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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:05 PM
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Why Hillary Clinton’s Iraq Vote Does Matter
Good article, well worth reading in its entirety.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/23/7245/

Why Hillary Clinton’s Iraq Vote Does Matter
by Stephen Zunes

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In voting to authorize the invasion of Iraq, then, Senator Clinton has offered a clear demonstration of how she would approach international affairs and security policy:

* the United States need not abide by its international legal obligations, including those prohibiting wars of aggression;

* claims by right-wing Republican officials and unreliable foreign exiles regarding a foreign government’s military capabilities are a more legitimate basis for analyzing possible security threats than are empirical studies by independent arms control analysts and United Nations inspectors;

*concerns expressed by scholars and others knowledgeable of the likely reaction by the subjected population to a foreign conquest and the likely complications that would result should be ignored and faith should instead be placed on the occupation policies forcibly imposed upon that population by a corrupt right-wing Republican administration.

There are also a number of reasons to suspect that, if elected president, Senator Clinton could lead the United States into yet another disastrous war:

* she has refused to apologize for her vote to authorize the invasion, indicating her willingness to support another aggressive war in the future

* she has repeatedly threatened the use of military force against Iran and voted in favor the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which many fear the administration could use as justification for launching military action against that country

* just as she falsely claimed Iraq had a nuclear weapons program back in 2002, she also falsely claimed just last year that Iran had a nuclear weapons program, even though International Atomic Energy Agency and independent arms control specialists at that time, as well as a subsequent NIE report, indicated that this was untrue

As a result, Senator Clinton’s October 2002 vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq is not simply “water under the bridge.” It is very relevant and says a lot about what kind of president she would be.



Stephen Zunes is a professor of politics and international studies at the University of San Francisco, where he chairs the program in Middle East studies.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:10 PM
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1. Hillary's voters don't seem to care about this very much
It's not that they are pro-war, but they don't seem to take Iraq very seriously.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:14 PM
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2. If they cared, they wouldn't be supporting her. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:18 PM
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5. hilary's supporters don't
give a shit about anything and they all have to turn into liars when they endorse the inevitable one.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:49 PM
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10. You damned "one-issue" voters!
:sarcasm:




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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:15 PM
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3. Right on Sis
OK the IWR was bad enough but why I didn't vote for her was because of the Kyl/LIEberman amendment-that one sent me over to Edwards and a week before our bullshit primary down here, when it was clear to everyone (INCLUDING the Edwards team) that they weren't going to win any contests-I switched over to Obama OVER Clinton and never once looked back
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:16 PM
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4. Oh hilary's just an opportunist who is
out callin' Obama on his rove tactics..I can't wait until he leaves her in her toxic dust.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:19 PM
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6. Excellent post.
It's heartbreaking to me that so many DUers who once railed against her IWR vote are today firmly in her camp. :-(
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:23 PM
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7. But Kerry did it too - which is why he ain't running again!
Yet the same asshats that vilified Kerry for his IWR vote have endorsed Hillary and "forgiven" her - even though she hasn't apologized for it and even said, "If you don't like it, vote for someone else."

So, we did.

In droves.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:26 PM
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8. Kerry and Edwards both had the good grace to apologize when
they realized how boneheaded they'd been. Not so Clinton. That says a lot about her, and reminds me of *, which is another strike against her.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 03:36 PM
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9. It's really sad, too. Because it sets a precedent for other woman not to apologize.
My sister called me a sonovabitch last week and said "I'm not apologizing either."

LoL
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