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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:07 PM
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Poll question: Did Hillary become "unhinged" over the flyer issue?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:08 PM
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1. I voted NO because she only pretended to become unhinged.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:11 PM
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7. Yeah, but unhinged was in quotes, so you still could have voted yes.
LOL!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:12 PM
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9. Dang; if I'd only known who was being quoted.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:39 PM
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31. Right. More "disingenuous" I'd say. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:08 PM
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2. She wasnt unhinged. She was playing politics.
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:47 PM
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11. Agreed. She was playing her politics.
If she was really being unfairly attacked by Obama's mailings then she would have sounded great. But I do not think she had been attacked by him on her health care plan. She was basically lying and she was committing the unfair Rovian attack. Just what I would expect from her. I am so glad many here see it too. I think she has been surprised that the masses are not just buying the BS she's selling. I used to really admire and support HC. Now I strongly dislike her.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:08 PM
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3. Define "unhinged"
:-)
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:44 PM
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39. There was a disconnect between her reaction and the harm she claimed was perpetrated against her.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:08 PM
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4. Yes. N/T
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:10 PM
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5. Yes, but it was planned - both flyers have been around for a month
and she didn't go after him about them. (why not at the debate? He was right there why not ask him about them??)

She can't afford ads

She can't afford flyers

All she can do is schedule press conferences and feign outrage.



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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:11 PM
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8. she has been sending out misleading flyers about Obama since Iowa.
she is a hypocrite. I just hope that someone in the media calls her on it. CNN is just letting the comments stand. I'm livid about it.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:17 PM
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10. I know - I'm in Iowa! I heard her speech about how she started the plan
that is now IDEA (which I ask Joe Biden's staff about since he was one of the first sponsors of the law :eyes:) I got the flyers from both campaigns. I (sadly) attended the rallies at the Boys and Girls Club, National Cattle Congress, Gallagher-Bluedorn - all sites that haven't been paid for those events yet - :crazy: Don't worry about the media not covering Obama's response, they're not taking her outburst seriously. CNN is laughing at her, I'm sure the others will be following suit.
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:52 PM
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13. Agree. It was a pretext to launch her attack.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:15 PM
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15. He hit me first
:cry:

Thing is ... I don't think she can afford an attack. Only if that 527 gets off the groud for her. Otherwise she'll have to keep calling press conferences and yell at Obama through them.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:10 PM
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6. I don't like Hillary at all...
But to say she became unhinged is ridiculous to say the least.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:49 PM
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12. Is there a video of said unhingement?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:17 PM
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19. From CNN
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:55 PM
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14. It was political theater: not so spontaneous "outrage" over flyers/claims that have been out for
weeks/months and previously publicly responded to by Clinton campaign.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:15 PM
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16. Yes, in a completely premeditated, planned manner.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:16 PM
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17. Poll: I'm An Obama Supporter. I'm A Hillary Supporter.
Call it what it is, will ya? LOL
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:17 PM
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18. "Unhinged" implies she's gone crazy. She hasn't.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:19 PM by Eric J in MN
Right-winger Michelle Malkin would probably consider anyone who regularly posts at DU as "unhinged" (Malkin wrote " Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild.")

Sounding angry doesn't mean going crazy.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:18 PM
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20. Bad political theatre and a Lose/Lose for her. Only two options here 1) She
truly became unhinged and lost control, resulting in a very undignified rant unbecoming the Future Leader of the Free World.

or

2) She didn't really come unglued, she was acting in political theatre, in which case she is a liar and disingenuous and willing to do anything including destroying the future Nominee and the Democratic Party to gain power.

Both 1 and 2 are Fatal Blows to her already Failing Campaign.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:26 PM
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24. Maybe she sees the poll numbers moving against her in TX and OH and...
...felt she had to take a gamble that if she expressed anger, people would side with her.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:28 PM
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25. It was a hastily thought-out and ill-conceived strategy, and if she has no better judgement than
to allow someone to put words/actions like that in her mouth, and to blindly follow what a strategist tells her to do rather than follow her "better angels" (if she has any, that wasn't evident today).. then she is NOT a leader. She is a follower.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:35 PM
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27. After 11 losses in a row, I can understand her feeling she has to do something different.
Wouldn't you say that her only chance of winning on March 4 is to do something different in the leadup?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:05 PM
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34. No, not really. I think she passed the point of being able to turn it around when she decided
all the states/caucuses/primaries Obama won, didn't matter. Anything drastic she does at this point is simply destructive, mainly to herself unfortunately :-)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:30 PM
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37. I've decided she made the wrong decision.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 09:31 PM by Eric J in MN
I can understand her wanting to try something new, but she should have come up with something ELSE new to do instead of getting angry and shouting at a press conference.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:00 PM
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43. And you hit the nail on the head. She can't even fake being sincere.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:20 PM
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21. She was acting, playing politics, lying
But she was not in the least "unhinged."
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:21 PM
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22. Less "became" than revealed what's always lurked beneath the surface.



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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:23 PM
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23. No, it was faux outrage all the way. Nice acting job though. nt
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:29 PM
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26. No, and she's not an "hysterical wifey" about it, either.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:36 PM
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28. Imagine Hillary's behavior if she had her hand on the launch codes.
Hows that image?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:37 PM
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29. I voted "Yes," but I really think that Hillary's outrage was rehearsed and phony
particularly when one could see Governor Strickland standing behind her mouthing the very same words Hillary was spewing.

Hillary is good at playing the victim.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:10 PM
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35. What performance of hers isn't?
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:38 PM
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30. Bigtime
Hillary finally cut the bullshit and gave Americans a glimpse of the real person behind the facade.

That alone ought to cost her the nomination. Keep it up Hillary!:rofl:
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:41 PM
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32. "Desperately Frustrated" is a better word.
When I first heard about the "ranting" (before I saw the clip), I thought she'd be frothing at the mouth. But it wasn't like that at all. Blown out of proportion, IMO.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:42 PM
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38. I agree that phrases like "unhinged" and "ranting" are inappropriate, but...
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 09:42 PM by Eric J in MN
...this wasn't another case where a politician was described as angry when he or she actually seemed calm.

It's not like the "Dean Scream" where he was portrayed as angry when he wasn't angry at the time.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:46 PM
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33. no- I don't believe so- it was an opportunity to put her frustration
dissapointment and anger into a tangible 'thing'.

I can honestly understand the level of emotion she must be coping with- but she dissapointed me in her response.


peace~
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:11 PM
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36. No. It was deliberate and calculated.
And it was stupid, because this hasn't worked for her for weeks.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:44 PM
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40. Contrast her behavior and tone against Barack's.
He is cool as a cucumber, she is spewing rage.

I used to think she was a smart politician ...
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rosetta627 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:46 PM
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41. She became unhinged over her loss of the democratic nomination
And used the flyer as an excuse.
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jlpohio69 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:51 PM
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42. Really no discrespect meant
but if you think terms such as "meltdown", "going nuclear", or "unhinged" described Hillary this morning during her stop in Ohio, then you need to get out more.
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