Hillary Appears To Have Gone Over the Edge

[K Gardner]

No sane person could truly believe what she was screaming about today. Such faux outrage is blatantly disingenuous.

No sane person would cozy up with a "Closing Conciliation" in the debate and turn around and freak totally out, demeaning and ostracizing the man she just held her hand out to and said she was "honored to be here with". Especially after she got such rave reviews for her plagiarized statement.

No sane person would go ballistic over a flyer that has been around for months, knowing that everyone knew it had been around for months.

"Let's have a REAL campaign, ENOUGH WITH THE SPEECHES and RALLIES! SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA. MEET ME IN OHIO and LETS HAVE A REAL DEBATE!"

With this, Hillary has ended her misguided and bipolar campaign on a note that will destroy whatever legacy or place she might have had left in the Democratic Party.

On top of all that, she looked like an emotionally unbalanced, hysterical human being.

Very unfortunate, indeed.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/23/clinton.mailings/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

[LadyVT]

1. Her comments were strong and forceful, not "insane crazy lady"--come on!

Stop the name calling.

[K Gardner]

4. Might want to tell your candidate that. She's the one name-calling.

[ORDem]

79. When she started throwing around non sequiturs about stopping

the big rallies, etc. yes, I'm afraid that was over the top and driven by emotion not logic. Very un-Presidential.

[catgirl]

82. She sure looks like she's on the verge of a breakdown

But she claims she "can take a punch!".

[LadyVT]

2. Her comments were strong and forceful, not "insane crazy lady"--come on!

Stop the name calling.

[CountAllVotes]

3. totally schizo IMO

she is not doing herself nor her campaign any good. It is making one question her sanity.

:kick:

[maddiejoan]

5. typical

sexist garbage.

Shame on you.

[K Gardner]

6. Shame on Hillary. She just played into every stereotype that could possibly be used against her.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Being A Woman Doesn't Give You Immunity From Being Called For Sexist Remarks

That's an absurd argument...

[K Gardner]

18. I'm not asking for Immunity. I spoke my mind. Sorry you can't handle the truth.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. It Has Nothing To Do With The Truth And Everything To Do With Making An Imbecilic Argument

~

[K Gardner]

39. Right ! Which is exactly what Hillary just did. But she was hysterical when she did it.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

101. She Wasn't Even Close To Being Hysterical. You're Acting Sexist And Disingenuous.

Those of us with intellect here, see right through it. Shameful behavior on your part and others pushing the same memes. Disgraceful day for GDP in general, in fact.

[maddiejoan]

14. Ugh

pathetic.

Truly and totally pathetic.

[ORDem]

80. Agreed. That was just pure emotional anger, not rational. n/t

[EFerrari]

34. Shame on you for using sexism as a blanket defense for the indefensible.

Sexism means something and it's not "I need to whine about my candidate".

Shame on you for debasing that term and by extension, the millions of women who endure actual sexism. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[maddiejoan]

55. Read the OP

it's a blatant form of sexist attack.

It's practically textbook.

[Voice for Peace]

146. thank you, well said. nt

[Nedsdag]

43. Where is it sexist?

The truth hurts I guess.

[K Gardner]

48. I want that picture !! wow.

[madaboutharry]

83. Where can I get this picture of Barack?

Thanks.

[psychopomp]

105. Right-click>Save image as...

[murielm99]

60. Ignore it, maddie.

I just put two more of them on ignore. They are really out in force today.

I have work to finish. I might come back when some of them go for their naps.

I spent a really productive morning at a workshop for constituents. Our Congressional candidate held the workshop. He wanted to get ideas about which issues are the most important to his prospective voters. That sort of thing is much more rewarding than the attack/counterattack that has come to define DU.

Do you think thoughtful debate will ever return here?

[maddiejoan]

61. Nope

I think Obama Underground has jumped the shark today.

[JackORoses]

75. Hillary has jumped the Flyer. She is now liitle more than a characiture.

[K Gardner]

78. LOL.. you always come up with the zingers, Jack. Good one.

[tabasco]

97. Somebody holding a gun to your head to be here?

Didn't think so.

