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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:11 PM
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Hillary may have shot herself in the foot again. Opening the conversation up about NAFTA and
garnishment of wages for those who don't pay for her mandated healthcare.

Not smart. This will backfire on her.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:12 PM
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1. Enforced Side Agreements of NAFTA and True Universal Health Care - The Time Has Come






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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:14 PM
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5. Unfortunately, Hillary does not promote, endorse or propose TRUE UHC. Get your facts straight, or
just continue mindlessly parroting empty talking points.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:17 PM
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8. Can You Feel The Love In Here?
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:19 PM by BeatleBoot
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:50 PM
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15. look guys he went on the internet and he got an email and here is proof
well go onto the same thread and here is proof that the email is a Clinton plant

This thread and email are perfect ammunition for Clinton. It is being used in a major way to create anger amongst democrats and is having a significant impact.

If you want to support Obama in the primary and the general but to vote "temporarily" in the primary to vote for someone else in the general is unethical and stands against what Obama stands for.

This email fits Clinton interests so well that I wonder if anyone can vouch for the poster or if he is in fact a Clinton poser who is trying to create a negatiive image of Obama




Now of course that was my email but the place your quoting is just like here just someone with a keyboard on the otherhand this seems more significant

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4722738
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:21 PM
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11. She is a supporter of NAFTA that her husband enacted without ensuring that
adequate protections were in place. Again, a lack of forward critical thinking. She wants to embrace the Clinton record on one hand and then run away from or nuance it on the other hand.

she also wants to mandate health insurance and has stated that she would consider garnishing the wages of those who don't pay their share of the cost.

This is not a winning position for her. Obama kept the gloves on the other night. After her tirade, I doubt that will continue.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:26 PM
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16. you have faith in Hillary's Blue Ribbon NAFTA Commission?
also, there is a large difference between Healthcare and Health Insurance.

Ask anyone who has had coverage denied.

Ask any Insurance company if it will sacrifice profits to provide Healthcare to the masses.

Your wages will be garnished to pay some Insurance CEOs 300 million dollar bonus.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:13 PM
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2. Everything backfires. CNN just stated she was "desperate and hitting below the belt". What part of
"we don't like this attack/negative" bullshit DIDNT Hillary understand. Desperation is so unbecoming on her and the voters will turn out in droves to shout her shrill venom down. Somebody needs to put an end to this and end her campaign now. I cannot believe ANY of her supporters on this board would DARE suggest she be a VP to Obama. She is poison.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:14 PM
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3. I've asked here if she would repeal NAFTA and get this response
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:46 PM
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14. That's more response than I thought you'd get! n/t
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:14 PM
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4. I think you're right. The average voter won't look too deep into this, but will see her hypocrisy
and be turned off by it
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:15 PM
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6. CNN reports she saying Obama's campaign is using Rove tactics. n/t
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 02:15 PM by sparosnare
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:18 PM
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9. A charge has to at least be believable to be effective and....
...99% of the public would consider Clinton's campaign to be more "Rovian" than Obama's.


This charge will ring false for the overwhelming majority of voters. Remember... the meme being pushed by the Clinton campaign is that Obama is too "inexperienced" at the game and "not tough enough" to take on the GOP.


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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:16 PM
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7. Yep... Russert will bring NAFTA into the debate early now... and...
...it is a losing topic for Hillary... especially in Ohio.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:19 PM
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10. Yep, I think the Obama campaign was baiting her into talking about this
This will give reporters the green light to examine what her position was on NAFTA and when they do they'll find numerous statements where she did publicly support NAFTA
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:22 PM
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12. No, it's a great strategy. I hear Texans just LOVE government mandates
:rofl:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:26 PM
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13. She is not smart at all.
She is being emotional and not very credible.

After her Xerox comment how can anyone believe "Democrats do not attack democrats"?

And she may just have been played like a fiddle, since this will be the subject of the next debate.
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