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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:47 PM
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To the so called "Clinton-Cultists", WHY?
I'm seriously curious about this. What makes you continue with your support?

When she speaks, it's like she's reading or programmed. She seems plastic to me. Her arrogance is beyond Bush levels sometimes.

With the hypocrisy, and bad management of her campaign and her money, her possibly corrupt past, and everything else(and there is a lot), what is it that keeps all of you supporting her?

Is it just blind support of your original choice because you don't want to "Flip Flop"? Is it that you don't want to admit you were wrong?

I'm serious here. This is rapidly approaching Fanboyism. What keeps you supporting her? I just need to know, cause to me, I cant figure out what kind of person would still be behind her, cept maybe a scorned female who's overly optimistic about a female candidate.

Please respond civilly with honest reasons.

Thank you.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:49 PM
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1. LOL...insult a whole group of people then ask for a civil response.
:freak:
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:49 PM
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2. Who did I insult? Hillary? I just gave my point of view, if you can't handle that, that's on you.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:15 PM
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20. LOL...you must have not have read your own words.
And trust me, I can handle anything you have to offer this world.

This is rapidly approaching Fanboyism.

And Obama supporters are cultists. How are these two expressions different? I'll take, "They aren't" for a $200 Alex.

I cant figure out what kind of person would still be behind her, cept maybe a scorned female who's overly optimistic about a female candidate.

LOL...no, that's not an insult to anyone. :eyes:
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:27 PM
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32. So what you're saying is, you don't know?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:40 PM
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44. No, what I'm saying is you acted like an ass and then expected civility, and I thought it was funny.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 03:40 PM by Forkboy
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:41 PM
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46. So what you're saying is, you don't know?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:43 PM
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49. I'm not a Hillary supporter. So no, I don't know why people support her.
Now, do you know why you're acting like an ass?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:49 PM
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3. I Respect Your Candor
"What keeps you supporting her? I just need to know, cause to me, I cant figure out what kind of person would still be behind her, cept maybe a scorned female who's overly optimistic about a female candidate."

-KhaOZ

I wish all Obama's supporters would be as candid as you..


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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:51 PM
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6. I only meant, that's the kind of person I could see supporting her. It wasn't meant as an insult.
I'm half Samoan, and if there was a Samoan candidate, I could see many of Samoans, maybe even myself, supporting that candidate to the end. That's all I meant by it.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:50 PM
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4. Yeah, your OP really encourages someone to respond "civilly"
Right. Calling my candidate programmed, plastic, arrogant, possibly corrupt encourages civil, honest reasons. Calling me a blind supporter and a"scorned female" really makes me want to respond with "honest reasons." :sarcasm:
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:52 PM
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9. Some of that is fact, and the rest is how I, and many, persieve her.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:04 PM
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18. No, dear, it's all how you "persieve" her
Why don't you listen to yourself? Read your post, if you can, from the point of view of the recipient. Yes, I realize imagining a point of view other than your own may be difficult if not impossible for you, but do try. And see what an asshole sounds like.

BTW, it's "perceive." DU's spell checker can be your friend.
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #18
34. So you knock spelling instead of answering the question? Smooth.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:51 PM
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5. The same arguments can be made for the "Obama-Cultists" with the exception
that Obama is ahead right now.

I voted for Edwards in the primary, and I am committed to vote for whomever is the nominee for the Democratic Party. That being said, I have seen a lot of hostility and bile coming from both the Clinton and Obama camps, and it is quite frankly immature and unbecoming. We as Democrats and Liberals/Progressives are better than this.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:52 PM
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7. First you attack and then ask us to repsond with "civility".
:eyes:

I will feel no loss should McCain beat Obama in the fall.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:52 PM
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8. Have some kool-ade!
:9 :beer: :9

Obama Juice...
better than Jesus Juice :crazy:

:rofl:
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:56 PM
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10. Why are you so quick to ignore the question, and label me as an Obama supporter?
Now, being Military, you'd assume I was a McCain supporter, but I'm not. If Hillary had shown she could be a candidate for the people, someone who didn't seem programmed, I may have supported her.

But in a time where Elected Officials almost never do what they Say they will do while they're running for office, the c-factor comes in to play. CARE. Who seems to honestly care for this country, and care about it's people? Who seems like they'll actually give their best effort to do what they say. I don't vote based on what's on paper anymore, because that hasn't worked well lately. And I don't vote based on who has corporate experience, or Washington experience, cause our current administration has killed that argument for me.
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. So none of you can answer the question?
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Compare side by side Hillary's actual accomplishments versus Obama's actual accomplishments
Simply based upon that, Hillary wins hands down.

And that is the civil answer.