[Raejeanowl]

111. Today? Just Today? n/t

[psychopomp]

104. That is just B.S.

Stop with the nonsense, please.

Regarding the OP, it looks like this was Sen. Clinton's "hail Mary pass." Nothing else they have tried has worked so Team Clinton figures that it is time to go for broke. This stunt would either turn things around, they figured, (it won't) or it would turn even more people against their candidate.

[Zhade]

118. Typical bullshit. Where's the sexism?

Men don't ever get hysterical?

[marylanddem]

7. couldn't agree more

one of the most patronizing things you can say to any one is "shame on you" especially if you're a white woman talking to a black man - I'm not black but I think I would really, REALLY, take offense at that remark.

[K Gardner]

15. I agree. It was a calculated and preplanned statement. Every word was thought out for

maximum benefit and impact. Hillary just added the faux hysteria. She looked completely OUT OF CONTROL.

With her temper and her inability to manage money, her campaign or her staff.. or even to know who she, herself, is.. I don't want her anywhere near the Oval Office, foreign leaders, or the Red Telephone.

[murielm99]

16. There is nothing racist about this.

How many times are you going to hurl this baseless accusation today?

[marylanddem]

42. Because it was SO patronizing, and I'll say it as much as I want, thanks

[murielm99]

52. Then I will continue to tell you that you are wrong.

She wants more debates. He won't debate because he sucks when someone has not written a nice little speech for him. He wants to be President and he can't think on his feet?

[Why Syzygy]

54. They ARE debating in Ohio. Scheduled.

She was screaming into the wind! Get it now?

[Big Blue Marble]

65. You are saying he sucked in the debate on Thursday?

Your charge is not backed by the facts of the evening. He was on his game.
He held his own just fine. His learning curve is soaring. Every time he debates,
he gets better and better.

That is her problem now. In the one area that she counted on to be her advantage,
he is winning.

Your response is so ignorant. Barack Obama is one of the smartest persons to run for
president in the history of this country.

[mckeown1128]

90. you say he won't debate when they just had the

19th debate two days ago and they have a planned debate in a week. Wow... I don't think Clinton is the only one unhinged. Some here seem to be too.

[NDambi]

128. She's better be careful..he bested her in last week's debate..she's not as good as she thinks..

nor is he as bad as she thinks..

[snappyturtle]

91. It's humiliating to say the least. "Shame on you" is what is said to

a misbehaving child.....or to the lion in the Wizard of Oz....not to the leading Democratic Presidential candidate! I find Sen. Clinton's messages(s) incongruous....everything changes from day to day. If she could just manage to focus on message and stick to it, she might be faring better.

[Zhade]

119. I'm guessing as many times as Clinton supporters will throw out baseless claims of sexism.

Like in this very thread.

[GumboYaYa]

8. She has sunk as low as she could go.

She has her minions attack all day yesterday on a BS Rovian attack. The Clintons are scum. I can't wait to see her lose.

[godai]

44. Oh no...stick around. I think it will get worse.

Until TX and OH primary day, expect every imaginable negative attack. This, I believe, is just the start.
If Obama is smart, he'll calmly respond, since he doesn't even need to win TX and Ohio. Further, the negative attacks may backfire.

Change you can Xerox....Shame on you Barack Obama...how low can she go? Makes the love-fest at the end of the last debate seem so contrived.

[K Gardner]

49. All he has to do Tues Night is stand there, be his dignified and graceful self, and let her pull one

of these stunts on LIVE TV. I can't wait.

[XemaSab]

67. .

:popcorn:

[flor de jasmim]

62. She can go lower...

That's one thing I have learned from the past 7 years--every time you think people have gone as low as they can, they come out with something new. Talk about calling the kettle black! (And it looks like she practiced the gestures ahead of time.)

[truedelphi]

9. No, her mind was lost on that sad and fateful day afterr the '04 election

When her boy Carville told Kerry that there was no way his demanding a full audit of the vote in Ohio would help him - that there were only 150,000 outstanding ballots, not enough to overcome Bush's 138,000 lead. Kery conceded less tahn 24 hours after the election.

