Are you so mad at the opposing side in this presidential primary

[MoonRiver]

that you would like to hurt one or more of the other candidate's supporters? I don't mean you would do violence in reality, but is the feeling there?

The rage and actual hate I encounter on this board makes me believe that it's bordering on being dangerous.

For the record, I can honestly vote "No." But I'd like to know what others feel.

[Captain Hilts]

1. In Chevy Chase, the BO and HC demonstrators had a great time with each other on election day.

The idiots on this board, and KOS are not typical.

[lligrd]

2. No But As Of Today I Am Deeply Ashamed Of One Of Them nt

[apocalypsehow]

3. No. Besides which, I don't "hate" the supporters of the other candidate. After the primaries are

over, it will be all about focusing on beating the rethugs. These strong feelings between the Obama supporters and the Hillary supporters will subside and pass, at least between the decent among us.

[griffi94]

4. nope

i don't want to hurt anybody over anything...that said i won't vote for obama even if he is the nominee

[buff2]

5. I don't want to vote for him either

But I will IF he is our nominee. We can't afford a third term of a "Bu$h Presidency". :puke:

[apocalypsehow]

6. So, you will vote for McCain? Interesting.

n/t

[lark]

9. Not voting for the "d" is letting the "r"'s win

While I can't even listen to Obama these days, he so damn smug it makes me sick, if we Democrats end up him as our nominee, we have to just hold our noses and vote for him anyway, even those who are gagging at the thought. I have this conversation with my college age children (early 20's) at least once a week. They, as well as me, are angry at the way the media pounces of anything and everything the Clinton's say and do but just absolutely fall down fawning over Obama. We all think that he's either a fool or a liar if he thinks the cronyist right wing will work nicely with him, that he will get rolled and be a poor agent for the many profound changes needed to put this country back on the right track. I also think (being a bit of a conspiracy theorist) that the Repugs will stage some terrorist event in the US just prior to the election, and that will drive a lot of independents and conservative Dems straight to McCain. Hillary could probably weather it, but not Obama. Hopefully that's just my fear and won't really happen.

HOWEVER, any Dem would be better for the country than McCain, and if you don't vote Dem you are voting to continue the horrible path we've been on these last 8 years - voting to continue all war all the time. Please hold your nose and vote for him anyway, we need your vote!!

lark

[griffi94]

14. sorry

but the thought of mccain as president for 4 years doesn't scare me near as much as what i think will happen if obama becomes president. i think we'll be in iraq for 4 more years no matter who is president. at least if it's mccain the repubs get the credit for it. imo obama will wind up as ineffective as carter. the media will paint him as inept as soon as he wins. then the conservative democrats in congress will turn on him and there will be 4 years of gridlock, and in the end the repubs run jeb bush or somebody else just as bad in 2012 and he wins in a landslide. i'm a big fan of jimmy carter as humanitarian, but his presidency left a little bit to be desired. he ran on a platform of restoring trust in government after the nixon years. yep love and trust. real good slogan, almost as good as hope and change.

[apocalypsehow]

21. Sorry, but methinks you took a wrong turn on the internet somewhere....

Quoting Hillary supporter griffi94: "the thought of mccain as president for 4 years doesn't scare me near as much as what i think will happen if obama becomes president"

[griffi94]

31. no i'm where i meant to be

i'm a democrat, and will vote for all the democrats down ticket, but i won't vote for obama.
are you the self appointed thought police. i notice you've been a member here for almost a whole month.

[angie_love]

34. You are sadly mistaken if McCain doesn't scare you

Kiss pro-choice goodbye with all conservative judges. Say hello to more wars. Tell me what it is about Obama that you hate so much? Would it be his strong liberal voting record that you hate? Would it be his strong support for democratic ideals? He has never voted for a conservative platform.

What I really think is you won't vote for him b/c you hate that he might beat Hillary. Thats the real reason. You dislike him NOT based on his ideals but b/c he won. And if thats the case, its pretty disturbing that you'd set aside your democratic roots for a war mongering crazy like McCain. I think anyone who doesn't support the dem nominee is not truly a dem. Was never a true dem. And will never be a true dem. Plenty of Hillary supporters are classy enough to say they will support whoever the dem nominee is. They are classy, strong, and know that we need a dem in the whitehouse for the good of the country and party. You are a shame to your own party. Take a walk to the lieberman side.

