More Right-wing Crap about Michelle O's comment

[MariaS]

After reading an article that I followed off of BuzzFlash I became furious and decided to vent on my laptop. I know that the author of the hit piece is from Newsmax and is by definition not creditable but sometimes I just can't swallow their vile crap without screaming back. The following article was too full of bullshit for me to even copy any of it here but if would like to read the article here is the link Obama: we can do it!! yes we can we can not vote for Obama

I apologize for my lack of writing skills but I do what I can.

Pride in my Country Yeah Righhht.

Ok let’s count backwards from when I perceive my adult life to have begun, which would have been at 18. I was extremely excited because the year was 1976 and I would be able to participate in the presidential election and the prospect of voting was an inspiring event for me. So this is when I felt my pride at being an American was probably at its peak. The electing of my choice, Jimmy Carter, who in my opinion was a wonderful, kind, caring and god loving man that I wholeheartedly believed would do good things for us came to pass and pass it did once the Washington entrenched set out to destroy and discredit this caring man. My pride in my country was taken as fast as it was given. I believe and will always believe that Jimmy Carter wasn’t made for the cut throat politics of Washington and was never given a chance to accomplish as much as he was capable of. The real qualities of this great man were still to come once the special interest of D.C. were no longer able to beat him down. Today he is one of the very few sources of pride that I have in our government.

Carter, like myself and millions of others, believed that being President of the greatest country on earth was a huge step toward fixing problems that this country faced. Unfortunately for us we were wrong about that. Power and money is what guides the politics of Washington and the US Government. Compassion and caring are an afterthought and anyone who had the audacity to try and put the American people first was disrespected, discredited and disillusioned. Such was the Presidency of Jimmy Carter who made the politically fatal mistake of giving a crap. The Iran hostage crisis was the end of President Jimmy Carter and the end of my pride in my country as in comes Mr. Death Valley days Reagan. A smooth talker who mesmerized those who thought compassion and caring for the American people was passé and filling the coffers of the war machine was much more in line with their best interest.

As our actor president continued to fill the pockets of the Washington elite the effect were felt through out average America. Union busting, welfare queens and Iran Contra became the legacy of Ronald Reagan who’s only appeal for me was a rebellious dancing son. Sorry no pride there. Next came a leader from the bowels of America’s elite. George H. W. Bush. A man that served his country proudly but then proceed to give it away to special interests, the Saudis and his pals at the Carlyle Group. His legacy of “Read my Lips” and the invasion of Iraq on behalf of Kuwait (wink, wink) did nothing to restore my pride in America or the American way. Next we have Mr. Clinton our Rico Suave president who’s inability to keep it in his pants put this country thru 8 years of scandal, sensationalism, and the spending of our tax dollars, our extremely hard earned tax dollars, on a trial that took precedence over more important issues in this country. Anything that may have been remotely in behalf of the American people was put on the back burner by a vile republican hate machine that put their hatred of Clinton over their love of their country. Pride there? I think not.

All of this brings me to our current disaster G.W. Bush aka Shrub, *, Mr. Smirky Face, the chimp, etc etc. I think his legacy speaks for itself but I will expand for the purpose of my rant. A lying thieving murderer who along with a long list of political cronies should be hung for treason or at the very least marched thru the streets of Washington and stoned to death by the people of the USA and the world. Are you feeling my pride in America now? So how do I get that pride back? Your guess is going to be as good as mine. Hillary or Obama? Either would be a humongous improvement over the monster that is squatting in our White House. If either of these to win the presidency, and I really believe on of them will, then the best we can do is hope that their words and promises don’t ring hollow. For now I think I will be letting pride in America take a backseat to hope for America.

[TwilightGardener]

1. Please stop perpetuating this RW smear. Michelle is indeed proud of America--

and has been. She said so--she clarified her remarks. She was speaking in a purely political context, which is conveniently left out of the soundbites.

[Saturday]

2. She is obviously not ready for prime time if she had such a slip in words.

[MariaS]

3. Hello Can you read

I perpetrated nothing. Take the time to read and try to absorb what I wrote instead of acting like a zealot with a cause. I am supporting Obama and tried to make a point in Michelle's behalf.

[TwilightGardener]

8. You're implying that she's not proud of America, because there's a lot

to be ashamed of. That's taking her out of context, just the same as the RW is taking her words out of context. She has said that she's absolutely proud of America, that you can't help your spouse run for President WITHOUT pride in your country--those are her words. She was only talking about people getting involved in politics at the grassroots level and turning out to vote, when she was talking about her newfound pride. You aren't doing her any favors by twisting her meaning into something else.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

4. There Have Been Plenty Of Moments To Be Proud Of This Country In Your Adult Lifetime.

But that's quite irrelevant, since that isn't what Michelle meant anyway. Anyone who hasn't had any moments in their adult life in which they could say they were proud of us are just simply blind and narrow. But if you're going to put that tone out there, don't do it in relation to Michelle. You are connecting her to a concept that is your own, not hers. Likely, she'd heartily disagree with your words and tone, as she should.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. Did you see this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4726745

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. Yeah. You Were Wrong. She Didn't Say Really. Not Sure How You Haven't Gotten That Yet.