And when she called Edwards and she told him to "quit grandstanding" and had him back down from his promise to see that every vote counts.

She might be a "Democrat" but her belief in DEMOCRACY is nil.

[bunnies]

10. ballistic is right.

Hillary: screaming rant. Obama: calm response.
That freak-out was incredibly unprofessional. To say the least.

[TwilightGardener]

11. Honor! Shame! Honor! Shame! Honor! Shame! Honor! Shame!

That's just nuts.

[rzemanfl]

24. Makes her look full of crap, doesn't it? n/t

[TwilightGardener]

31. Yes--the "honor/shame" reversal makes her look melodramatic

and out of control.

[ORDem]

81. LOL!! n/t

:kick:

[Pamela Troy]

12. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.

"Lost her mind in the most literal sense of the word?" Do you know what "literal" means?

I just watched it. I saw an angry woman, but one who is in complete control and quite articulate. She's not screaming, emotionally unbalanced, or hysterical. She's not irrational.

Can we please dispense with this "crazy lady" rhetoric?

(An Obama supporter sick of the hyperbole surrounding Hillary Clinton here.)

[KittyWampus]

103. yeah, well factor in the reversal of her behavior from the debate to today. Normal, balanced

people don't change demeanor that much.

Heck, just look at the debate itself. During the course of that one event she went to being nasty and insulting to being chummy.

It's all fake- the outrage, the humility and camaraderie.

But she comes across as unbalanced.

[Raejeanowl]

110. Thank You! n/t

[melody]

17. The scream of someone who wants to win and doesn't care about the party

She knows winning is impossible now. She just wants to make sure no one wins the Democratic nomination
if she can't.

It's very, very sad -- this is someone for whom I had tremendous respect.

[4themind]

64. Will this become her "Dean" scream? nt

[ORDem]

84. Apples and Oranges. This was worse than any Dean scream.

This was planned, calculated, and as usual she can't deliver the goods her lobbyist advisors cook up for her without barfing on the line or overdoing it. Like that force, awkward xerox moment.

I'm now of the belief that she is just one of those front candidates who have absolutely no control over their own campaign. I mean the campaign has been a total disaster of mismanagement. Either she's an idiot or she delegates everything to others. Either way, doesn't sound like Presidential material to me (OK, well I mean sure there are Presidents who are idiots, lol, but you know what I mean).

[K Gardner]

114. These are all excellent points, ORDem. Very astute analysis :-)

[TexasObserver]

19. This is what happens to a campaign when they let Toonces the Driving Cat drive it.

She's going down, no matter what she does. But she's crashing & burning UGLY.

[elizm]

20. LOL....bipolar campaign...perfect! :) nt

[greguganus]

133. From bi-partisan to bi-polar. n/t

[workinclasszero]

21. She came across today as seriously unhinged and not in control

of her emotions.

Defiantly NOT presidential material at all!

[Metric System]

59. Oh you have GOT to be kidding me!

[XemaSab]

68. So was she feigning outrage today, or was that genuine, over-the-top outrage?

:shrug:

[IndianaGreen]

86. It was faux outrage, just as it was a faux emotional debate closing

The Clintons are expert liars and manipulators.

[NDambi]

130. Be careful with "unhinged" I used it in a topic and was called sexist! lol

[Johnny__Motown]

22. This has nothing to do with her gender, She says we have not had a real campaign (insane?)

So, there have been what? 35 contests so far and we have not had a real campaign yet?

She is on the record saying that this would all be over by Feb. 5th and now Feb. 23rd we have not yet had a real campaign?


Yes, she sounds insane. If a man had said the exact same thing he would have sounded insane.

It isn't sexist, it is about your grasp on reality.

[K Gardner]

26. Thanks Johnny. You actually expressed it much better than I did. Howard

Dean just got excited and shouted the names of a few states. The MSM crucified him for it.

Let's see if Hillary's outburst gets the same play.

[Johnny__Motown]

36. hehe, thanks. I tried

[EFerrari]

23. No kidding. She just acted like a cartoon of a woman.

Thanks, Hil!

