OMG! On CNN..just saw Hillary...she's unhinged!

[NDambi]

She talking Obama attacking other Democrats!

Lmaooooooooooooooo...


:wtf:


She's lost it..and she's desperate..

It's hard to watch her unravel..like this..

[rzemanfl]

1. Who the hell was the bobble head behind her? I agree, Mommy

is pissed. This is not going to help her at all.

On edit, see posts below, the Governor may have a medical condition, rather than exhibiting excessive agreement. It was very disconcerting to watch.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

4. Someone just said it was Gov. Ted Strickland.

Not a smart move on his part.

[theHandpuppet]

12. Strickland's a good guy and popular Governor

I really don't think HRC is going to have any effect on that.

[liberalnurse]

17. I was at the Dayton Rally.

Magnificent event! Jen is just off her game this time. I still love ya Jen.

[rzemanfl]

18. Is there something wrong with his neck? n/t

[theHandpuppet]

39. There's nothing wrong with his heart...

... and that's all that matters to me.

[TexasObserver]

47. He appears to have Parkinson's or some kind of palsy, but don't know that.

[rzemanfl]

73. Doesn't Bill Frist diagnose people from videos? Where is he? nt

[LisaL]

22. He just recently got elected by a huge margin.

I guess everybody has to adore Obama, or there is something wrong with them?
:eyes:

[Cha]

28. Your red herring is full

a shit.

[LisaL]

32. I have no freaking idea as to WTF you are talking about.

By the way, his "bobble" head might have had nothing to do with his support of what Hillary was saying.
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/02/strickland_spokesman_denies_go.html

[rzemanfl]

38. If that is a sign of illness and having read your link, I think it is,

then I retract my remark. It appeared to me he was nodding in agreement at inappropriate moments.

[LisaL]

42. His spokesman is saying Strickland is not sick.

Which I hope is true.

[rzemanfl]

68. I'd have more confidence if that came from a Doctor, not a

spokesperson.

[Johnny__Motown]

5. I think he was shocked and didn't know wtf to do

[LisaL]

35. He supports Hillary and some even say he might be a VP

candidate if she were to get the nomination.

[Bucky]

2. "Unravel" - (v) to formulate one's strongest argument and present it forcefully...

... in a manner that NDambi does not approve of.

[NDambi]

6. Bucky Boo...she's acting like a loon..come on now

[Bucky]

34. No, loons say things like "the surge is working" and "cutting taxes raises revenues"

Clinton doesn't have a lot of good arguments left. She's making a vigorous case, as she's supposed to do. It may be ineffectual, but it's hardly going to hurt Obama. Do you think Mohammed Ali's supporters got this snarky and petty against his sparring partners before a big fight? No, they kept they eyes on the ball.

Please ignore the mixed metaphor.

[Schema Thing]

9. cool. Now define "whistling past the graveyard"

:D

[Johnny__Motown]

3. Death Throws of an era

Bye Bye Clintons

[workinclasszero]

36. Yeah

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out DLC'ers.:evilgrin:

[Justpat]

124. It is death throes, not throws.

[BeyondGeography]

7. But, you know, she's going to be fine

It's America she's worried about.

[ecstatic]

10. LOL! nt

[XemaSab]

11. I'm not so sure she's going to be fine.

I'm frankly wondering when she's going to announce her search for the real killers. :crazy:

[BeyondGeography]

16. Her next gambit is to say, "This is how the terrorists win, Democrats"

while brandishing a photograph of Obama.

[XemaSab]

63. Or tear up his photo while saying "Fight the real enemy"

a la Sinead O Conner.

[lligrd]

25. I Agree - I'm Not So Sure She Can Handle Losing nt

[mopinko]

19. it's our campaign anyway.

"this is your campaign!" we do not need another out of touch president.
i have really been hoping that she would find a way to bow out with class, but.....
i mean, i wouldn't. i just hope she finds a way.

[Cha]

31. hilary talks outta both sides of her mouth

'cause she's got nothing and when you don't have anything to offer and you have her lust for power..you need to lie your fucking head off.