For the uncivil answer, bite my big white scorned woman ass.
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #15
35. Which? The Corruption and accomplishments for the Lobyists?
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. Didn't ignore it, it wasn't worth answering the way it was framed.
It deserved as serious and as unbiased a response
as was the manner in which it was presented.
Hillary-cultists?? Recall that?
As far as you being Military, I have not one
clue whether you are what you say you are, or
not. That said, I assume nothing about you other
than if you post in the fire-pit of GDP, you either
support Hillary or Obama, being as they are the 2
running for the Democratic Party. This is Democratic
Underground you know, a McCain supporter wouldn't be
here long.
I do not have to explain my support to you just to have
a pile on of Obama supporters attacking my reasons.
Just vote your conscience and vote Democratic.
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #19
25. If that's what you have to tell yourself to avoid answering the question, so be it.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
26. "Corporate Experience."
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #26
33. Sorry, that's not me. Not sure who that person is. But this is a funny way of avoiding answering.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:01 PM
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Jesus Juice
ROTFLMFAO
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. Jesus Juice
ROTFLMFAO
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:58 PM
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12. bug off
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. So that's why you support her? Interesting.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:59 PM
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14. I think it's a woman thing
and some things about women, men will never understand I guess-we'll keep trying to though
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. I don't want to be sexist, but perhaps it is. My wife thinks is might be as well.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. So Hillary only has female supporters now? Do you fools even think before you type?!? As for your
question, it's not worth answering. We don't owe you an explanation for one thing. Secondly, as someone pointed out, the way it's framed is a turn-off. Were you really expecting civil responses given the tone of your post?!?
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. Because you can't answer it, right?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
30. I'm A Six Foot Two , Two Hundred Twenty Five Pound Male..
Worked as a bouncer to pay my way through college...Work out four times a week...And think Hillary is the greatest thing since sex...

Don't put people in tiny little boxes...They don't fit...
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #30
36. I'm a 6'6", 250lb half Samoan originally from Las Vegas, who was also a Bouncer once upon a time
But your point is taken, even if it was a strange way to get to it.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:35 PM
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40. You're About The Same Size As My Buddy Was But He Was Six Inches Shorter
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 03:35 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
If there was trouble he was handling it...I wasn't going to risk getting my nose broke for what was then five bucks an hour and all the women you could impress...
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. It was a night job. Military doesn't pay amazingly well :\ Plus
I was able to do my college homework on the many slow nights while sitting at a door. Getting paid while doing homework was a win win for me.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:18 PM
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22. "So-Called 'Clinton Cultists'" Sounds Like One More From the "I Know You Are But What Am I?" Brigade
Sheesh. Isn't there an original thought among you?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:18 PM
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23. Gosh. You sound oddly familiar.
Almost like a banned DUer who was banned the same day you joined.

Odd.
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Not sure who that'd be, but ok, whatever. If this is how you guys go about avoiding giving answers.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:23 PM
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28. Sure you know.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. Tell me again why anyone should answer you
After you insulted all Hillary supporters? Don't tell me that you didn't mean to insult; if you really DON'T see your OP as an insult, you're dumb as dirt.
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:26 PM
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31. this is hilarious. You people honestly have no idea why you support her.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #31
45. I Support Her
I support her because I like her health care plan, her plan to stop foreclosues, and her plans to stimulate the economy...

But Barack and her differ little on the issues... It's a difference in presentation... Some people like the flash and pageantry of the Patriots and some folks like the blue collar grittiness of the Giants... Hillary to me represents the latter...
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:44 PM
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51. Great answer - Sorry about...
I respect your responses in this thread. I may have trolled a bit here... ok, maybe more than a bit. But I respect your response. I just was irritated by a few threads on this forum today, blindly bashing Obama, so I had an honest question in this thread, but worded it more trollish cause of my irritation.

Sorry to lump all of you into one basket with the few who were being the irritants.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:56 PM
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57. It's OK ... I Can Be An Asshole...Just Not In This Thread...
And I do like her matter of fact presentation...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:43 PM
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50. Sure does.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:32 PM
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37. Oh, you're REALLY funny. Even though I'm widely recognized as one of the most obnoxious people
here at DU, at least I'm not so arrogant as to type a post that tells a large group of people that I think they're stupid, and then ask for "civil and honest replies."

Redstone
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:33 PM
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38. Good for you
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #37
47. The OP doesn't get that simple point.
:crazy:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:45 PM
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52. No, the OP DOES get the point. He's just being intentionally obtuse, and annoying.
And we're letting him get away with it, aren't we? (Including me.)

Redstone
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #52
53. Hey, I'm bored. It's Saturday and I don't get into college B-Ball.
I need a chew toy. :evilgrin:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:53 PM
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56. I like that analogy. Lotsa stuff here to get your teeth into, isn't there? Then you can whap it all
around for a while, and when it gets too raggy to hold your atention anymore, no problem; you don't have to look far to find another one.

Redstone
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:34 PM
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39. This is so tiring. Read the dozens, hundreds? of threads here.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 03:34 PM by LadyVT
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:35 PM
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41. "Please respond civilly with honest reasons." LOL. By the way, whose sockpuppet are you?
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:38 PM
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43. Not sure what this means?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #43
54. Sure you don't.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:43 PM
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48. A sockpuppet? Nah, couldn't be. (Check with Maddy; it seems she knows who it is.)
Redstone
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KhaOZ Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:49 PM
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55. Who I am? How could anyone here know who I am? You guys hackers or something?
I came here weeks back because of this post that was linked to me in a political chatroom, and I found it moving:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4573084

Do you guys mean, you know me from that chatroom? If so, that's cool. Yes, I am KhaOZ from #Politics on efnet.

Anyway, read my post here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4727867&mesg_id=4728879

I let my irritation get the better of me I guess.

See you guys in chat if that is where you know me from.
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