[jlake]

25. She sure has Obama and his supporters worried..... just sayin'

[tekisui]

30. Grossed out. No worries.

Everyone can see through that faux outrage shit she spewed today.

[K Gardner]

33. Yes. Worried that she might get her finger on the Button in the War Room, get mad and totally lose

control. Now THAT is scary.

[TwilightGardener]

35. To use her latest slogan: Get real. You know as well as we do she's going down in flames.

[ecstatic]

38. not "worried..." More like shaking our heads in disbelief and astonishment

She is accusing Obama of the very things her campaign has done in the past few weeks. :crazy:

[Zhade]

120. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I'm not even pro-Obama (proBama?) and that remark is HYSTERICAL.

(Get it?)

[VolcanoJen]

27. Did you see that Washington Post article today about her flailing campaign?

Sounds to me like that piece might have put her in a fightin' mood this morning. It's fascinating.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/22/AR2008022203028.html

[K Gardner]

47. "There's not a lot of denial left at this point." There's only Anger.. and whatever Hillary's MOOD

is on any given day. And that is frightening. Our entire party at the mercy of her moods and bitterness and Mark Penn.

[VolcanoJen]

50. It IS frightening.

Are Mark Penn and Howard Wolfsson going to burn down the party just to line their own pocketbooks? It really is starting to look that way, isn't it?

:grr:

[tekisui]

28. She was belittling and shrill. Sounded like a mom scolding a kid.

She looked stupid and petty. "Shame on you!" Very un-professional and un-presidential.

That's not gonna win her any supporters.

[Adelante]

29. She wasn't hysterical at all

She was just lying.

[K Gardner]

37. Lie Hard, With a Vengeance.. the sequel

[TwilightGardener]

40. ...

:rofl:

[NDambi]

131. Ha Ha..no you didn't

[greguganus]

134. LMAOBAMA! N/T

[Hieronymus]

41. As I see it, Hillary's campaign is the one using Karl Rove tactics ..

for months.
As Obama replied, they weren't so vicious when his ratings were down 20%.

[Major Hogwash]

45. How many debates does she have to lose before she throws in the towel?

She said she wanted more debates before Wisconsin - and look at how well that worked out for her there!

[The Backlash Cometh]

46. Remember, you're talking about the person who was first to break

it to us that there was a right-wing conspiracy in this country. She was right about that.

[XemaSab]

70. That was before they assimilated her

n/t

[bvar22]

95. Here is a photo titled "After the Assimilation":

Here is a photo of Hillary with Rupert Murdoch,
who is an owner of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (VRWC) Media Machine.

Hillary used to fight against the Right Wing Media.
NOW, she is their BFF.

[The Backlash Cometh]

126. BFF. I love those commercials.

Brings back the extended family in a way we rarely see.

[Zhade]

122. You're kidding, right?

Remember NIXON? That was long before her "insight".

She stated the obvious, no more.

[The Backlash Cometh]

129. Clinton got eviscerated for that comment. She had to deal with immense

criticism, just like she's doing now. And she was talking about something that wasn't around during Nixon's time. The odd news filtration. It would start on Drudge by midnight, get blogged on Lucianne Goldberg and the other right-wing blogs by noon, and on FoxNews by 5:00. The Clintons had to deal with something that no one had to deal with before. Major news channels weren't waiting for a second opinion, before airing the news.

There is a lot to criticize Hillary Clinton over, but it chips away at the Obama supporter's moral authority when they throw cluster bombs barbs in an indiscriminate manner.

[1776Forever]

51. It was very shrill and I am a woman - I think it's way over board. She has done some things too....

I heard a guy call in on Ed Schultz show and say he was a Democrat monitor in the Nevada caucuses and said he was amazed when the people who were there for Hillary pulled out books that were similar to the Democrat's Official Nevada version that said different things then the Official book did. He said they tried to close the doors at 11:30 am and not the 12:00 pm time and when he told them it was not allowed they said, "But our book says so" and he told them that is not the "official" book of the Democrat Party of Nevada!

Also - I heard of some very negative phone calls made in Wisconsin before the Primary that were questionable by the Hillary Campaign.