[griffi94]

37. well aren't you just the little psychic

i'm not a hillary fan. i was supporting edwards. i won't support obama because i think his positions are weak, not because he's beating hillary, btw i did in fact give up on trying to find out further what his positions were after running into some of his more enthusiastic supporters online.
i'm not to worried about the judicial appointments mccain will make, as long as the democrats control congress. as i've already stated, i'll vote for all the democrats that are on novembers ticket, except obama. as far as you thinking that anybody who doesn't support the democratic nominee isn't a real democrat, well i've been a registered democrat for over 20 years, but that doesn't matter, because it's not really up to you how i vote is it.

[angie_love]

39. well your state is red anyway, not going to the dems so it probably doesn't matter

I am happily supporting whoever wins the dem nominee. We can't afford 4 more years of McBush, most democrats know that.

[apocalypsehow]

42. It doesn't take a "psychic" to figure out that it is highly unlikely that a "registered Democrat" of

"over 20 years" would be spending so much of their time trying to justify why they WON'T be voting for the probable Democratic nominee on a progressive discussion board....

[apocalypsehow]

36. Ah, here comes the "I've been here longer than you" silliness of those who've run out of things to

say. A lot of your playmates in the "pro-Hillary" crowd are fond of falling back on that retort, since they cannot argue the case for their candidate on the merits.

"i'm a democrat, and will vote for all the democrats down ticket, but i won't vote for obama"

The last statement in that sentence renders the first one highly unlikely. I don't believe you.

[griffi94]

41. you don't believe me

oh god don't say that...i might cry all night. i don't care what you believe. go pester somebody who does. oh and by the way, you're doing a great job of advancing obamas ambition by trying to bully me into supporting him, i'm sure that will work really well in the end.

[apocalypsehow]

You got it - I don't believe you. And your pretense that you ever had any intention of voting for

the Democratic nominee this November - regardless of who that happened to be - is, I believe, just that: a pretense.

[griffi94]

44. i just read your profile

you're from kansas, it isn't going to matter how you vote. in november kansas, like texas will still be as red as a baboons ass.

[apocalypsehow]

45. "in november kansas, like texas will still be as red as a baboons ass." Classy, as always.

:eyes:

[Catherine Vincent]

48. LOL!

[angie_love]

49. yeah you're sooo neutral

:eyes:

[apocalypsehow]

38. By the bye, tell Jimbo hi for me!

:hi:

[RaleighNCDUer]

46. Whereas you've made all of 600 posts in six years.

Just show up to piss on the progressives at election time, I guess.

[angie_love]

32. then get lost.

[cali]

7. I don't believe you

sorry. I won't soon forget your locked Jim Jones thread. That was as hateful as it gets.

[MoonRiver]

13. I don't know you cali, but the hate that emanates from your posts

is almost palpable.

[apocalypsehow]

19. I didn't see the OP's "Jim Jones" thread, it must have been pretty ugly. And that's what gets me:

so many of the Hillary supporters seem to play this game of being incredibly vicious on the one hand, and then self-righteous in their demands for "civility" on the other. It's almost schizophrenic.

[MoonRiver]

23. I don't remember what she's talking about.

Not saying it didn't happen, I just don't remember it. I even did a search of my username and Jim Jones and came up with nothing. :shrug:

[11 Bravo]

30. Actually, THIS was as hateful as it gets.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4712608

Sometimes, you're known by the company you keep.

[Johnny__Motown]

8. Not physical harm, hell no. I even feel bad Hillary had a sore throat and still had to campaign

But I still want her to drop out and stop damaging our party, but I don't wish her or anyone who supports her any harm.

[MaineDem]

10. Of course not

This is a contest between Democrats. I want one of them to win. If it's not my candidate, the other one is perfectly acceptable.

There's a lot of "rage and hate" from anonymous posters. I don't see that in real life.

[union_maid]

11. No, of course not

It just gets out of hand here. Messageboards do that. Have you ever seen the vitriol that accompanies discussion of what browser or e-mail provider is best? POP or IMAP? Matter of personal choice, or moral imperative? Nevermind Operating Systems. That's really dangerous territory. So, it's not too surprising that passions get out of hand when the subject of who is going to be running for POTUS, is it?

[XemaSab]

12. I could see myself having a beer and some chuckles with all but a few of the HRC supporters on here

:beer:

[Danger Mouse]

15. no. i think having to live with their idiotic selves

is punishment enough.