[ProSense]

8. I hope they plan to give Obama equal time! n/t

[K Gardner]

15. CNN LIVE OBAMA PRESSER, this HOUR. Just announced.

[ProSense]

23. Thanks!

[IDemo]

13. She may be seeking the sympathy vote

because of her apparent Tourette's syndrome

[polichick]

14. It's painful to watch someone so smart act out of such denial. nt

[jenmito]

20. It looks like she chose the "voice" she's going to present at Tuesday's debate, and it's not

going to do her any good. Her advisors apparently chose to have her go down in flames rather than be nice, sympathetic, and "presidential." So sad. :)

[Major Hogwash]

27. Will Hill go shrill?

Or just cry?

It's so ridiculous to say "I'm so proud to share the stage" one day and then 2 days later say this type of crap.

[jenmito]

33. Yes she will!

:D (I was worried she was going to fit in a cry in the next debate, but now I don't see it happening.) And hopefully Tim Russert won't give her a "sympathy" question like they did on CNN.

[Tom Rinaldo]

21. Why does your reaction remind me of New Hampshire? n/t

[Tess99]

24. I haven't seen it. Is she really unhinged?

Because if so, that's not good. Anger helped her in that New Hampshire debate because she was perceived as being picked on byt the two people sitting next to her. But if she is just standing there in front of a microphone yelling, that is not good.

[jenmito]

41. Yes! On CNN the banner read, "Hillary Goes Off"! n/t

[Pamela Troy]

53. Well Heavens-to-Betsy!

If *CNN* says it it MUST be true!

[jenmito]

78. They had it underneath video of her going off. CNN just labeled what was happening.

And they were right. Did you see her?

[Pamela Troy]

81. No, I haven't seen it

which is why I'm reserving judgment. After hearing about how Hillary had supposedly broken down before the cameras (when she'd done nothing of the kind) and how Hillary "lost it" during a debate (when she'd merely become about as heated as Edwards and Obama) I tend to be skeptical. In fact, over the years I've learned that threads here introduced with the words "OMG!" tend to be a tad hyperbolic. And yes, I'm especially suspicious about hearing women candidates described as "losing it" or "having a breakdown," etc., etc. All too often it turns out to a relatively mild display of emotion that would have aroused no comment at all coming from a male candidate.

[jenmito]

94. Then just wait for the video. It's a very accurate description. She was very angry looking/

sounding, holding up the flyers, saying, "Shame on you, Barack Obama!" Then she said she'll see him in Ohio to debate this. It has nothing to do with her gender.

[Pamela Troy]

97. I just saw the video and no, the descriptions I'm seeing here aren't accurate.

Yes, she's angry.

She's not unhinged.
She's not shrieking.
She's not irrational.
She's not unravelling.

She's angry, but in control and quite articulate.

Can we please dispense with the "crazy lady" rhetoric?

(An Obama supporter really getting sick of this crap...)

[jenmito]

100. I called her angry. CNN said she was "going off" which means she's getting angry and showing it.

The header didn't say any of the other things you said.

[Pamela Troy]

111. Oh come now let's be honest here. You said it in the context of responding

"Yes!" to the question, "Is she really unhinged?"

Plainly she isn't unhinged at all. Nor is she any of the numerous synonyms for "unhinged" that have been offered in this thread.

(An Obama supporter really getting sick of this crap...)

[jenmito]

113. That's true. But I think she's angry and coming off as very angry. n/t

[Pamela Troy]

117. So what? Does that justify questioning her sanity?

Implying that she's irrational? Do you really not see how badly this kind of hyperbole reflects on the people using it?

[Jane Austin]

102. Me too.

Angry but not unhinged.

Still, sad to see.

[Pamela Troy]

104. Why sad?

[Jane Austin]

119. I don't like seeing someone as brilliant and talented as HRC

brougt to this level.

[Pamela Troy]

121. What level is that?

Is being angry somehow degrading?

[Jane Austin]

132. The way she's doing it it is.

I was a Hillary fan for years. I don't like what she's become.

[Pamela Troy]

138. What is it about the way she's doing it

that you find so degrading? As I observed, she's not shrieking. She's not irrational. She's quite articulate and dignified, albeit angry. What would you consider an acceptable approach?

