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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:16 PM
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Does anyone have the flyers that Clinton and Obama are fighting about?
Clinton's on a big tirade today about these flyers.

I would like to see what those flyers actually say.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:20 PM
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1. I got one each here in Ohio.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 04:29 PM by liberalnurse
Awful! Trash, as a nurse, I am appalled at his attack on universal health care.

Obama is slime.



Here are more details of Obamas's misleading, shameful flyers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4727971&mesg_id=4727971
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:23 PM
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3. Can you quote them?
I'd like to see them myself.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:21 PM
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2. Ohio NAFTA flyer here
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:23 PM
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5. Thank you. That's what I need!
I still want to see the health care flyer.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:28 PM
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6. And here's the Ohio health care flyer.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:32 PM
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7. Oh no...........
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 04:32 PM by liberalnurse
I gave that link out earlier.,,,,:scared: :blush: ....:rofl::banghead: :pals:

Isn't this fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woohoo: OHIO!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:03 PM
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8. do you need some more links?

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.

Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
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Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail


A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail.
The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs



Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance

By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 04:23 PM
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4. Two of the complaints are...
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 04:25 PM by godai
...Clinton's health plan will force you to pay for health insurance, even if you can't afford it.

...Clinton thought NAFTA was a 'boon' to the economy.

This paraphrases the info in the mailers. You can see how the wording in the first instance would strike a nerve (RE:even if you can't afford it). The 2nd example uses a newspaper quote, which the newspaper has since changed.
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