It is not a time to become an old-fashioned campaigner who will do anything to win! I hope she will tone it down for her own legacy!

:hide:

[Why Syzygy]

53. They accused her of quitting so she had to go balistic.

lol . "misguided and bipolar"

I was shocked. Guess you can say she's going down swinging.

[Name removed]

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[cottonseed]

57. Panic is setting in.

I think most unbiased followers of this campaign are going to start asking questions as to what her real motivations are for continuing on this way. This type of behavior is typical of most people staring out at the abyss, panic sets in, and you just rattle off as many shots as you can, praying that something works.

[Bucky]

58. Rhetoric gripe: "In the Most Literal Sense of the Word"

"The Most Literal Sense of the Word" would mean that someone has removed her brain from her cranium.

According to an early poll on DU today, you are one of the panic monkeys.

[K Gardner]

63. Suggestion for revision? Certainly don't want to be a "panic monkey"

[XemaSab]

66. As opposed to the fake debate they just had?

:shrug:

Well, one of them, at any rate. :P

[Name removed]

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[ErnestoG]

74. "No more big speeches and rallies!" HAHAHAHAHAHA

Your candidate just exposed herself as the biggest loser on the political horizon. Truly not in control of her own behavior.

[terrya]

71. "Emotionally unbalanced"?

I guess I didn't see the same clip you did. I didn't see someone screaming, or foaming at the mouth. Judging from the hyperbole of your post..."emotionally unbalanced, hysterical human being", I was expecting a couple of guys fitting a straitjacket over a screaming insane person. That's not what I saw. She was angry about this. She's not allowed to be angry about campaign tactics of the Obama campaign? :shrug:

[AbbyR]

137. This whole thing reminds me of my children

It must be a kid thing. My three are grown now, and when they want to infuriate me, they tell me, "Calm down, Mom."
"Calm down," when all I am doing is pointing out, in a reasonable, perfectly calm and quiet tone, that they are wrong about something. If I say they are wrong, I am over the edge and need to calm down. Doesn't matter that I'm not screaming, not "over the edge," and have perfect control of what I am saying - if I say they might like to reconsider their actions or what they said, I need to calm down. Good grief.

[DemGa]

72. Do you notice these Obama-nuts attack Passive Aggressive style?

Make no mistake -- this passive aggressivity comes from the top down.

[ErnestoG]

73. This is the bluster and fumble of an Entitlement Candidate denied their cake

Mark the image well.

[ORDem]

85. Well said. n/t

:kick:

[bvar22]

96. !

:thumbsup:

[K Gardner]

76. OK. For those who object to the term "hysterical" in the OP, please select one from

the list below, provided by and thanks to Bleachers7:

agitated, berserk, beside oneself, blazing, carried away*, convulsive, crazed, crazy, delirious, distracted, distraught, emotional, excited, fiery, frantic, frenzied, fuming, furious, impassioned, impetuous, incensed, irrepressible, mad, maddened, nervous, neurotic, overwrought, panic-stricken, passionate, possessed, rabid, raging, rampant, raving, seething, spasmodic, tempestuous, turbulent, uncontrollable, uncontrolled, unnerved, unrestrained, uproarious, vehement, violent, wild, worked up

[greguganus]

135. You left out "unhinged" n/t

[Leopolds Ghost]

147. Frumious?

Beware the John McCain, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Clinton bird, and shun
The frumious O'bamasnatch!

[progdog]

77. I hope that's not how she would handle a crisis. n/t

[ErnestoG]

87. Thank you. The SINGLE scariest afterthought of that entire sad spectacle.

[Thrill]

88. Sounds like a loose cannon

[BringBigDogBack]

89. Hahaha, isn't it funny?

They just HAD a debate. rofl... :rofl:

Cut the shit with the inspiration, and the Hugh crowds of excited supporters. Cut that shit out. Undermines core democratic values. lol!

[WinkyDink]

92. Context and details would help.

[K Gardner]

93. Follow the link in the post. Or read the other dozen or so posts about it.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

94. Note the crowd reaction...

Dead silence until the end, and then a little polite applause.

