whole lot about how healthcare policy works"

Meanwhile, the Obama campaign refused to take a shot at Michael and stuck to simply defending themselves.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. Kick!

This is exactly what I have been saying! Both Clinton's and Obama's plans suck, but the insurance industry will looooooove mandates.

[Straight Shooter]

10. Keep letting the Republicans know you're on Obama's side, Michael.

That's the way to win them over.

Not.

[Voice for Peace]

13. He's not on Obama's side, he criticized both plans. nt

[Straight Shooter]

14. I believe he has spoken of his support for Obama. He certainly criticizes Hillary a lot.

But, yes, he has criticized both plans.

[Yael]

19. He spoke out in favor of John Edwards' approach a while back

But is still a Kucinich 676 supporter.

I still believe that Edwards' plan is the path to 676. Hopefully, with a sweep in November, the newly minted Democratic fillibuster-proof majority will consider implementing it.

[Voice for Peace]

22. Oh well. Things could be much worse. nt

[mtnsnake]

11. haha, Michael Moore. Now THERE'S someone who can help Obama (snicker)

lose. Just ask Wesley Clark.

[ORDem]

12. Moore is absolutely right on this one, single-payer is the only

thing that's proven to work. Otherwise you still have the same mess doctors and patients are in now, having multiple insurance companies control your care and with a veto on your coverage.

:dem:

[lumberjack_jeff]

15. He didn't endorse either one. But he did make a good point.

It's more important who is elected to congress. If enough representatives are brought in who support John Conyers medicare-for-all bill, neither Obama nor Clinton will veto it.

[GoldieAZ49]

17. Irrelevant - Michael Moore is not a credible source for anything

he is the kiss of death

[Sensitivity]

18. The shame is that Campbel Brown types are not willing to shut up Hill publicly

when she starts on her false indignation against Obama's lack of courage at a debate.

Both plans are compromises. Obama's is less punitive on behalf of the insurance industry.

[nonconformist]

20. They'll love Obama's plan, too.

And if people are so up in fucking arms about "mandates", how does he think single payer would fly right now? At least this plan is a start. Obama has basically given up the fight before it's even begun. I have no faith whatsoever that he would actually fight for health care. I have total and complete faith that Hillary will.

[MadHound]

21. Moore's right

Hillary's plan is nothing more than a huge giveaway to insurance companies. Not only will people be forced to buy insurance, but many of our tax dollars will also be paid to the insurance industry.

I'm not a big fan of either plan, but I abhor the parts of Hillary's plan that force people to participate, and that give a huge taxpayer gift to the insurance industry.