[Jane Austin]

155. Who said anything about degrading?

Or any of the other pejorative descriptors you used.

Please go argue with somebody else - or are you trying to boost your numbers?

[Pamela Troy]

159. You responded to my question if being angry was somehow "degrading" with:

"The way she's doing it is," "IS" presumably referring to the word "degrading." (If not, what WERE you driving at?)

Why are you now trying to rewrite the history of this thread?

[Jane Austin]

160. Please go away.

This is getting boring.

[Pamela Troy]

161. I gather you'd really rather not explain your earlier response.

No. I won't go away. This conversation interests me. If you'd rather not take part in it, nobody is forcing you to answer me.

[Jane Austin]

163. You're the first person I've ever put on ignore.

Bye.

[Pamela Troy]

166. LOL! Run along!

[paulk]

118. but that's how it's done

you trash your opponent in a personal way rather than responding to the substance of the charge.

it's the way the Obama surrogates have operated from day one.

[Pamela Troy]

139. I wouldn't call these "Obama surrogates"

so much as the "Hate-Hillary" crowd. They're not so much for Obama as against Hillary Clinton.

[paulk]

144. there's truth in that.

I've never understood it -

[Nedsdag]

26. "HILLARY GOES NUCLEAR!"

We all knew this was coming. She's throwing the Hail Mary pass.

But she's no Doug Flutie and she doesn't have a Gerard Phelan to catch it.

[Tom Rinaldo]

76. Bring on New Hampshire. It started with the media saying Hillary lost it

in the NH debate. I remember the comparisons being made at the time; "Hillary's Dean Scream!". But the people saw it differently. Please - keep pushing this, take it national, please.

[juajen]

110. I so totally agree.

Go Hillary Go!

[karynnj]

29. Wow - I didn't see it but it sounds like GHWB in 1992

who in the last week of the campaign really could not believe that someone he saw so below him as Clinton was beating him. It was at this point that he called them "Bozo and Oxoneman". The Clinton camaign then hardly responded - they didn't have to.

As to Democrats not attacking other, the Clintons attacked Tsongus, Kerrey and Brown - in fair and unfair ways way back in 1992. Not to mention, that in 2006, HRC stabbed John Kerry in the back. It would have been fair had she attacked him saying he was gaffe prone (although he really isn't if you consider the number of gaffes between 2003 to 2008), but she said "his comments" were "inappropriate". Skipping a word of prepared text is NOT inappropriate - she was validating the RW smear that a man, who has fought for veterans and genuinely cares for them, dissed the military. It was as if he wrote that some people "loathe" the military .... but that was Bill.

[ginnyinWI]

46. her terminology is a big mistake

To say, "He should be ashamed of himself!" plays into her image of the mean schoolmarm. What a mistake. This meltdown is going to do her no good at all.

[workinclasszero]

30. Hillary must have finally read the writing on the wall

Maybe TPTB told her they wouldn't sit back and watch her steal the election via FL and MI.

She had her chance to bow out gracefully and didn't take it. Now we get to watch her throw wild accusations and make a fool of herself.

Oh well, her choice. If thats the way she wants history to remember her, whatever.:shrug:

[rosetta627]

151. And Obama, in his response, looked... you know presidential

While she looked like a harpy.

[ginnyinWI]

37. Temper, temper!

Do we really want a president who can't keep his or her cool? Do we want one that goes off like that? We know McCain has a temper. We've heard plenty about Bush being very hot-headed and vindictive.

Do we really want a Democrat who does the same thing? I don't.

[dicknbush]

40. Oh its another hateful Obamanable thread what a surprise.

Obamanable is just another corporatist . The banks already have him in their pocket. And you fools who suport him are going to continue to pay for his deceit. You will see. Actually if he pulls off this fraud and is elected to the Presidency I suspect about 18 months in Hillary is going to be relieved she didn't win because things are going to be such a mess and you can count on Obamanable to make it worse not better ,well worse for the real working folks and then Michele will have something else to hate America for ....Putting her husband in a job he wasn't qualified for!