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. You didn't watch that video, did you?

Get off your high horse and watch the video. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/michelle-obama.html

“For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country,” she told a Milwaukee crowd today, “and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.”
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/02/pride_in_the_na.html

Here is the version you must have seen. It is very obvious they cut out the word "REALLY". The cut is audible and you can read her lips - she says "really".
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/49244.html

Now you can choose to be an ass about this if you want. I have linked BOTH videos here and it is beyond apparent that one word was clipped out of the second one I posted. The discussion here needs to be not whether she actually said "really" or not, but why her words are being twisted and who wants to smear her.

I can certainly understand disapproving of what she said. But at least quote her correctly.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. I Know There Is A Video Where The 'Really' Is Clipped. There Is One In Which She Doesn't Say It

at all.

To put forth an argument that she's being smeared by changing something she said later, into something she said hours earlier, is just really really dumb.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. Then why did they clip out that word?

I think it puts a whole different twist on her quote. Watch both of those videos, one after the other. The difference is pretty remarkable.

Looks like the right finally started reading Lakhoff. :)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. I'm Still Perplexed As To Why They Didn't Use The Earlier One.

Makes no sense to me, really. Why edit when you have an unadulterated version where she doesn't say the word really? Maybe they liked the production value of the second one better, but with the quote of the first? I dunno. Makes little sense to me really.

[MariaS]

15. I am proud of some Americans

just not America. Any good that we as Americans try to accomplish is overriden by the wrong that we allow our government to perpetrate on others here and around the world. Personally I feel no pride when I see the mangled and twisted bodies of children in Iraq I am not proud of the anger and hatred that is aimed at the Mexican who are unable to live a decent life in their own country because of what American policies have done. Or the thousands who sit in jail here because they dared to smoke a little weed while our government we won't even put impeachment on the table for a war criminal like Bush. You be proud that is your choice I choose to hold America accountable until it lives up to the ideals it is suppose to represent.

[TwilightGardener]

16. Don't project that onto Michelle. That's your own puppy. That's not what

Michelle was saying, or meant to say.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. Like I Said: That Drivel Is Your Own. Just Don't Attach It To Michelle.

She'd probably be as ashamed at your words as I am.

[MariaS]

27. Amazing that you feel you can

assume how MO would feel about me. I wonder if she really would take offense at my anger or would she take take offense at your indignation at me expressing it. Oh and by the way I never anywhere in my original posting attributed anything whatsoever to Mrs O. My article was just my way of showing outrage at a wing nut who has a problem with someone's wording of an statement. Oh and please save your shame this country and the seven years it has taken this country to finally come together and realize what a mess we are in. No pride there.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. If I was an African American female, I wouldn't be very proud of America either

It's not that hard to understand why she said what she said.

[MethuenProgressive]

5. She said something astonishingly ignorant - but most likely very true to her.

And she gets a DU pass, as usual.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

9. Well I'm sure you'd like the reaction she's getting on Free Republic much better.

I'm sure they are demonstrating the appropriate level of outrage. Yes, it would be much more to your liking.

[Bzzzz]

6. Michelle O'Bama is Full of Herself...n/t

[julialnyc]

7. If this is Obama's biggest problem

Than that's pretty good.

This is all they got?

[TwilightGardener]

10. They have very little on him, so they (and Hillary supporters) are now going after

his supporters and his wife. Sick and sad.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. It's the Clinton supporters that really disappoint me

They truly are willing to hand the GOP issues to smear the Dem candidate.

[TwilightGardener]

14. They want Obama taken out at the knees with ridiculous charges of

Michelle and Barack not being patriotic, or meeting with elderly "radicals" in the 90's, or plagiarism, or other stupid charges that have NOTHING to do with the substance of a DEMOCRATIC primary season--all under the guise of "vetting" him for the GOP. I am convinced that many on this forum are not going to vote for Obama in the fall if he is the nominee, and in fact are working against him--it's their girl now, or in 2012--better for McCain to win.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. The "flip flop" meme that was used against Kerry came from Gephart in the primary.

The GOP spent millions on the Swiftboaters and negative ads, but the meme that stuck was given to them for free by a Democrat. It's happening again. I've already heard McCain mention Obama's "present votes". Those present votes in the IL state lege were nearly always cast in support of progressive policies. There was no way the pukes were going to portray Barack as being "weak on choice" so this argument by Clinton supporters that it was just "toughening him up" is bogus.

[TwilightGardener]

25. Yep. You have it right.

[OzarkDem]

11. Get used to it

What? Do you think Obama will be immune to this stuff?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

20. better toughen up

[AX10]

28. Get used to it Obamababies.

It's going to get only tougher from here on out.
His unity crap is not going silence the right wing.