Her campaign is SO last month. She's getting more shrill every day -- by the time they debate, her voice will be at a pitch so high only dogs can hear it.

[dailykoff]

98. She overdid the outrage, yes.

Way overdid, particularly with respect to the subject. Obama coolly swatted it down in one sentence.

[jlake]

99. Yeah, okay.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

100. I Just Now Saw The Video. She Wasn't Screaming At All. She Was Being Strong.

I thought she did awesome in fact. I'm amazed (not really) at how overhyped some here have made it and how over the top they are being in response. She handled herself great!

[NMMNG]

102. Sexism isn't bad enough,

Now you have play armchair psychiatrist and malign people with mental illness?

Just when I thought the Obama supporters could stoop no lower.

[TexasObserver]

106. It was Hillary's battle cry, leading her troops on a Banzai Charge

Just when we thought she was going to accept defeat gracefully and give us something on which to build, she decided to lead her suicide charge. Predictably, it reignited her troops here, and they joined the Banzai Charge.

As in WWII, when American troops faced such suicide charges, they predictably fired back.

I am disappointed that Hillary has chosen to go out so badly, and take her loyal troops down this destructive path. She hasn't shown leadership, but desperate ambition bitterly ending.

[K Gardner]

115. Oh lord, Tex.. you never let me down ! LOL.

[TexasObserver]

121. Watch for the headlines and news themes tomorrow.

They'll be saying "Is Hillary Losing It?

And they'll be right. She is.

[greguganus]

136. Kamikaze Clinton? n/t

[better tomorrow]

107. She fights like a kid in the sandbox....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYj00Ft37VA

[K Gardner]

116. That's funny, yet informative ! Good find :-)

[Raejeanowl]

108. Hysterical? Emotionally Unbalanced? Bi-Polar? Screaming?

Your egregious use of those words against another female, particularly "hysterical," to describe behavior that might arguably have been disproportionately angry or disingenuous or cunningly timed or whatever other criticisms you care to lob (possibly Clinton throwing down the gauntlet by whatever means necessary for reasons that have not yet been revealed) is what is MOST unfortunate.

As for this flyer, "everyone" did not know about it; our Democratic, super-voting household apparently has the wrong demographics for Obama to have bothered. I think one item came in the mail addressed to my young daughter that she sent straight into the recycling bin. Didn't Clinton herself allude to having already expressed disapproval or objection about it or its contents to the Obama camp, yet they continue to distribute it? So how is the outrage over a continuing objectionable action false?

Think about your words the next time Obama raises his voice in righteous indignation towards Clinton, and by all means, come back and insult him here for acting that way. I'll be waiting; but I won't hold my breath.

[Thepricebreaker]

109. YOU ARE SEXIST!

:evilgrin: :eyes: :eyes:

[Unbowed]

112. It is unfortunate.

She came off like John McCain when he's on one of his rants. In fact, hasn't McCain used the "shame on you" line or something very similar before?

Anyone remember this?

[Raejeanowl]

113. I Just Watched The Video AGAIN

And followed with the Obama "rebuttal" for good measure, in which he said the flyer had been around for days or weeks, not "months." Disingenuous, indeed.

Well, folks, I guess some were prematurely readying for the group hugs when it was thought that Clinton's remarks were the beginnings of a concession speech? And now that it's clear they're not that just yet....?

Yes, I do hear a hint of a gauntlet being thrown down by Clinton. Maybe she's genuinely "gone over the edge" of taking the higher road on camera over something VERY recent, like hearing the revised short-term predictions from HIS camp?

What Obama does NOT want to do is debate her one-on-one in a more informal, think-on-your-feet setting than the last. She will wipe the floor with him. This is where it most obvious and undeniable that he is outclassed (without think-tank entourage and scripted support).

I still fail to see exactly what the "stridency" or "hysterics" is here, much less, insanity. Clinton is behaving in a strong, forceful, even aggressive manner that would have her automatically swamped with laurels and accolades about her personal power, drive and courage IF SHE WERE A MAN. And with that totally disgusting thought in my head, I'm bidding this certifiably sexist swamp of a thread goodnight.