[yourguide]

49. SO annoyed by this BS

Please look at the BREAKDOWN of contributions - Individual contributions are just that, now look at the corporate and PAC contributions and you will see who the banks have in their pocket.

[dicknbush]

75. You shall see....Oh and by the way your pictures of the Obamanable remind of ...

Stickers I have seen around for years...the picture looks very much like the style of Obamanable and under the picture its

OBEY

So offffff you go to OZ


Obamanable is a corporatist shill lawyer

[TexasObserver]

43. Wow! She won't get the headline she expected. "HILLARY LOSES IT!!" will be it.

[Major Hogwash]

44. Meltdown in Ohio #32 - It's on teevee!

Deny that you Clintonians! Deny reality of seeing Hillary shriek!

Open a fun house somewhere and stick her in as the main attraction - the shrieking woman!

[dave123williams]

45. Desperate roundhouse punching in the tenth round, I think.

[LadyVT]

48. Here we go. The "Woman as Crazy Shrew" bashing

[scheming daemons]

50. She created this mess for herself today......

....

[dicknbush]

65. What Mess....??? The only mess I see is this thread that is full of Shit and haters

Where were all you goofballs when Kerry could have stopped the war criminal Bush. How many of you hatefull misogynists and self haters when you could have made a difference and saved lives by voting out Bush the war criminal...You are all a sad bunch.

[jenmito]

51. You're the only one who said that.

[theHandpuppet]

54. Didn't take long, did it

We could create an entire lexicon from this thread alone.

[yourguide]

52. Anyone have an online video link to this tantrum? n/t

[Pamela Troy]

56. I'd sure like to see it.

After hearing all that crap about how she'd "broken down" a few weeks back (and watching the actual footage of her simply becoming slightly choked up) or about how she'd gotten "incoherent with rage" during a debate (and watching footage of her simply becoming slightly heated) I'm afraid I'll have to see it for myself before passing judgement.

[Major Hogwash]

57. It'll be on Youtube in 20 minutes or so.

It was unreal! "I'm so proud to share the stage with Obama" and 2 days later "He's the anti-christ, he eats little children, he hates cats."

[yourguide]

61. I just scoured youtube for it...

and cant find it.

[workinclasszero]

77. Yup Hillary is such an honest person

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

[jefferson_dem]

80. Here ---

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/23/clinton.mailings/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

[Pamela Troy]

140. And as I thought,

She's not "unhinged," "Hysterical," "over the edge," etc. She's angry, but quite articulate and plainly in control.

What is wrong with you people?

(An Obama supporter really getting sick of this crap.)

[Bluebear]

55. "Lmaooooooooooooooo..." ---what elevated conversation you present.

[Major Hogwash]

60. She was just on teevee shrilling - deny it!

Or just lie about it.

[Bluebear]

62. Who is "lieing" about anything? I'm chuckling at the infantile "lmaoooooooooo"

[NDambi]

96. Okay...sorry I had a hilarious moment... I sawry...ha ha

[loveangelc]

58. Hahahahahahahahaha. All Obama has to do is prepare for this debate. It will be easy.

I dedicate this American Idol performance to Hillary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbuIDpE24TY

[janetblond]

59. Is she having a breakdown?

Sometimes I wonder ....
This woman needs to gain control of ANGER.
Geesh! She's got enough money to buy and island in Fiji and RETIRE!

[Unbowed]

71. She sounded like McCain.

Or her husband. It was surreal.

[Unbowed]

64. So much for going out classy.

If I hadn't decided previously to support Obama, I'd have decided today. How could look at that clip and tell me this is someone you want to lead our country. Presidential candidate has a temper tantrum. This was something I'd expect from McCain and he's unhinged.

[Mike03]

66. Is it really that humorous?

I prefer Obama, but I take no delight in seeing Clinton exhausted, sleep-deprived or desperate.

She's a Democrat, remember?

[NDambi]

72. Then she should be resting and not acting like a raving lunatic on Nat'l TV

Yes, she's a Democrat, but maybe you need to remind her..because it seems she's attacking another Democrat..