[avrdream]

16. No, but I am mad enough not to vote.

The Obama people have not been at all unifying towards other Dem supporters - just arrogant. There are multiple threads on DU that have mocking comments in them (and you guys know who you are) - BO himself comes across as arrogant and hasn't done a damned thing to stop his supporters from being arrogant towards other candidates.

That, in itself, may be enough for me not to send in my vote. Call me petty, call me what you will, but those are my true feelings right now.

[griffi94]

24. i wouldn't call you petty

or anything like that. it is unsettling that the democrats seemed to have turned into a liberal version of the rw. if you don't praise obama while admitting how horrible the clintons are, then you're considered fair game. i guess next we'll resort to loyalty pledges, kind of like bush did.
as for not voting, that's a personal choice, and imo nobody has a right to tell you who to vote for or against.

[Dogmudgeon]

17. There are a lot of psychos on this forum

I don't even know why I come here any more. Team Obama PWNs.

There are also Hillary supporters who are a spectacle, but with a 4:1 to 6:1 ratio of O:C, it's easy to mistake the Obama fans as the Obama Borg. I suppose there are fora where the ratio is reversed, but overall, the Internet is quick to join the bandwagon. It's about 3:1 in general cyberspace.

One hour here causes severe depression. Despair -- loss of hope. Fortunately I bounce back quickly.

I never thought I'd be looking forward to John McCain taking the oath of office, but at least it will result in a return of Democratic solidarity.

Naah, strike that. I'm in for the duration. Lock and load. The assholes on our team can tender their apologies right after the Inaugural Ball.

--p!

[angie_love]

35. so you want McCain to win? wow

:wow:

[Onlooker]

18. I'm actually more mad at the Obama supporters

I support Obama, but can't stand the bullying, sexism, and gloating of some of the Obama supporters. I like Hillary a lot and think she's a terrific candidate; it's just that we have an even better one in Obama. I guess if he inspires religious awe that's not such a bad thing as long as it doesn't go to his head, but the zealots can be awfully annoying.

[Occam Bandage]

20. Perhaps you need to back off a bit. I've never gotten that vibe.

[MoonRiver]

26. Please notice that 3 people have admitted to feeling that way.

So it is not just my imagination. That said, I'm glad it's not an even higher number, at least not yet.

[avrdream]

28. Because you spend so much time gloating, you can't feel anyone else's "vibe".

The arrogant gloating doesn't help things.

[NastyRiffraff]

22. No, no violence, or even thought of violence

I'm angry at some of the more rabid, silly, and arrogant Obama supporters, but I wouldn't think of doing violence against any of them. I'd just like them to get a clue about what they're doing to hurt their own candidate.

A lot of people are swearing to not vote for him because of the hate-filled posts against Hillary. I'm not one of them...I want a Democrat in the White House...but sometimes I can understand the sentiment (and hope they rethink their decision).

[Vinca]

25. No, of course not. Get a grip. nt

[LWolf]

27. No. I'm not arrogant enough to appoint myself the adminstrator of vengeance,

or childish enough to throw a tantrum, or to use offense as a misdirection when I have nothing else to back me up.

If I were, I'd want to hurt most Democratic voters at this point for limiting me to unworthy candidates in May and in November.

Instead, I assume that most people are doing the best they can to make an informed choice in spite of the undemocratic, corrupt primary process.

I don't agree with their choices. I don't agree with their criteria. I don't agree with the reasons why they make those choices.

I understand them, though, and I believe enough in their right to make their own choices that I can't hate them, or attack them, for not seeing things my way.

[NMMNG]

29. I'm not the type to hurt people.

I'm just going to sit back and watch them stew in the mess they've created for themselves.

[Bongo Prophet]

33. Not just no, but HELL NO.

I will vote for the dem no matter the outcome.
It is the right thing to do at this point in history.

But beyond that, we will need to pull together to get out of this mess.
That requires self responsibility, and respect for each other.
It will be hard to forgive some who have gone all nutty this season, on both sides - but it is too important NOT to do so.

Let us start pulling back from the brink NOW, and not wait for a nominee.
SELF responsibility always starts NOW.

[Bucky]

40. I don't see Clinton as "the opposing side", only as a competitor to my candidate

Thanks for this poll, by the way. I hope it adds some perspective here.

[Forkboy]

43. I'd like to kill a lot of you.

Is he kidding or not? :evilgrin:

[Catherine Vincent]

47. Yes.

I'd like to slap a few Obama supporters. :)

[Why Syzygy]

50. Absolutely not. n/t