[Marie26]

117. An emotionally imbalanced hysterical skreeching Mata-Hari!

Don't forget witchy. Your concern is noted. :)

[TexanDem]

123. She's a desperate two-faced hypocrit! as well as bipolar....

First: If Hillary "knew" about the brochures before Tues' debate -- then how freakin' two faced can you get -- "I'm honored to be here with Barack!" Oh, pulleese!!
2nd thing: She rages he didn't accurately represent her position on health care. In debate, to his face, in Tues debate, she said he WANTED, CHOSE to leave out 15 million people -- which she knows is an absolute and direct misrepresentation of his policy!
What a hypocrit! She's a desperate, two-faced hypocrit!

[shayes51]

144. Would you think it was funny if someone said Hillary had cancer?

I think not. So, please don't use words like "bipolar" so loosely. I have a close family member who has bipolar disorder, and I don't find your analysis amusing.

[Iktomiwicasa]

124. In my culture...

...women on their moon time take a break from the rest of the community.

[Barack_America]

125. Hillary would gladly trade in her sanity for a victory...

...and appears to have done so.

I would've said that she would trade in her "dignity", but it really looked like she believed what she was saying. :crazy:

[K Gardner]

127. Yeah, I watched it again this morning. Yanno, fresh.. good night's sleep and

all that. And just marveled that it sounded worse today than it did yesterday. This is going to be the

MeltDown Heard Round The World :nuke:

What was she THINKING??!! :crazy:

[greguganus]

132. She needs to be mentally evaluated and release the results to the public. n/t

[Jacobin]

138. gasoline for the fire?

[HooptieWagon]

139. Gotta give her credit

for making ex-wives appear rational in comparison...

[rodeodance]

140. Calling voters in OHIO insane is a low from you. not that it surprizes me. I saw

saw a clip on abc news last evening----she said the same to the crowd as she said in news conference. and guess what--they where cheering.

get a grip before you call voters insane!




Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 04:05 PM by K Gardner
No sane person could truly believe what she was screaming about today. Such faux outrage is blatantly disingenuous.

[Eurobabe]

141. Damn I went skiing and missed this...

where do I find it?

[cooolandrew]

142. It did seem false outrage to me. I can't wait for the debate either, Obama is god at unspinning.

[rodeodance]

143. WRONG AGAIN---not "months" as you claim!---Be informed before you spout off please:

......No sane person would go ballistic over a flyer that has been around for months, knowing that everyone knew it had been around for months........




Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Researched the Obama Ohio mailer and found that
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4738043#4738043
4738043, Researched the Obama Ohio mailer and found that
Posted by Tennessee Gal on Sat Feb-23-08 11:07 PM

Some Ohio residents received the first mailer on 2/13 and the second on 2/15.
http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/obama-mailer-slams-clinton-nafta
http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/second-obama-mailer-slams-clinton-health-care-plan

That is backed up by this: The mailers have been in circulation in Ohio for several days.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332089,00.html


The Clinton campaign had seen the mailers in other states, had already discredited them, and believed they were no longer being used. That is why Hillary used the word "continuing" in her statement today when someone in the crowd showed her that they were being sent out in Ohio.

"I have to express my deep disappointment that he is continuing to send false and discredited mailings with information that is not true to the voters of Ohio. He says one thing in speeches, and then he turns around and does this."

Obama talks all the time of the "politics of old", "the politics of destruction", and how he wants to rise above that and have "substantive" debate. If that is so, why is he continuing to send out these mailers. And if this race is already over as his supporters apparently believe, perhaps they should explain to people why Obama continues attacking Hillary with these mailers.

[backscatter712]

145. What she's doing is making Hail Mary passes...

Just like in the closing seconds of the Superbowl.

Clinton is running out of options. Her campaign's running out of money, she can no longer afford enough ad buys and such to keep up with Obama. She's behind in delegates, the polling numbers are trending the wrong way for her at a tremendous pace. She's losing, and normal tactics to get things under control aren't working.

So she's down to going in front of the media and saying "I'm shocked! SHOCKED! to see Obama sending out flyers like this!"