[Mike03]

74. Then people like you would call her "lazy" or apathetic about

her own campaign.

She can do no right--isn't that the fact of the matter?

[dicknbush]

83. Yes that is the matter....But of course if she turns into an Obamanable then of course

All will be right with the world and she will be a genius.

Watch the move "THE BODY SNATCHERS" that is what we are witnessing here today. Obamanables who have lost their minds to the grand plan of the oneness of Hopiness and the hoplessness of not having hopefulness in the hopfullness of timlessness of all that is Hopeful!

[NDambi]

92. I don't hate Hillary..and if she was resting...I'd say..good for her, especially if she's tired as

you say...

but she's attacking Obama, another Democrat, yet complaining about attacks from Obama...so please..excuse me if I don't feel all warm and fuzzy inside

[Jane Austin]

101. Mike03 speaks for me.

This is sad.

[Mike03]

112. Hey, thanks, I appreciate your post. NT

[NJmaverick]

67. Throw all the crap, you can, against the wall

desperately hope something sticks. It may be a morally repugnent tactic, but it's all she has left.

[ginnyinWI]

69. "Losing gracefully is not in the Clinton DNA"

--Dick Polman, Philadelphia Inquirer--today's column.

[grantcart]

70. my wife said if I kept the TV on that shrieking woman one more minute she would

divorce me. It was a tough decision but I came in here- how did it end?

[Pamela Troy]

86. Too bad your wife

is using misogynistic language like "shrieking" to describe someone who's plainly angry but in control.

Whether you agree with Hillary or not, she is not "shrieking."

[jefferson_dem]

79. Video here -

She's literally falling apart right before our eyes.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/23/clinton.mailings/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

[sellitman]

82. Sad.

Desperate time call for desperate measures.

This can't end soon enough for me.

Guess we can totally forget a Obama-Clinton ticket now.

[Pamela Troy]

85. THAT'S "falling apart?!!!!"

"Unhinged?" "Unravelling?"

Oh, give me a break.

She's angry but she's plainly in control and articulate. As I expected it's yet another "hysterical shrew" screed from the "I-hate-Hillary" crowd.

And by the way...

I'm an Obama supporter.

(And thinking of adding the above statement to just about every post I make objecting to the wild hyperbole I'm seeing on this board about Hillary Clinton. )

[beltanefauve]

133. Obama supporter here

as well. But I'm also bearing in mind something I heard on Rachel Maddow:

As seen by our society and our media:
-an angry white man is assertive
-an angry white woman is shrill
-an angry black woman is crazy
-and an angry black man is scary

Haven't seen CNN yet (I'm sure they'll play this at least as much as "The Dean Scream") but for now, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

[Laurab]

146. You know, I agree - she wasn't "falling apart" or "unhinged"

But she was very, very angry, and doing the same thing to Obama that she was angry about him supposedly doing. She's far too angry about what she's talking about, especially given some of the tactics her campaign has employed. And, she comes off as lecturing, not only Obama, but anyone who supports him.

Angry and somewhat arrogant, I would say - they ARE having a "real" campaign. She's not winning. The anger is misplaced, and she appears desperate to me. I can't imagine Obama losing his cool like that over his opponent's campaign, and he's had many reasons to.

[Pamela Troy]

150. Precisely in what manner is she

"doing the same thing to Obama that she was angry about him supposedly doing?

[Laurab]

168. She is insulting him and his campaign.

And, his supporters, I would say. She was the one who went negative several times, she is angry about a flier of his, when she has a flier that is much worse, if you're talking about negative politics, which she is. I don't think Obama needs any lectures about his campaign, particularly from someone who has not exactly run a positive campaign against him.

This has you quite riled up, I noticed, and you keep saying "I'm an Obama supporter". I don't believe that for a minute. I watched the video with an open mind, and it was clearly over-the-top anger. I would guess that Clinton is tired, stressed, and frustrated, and all of that showed, along with the misdirected anger. She really should save that for Mark Penn.

[bagimin]

167. Precisely

[Glimmer of Hope]

90. This is really disappointing. Her closing remarks at last Thursday's debate now seem like

a bunch of B.S. now.

[Khaotic]

93. Bring It!

I suppose she just realized she's running a campaign huh?!

I guess she was really holding back in the last debate?

Shiver!

Bring it Hillary!

If you think you can stand toe to toe and you've just been holding back ... BRING IT!!!!!!!


Enough with the speeches and big rallies huh?! WTF?!!!

She only wishes she could inspire, she only wishes she drew as many people at her rallies.

Somehow those qualities are negative now? Somehow those qualities are supposed to be something a candidate should be ashamed of???

Fine ... see ya in Ohio Hill. The Nation will be tuning in to watch you melt down.

[high density]

103. Wow that is depressing

I thought she was crashing and burning before... That was nothing compared to this insanity.

[SOS]

130. Simply beyond belief

On Thursday she's "honored...honored" to share the stage with Obama.
On Saturday she does this?

Her plagiarized ending statement on Thursday is now revealed to be as authentic as a three dollar bill.
What an absolute phony.

[DemGa]

84. She's most certainly correct--

Barack Obama shamelessly used the right-wing attacks Hillary endured against her -- It will be funny as hell watching it COME BACK to him.

[Beacool]

88. Yep, can't wait to see what the Repugs have in store for him

if he makes it to the GE. I'll just buy a big stash of popcorn and enjoy the show.

These kinds of posts are just too funny. I often wonder if the majority of the Obama groupies are even old enough to vote, the posts that they insist on opening are soooo juvenile and overinflated.


:popcorn:

[Jane Austin]

105. Are you a Democrat?

You sound like you'd like to see the Democratic candidate fail.

[Beacool]

115. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but not a Kool-Aid drinker.

Just look at the responses below and the pics that someone posted. Yeah, Obama the uniter.......

[Jane Austin]

120. So you're choosing to vote in reaction to someone else's

ill-stated opinion?

That's like being for wearing fur because you don't like PETA's tactics.

It's reactionary.

[Beacool]

147. Nope, it's just fodder for the grist.

I don't like the man and he has done nothing to change my opinion of him. Right now, not even Hillary's call for unity could make me drag myself to the voting booth in November if he's the nomine. I may feel differently in a few months, who knows?

[Jane Austin]

153. Grist for the mill?

Fodder for the canon?

:)

[Skip Intro]

123. Amen. Me too.

[Khaotic]

87. Who Hillary?!

[peaches2003]

91. She reminds every divorced man of his first wife

:banghead:

[Jane Austin]

108. Those pictures are awful.

Can't we do without those?

Thanks.

[Skip Intro]

127. Those pics next to your Obama avatar says it all. Hope and Change and Unity my Ass.

You show beautifully the emptiness of Obama's words.

[jmg257]

89. My, how the mighty have fallen - it IS almost sad...

[Arkana]

95. Not unhinged--it's faux outrage.

Outrage over a mailer that went out weeks ago--but that she's just APPARENTLY decided to get pissed about now.

[OhioBlue]

116. exactly my thoughts

She is completely transparent.

It is planned spontaneous false outrage.

She is the victim......

[Darth_Kitten]

131. you must not know how to read people.....

n/t

[Khaotic]

98. The hammer ...

IS ON IT'S WAY ...



The end of the Bush/Clinton/Bush years are almost over.



Let it end w/ *.

A new era approaches.

[workinclasszero]

107. Lord I can't WAIT for the day we are FREE from the Bush/Clinton

dynasties FOREVER!

GOBAMA!!!!:bounce::toast:

[high density]

99. Who is going to respond positively to this beyond her supporters?

So tired of this shit. And to think that we have to deal with this crap between now and March 4th, and possibly beyond.

[cottonseed]

106. Her thinking is cloudy.

Somewhere during her journey these last 2 days she'd forgotten that they'd just had a debate, 1 of 20 total now.

[Scurrilous]

109. K & R

:kick:

[rug]

114. There's nothing unhinged about that clip. She's firmly in control. And she's right.

This thread reminds me of the hooting apes in 2001.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5Pkw50ZcAFw

[Midlodemocrat]

122. rug, I'm suprised at you.

You know better than to interject a sensible comment into a poo flinging thread. It's Lent for God's sake, man.

[Obamaless_isbetter]

125. obama is a liar

NAFTA: Us, Hillary and the "Boon"

The Democratic campaign has moved in earnest to Ohio, where times are tough and NAFTA has become a dirty word. In an effort to score points, Barack Obama has been dropping a mail-piece (left) that repeats a charge he has made several other times during the campaign -- that "Hillary Clinton believed NAFTA was 'a boon' to the economy."

This attack has attracted a flurry of attention, from Clinton's campaign and some reporters. As it turns out, the primary source is us. Back in Sept. 2006, an abbreviated chart printed on Newsday's Spin Cycle page compared Hillary with her Democratic US Senate primary challenger Jonathan Tasini on a variety of issues. The issues chart included this:

"FREE TRADE
JONATHAN TASINI: Tasini favors scrapping the Bill Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it drives down domestic wages.
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: Clinton thinks NAFTA has been a boon to the economy, but voted against the Central American-Dominican Republic Free Trade Agreement, saying it would drive jobs offshore."

Because it's raised questions -- with Clinton criticizing Obama for making "false claims" in the mail piece -- we've looked into the chart. In it, we did not have the Clinton campaign using the word "boon" in describing NAFTA. The word was our characterization of how we best understood her position on NAFTA, based on a review of past stories and her public statements.

Tasini called for scrapping NAFTA in 2006. She did not.

We do not have a direct quote indicating her campaign told us she thought it was good for the economy at that time. Also, for that matter, Clinton's campaign did not contact us to question the item after it appeared in print.

Obama's use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading. The quote marks make it look as if Hillary said "boon," not us. It's an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office.

That said, we should have been clearer.

[Midlodemocrat]

126. Who's we?

:shrug:

[IndianaGreen]

128. Hillary supported NAFTA, and she is now being called on it by Obama.

Tasini called for scrapping NAFTA in 2006. She did not.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/23/693956.aspx

[Darth_Kitten]

129. another desperate newbie?

Yawn.......can't wait until Spring Break. :sarcasm:

[Skwmom]

134. Maybe they're trying to play the poor woman being attacked by the

mean old men card again. Funny, she doesn't seemed to be bothered by all the false flyers she sends out about Obama.

[skooooo]

135. video?? nt

[WinkyDink]

136. "She talking Obama attacking other Democrats!" Means what?

[texas_indy]

137. I guess she didn't like the 30,000 person rally for Obama in Austin, huh? (nt)

[EndElectoral]

141. It's pretty sad. to watch We've seen enough of "unhinged" Presidents. I hope she seeks therapy.

[skooooo]

142. HOLY SHIT

I'd say she's desperate. She'll lose future credibility..

[yardwork]

143. Welcome to DU! I see you've learned today's word - UNHINGED.

[Political Heretic]

145. Her campaign looks schizophrenic

..as well as desperate and at this point, pathetic.

Harsh words, but fair is fair, and she wants to go nuclear as some last ditch desperate ploy, then I'm going to call it like I see it.

Note I didn't say Hillary was any of these things - I said her campaign was. There's a difference.

[JimGinPA]

148. It Is nt

[dailykoff]

149. Hilly the wonk, not.

This is the real Hilly -- all hat, no policy. Sad.

[Khaotic]

152. What's Next for Hillary?

[barb162]

154. Obama looked unhinged responding to her with his lame excuses.

[Thrill]

156. He did very well. Considering how tough it had to be

to keep from laughing at her

[barb162]

162. It didn't stop me from laughing at his dumbass response

and defensiveness.

[dailykoff]

157. Incorrect. As always Obama showed coolness under fire

and that's another reason he's flattening Sybil.

[barb162]

165. He showed fear. She's turning her campaign around and he'll wither

away.

[psychopomp]

158. I just watched it, finally

It's a bit unnerving because I don't know which Hillary Clinton to expect when I watch her performances--the make-nice Clinton with the soft voice who wants "to have a conversation" or the Goddess of War.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

164. You're Desperate.

For attention. It's quite obvious.