"O" supporters here have shown what his Hallmark words really mean - nothing - they are empty...

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Oh, he said HOPE. Oh, he said CHANGE. Oh, he said UNITY.

You see how that's been put into action here.

Hate in place of hope. Rovian tactics instead of change. Division instead of unity.

All talk, meaningless slogans, empty rhetoric.

I'll pass on that Koolaid now, and I'll pass on it in November.

I'd rather not vote than to vote for bullshit.


Thanks for showing us the true spirit behind the words the great and mighty "O" peddles. They turn out to be just words after all.

[tabatha]

1. If his words are empty and meaningless - why did Hillary get upset?

[Skip Intro]

2. Because lies and misrepresentations demand rebuttal?

[tularetom]

3. Panicky tirade does not equal rebuttal

[tabatha]

34. Yeah, like this one

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers.html

I did not see a press conference about this one.

[otohara]

40. I Will Vote For Hillary

should she win the nomination. Lots of BS on both sides, like that "it's an honor" line she gave us the other night at the debate. After today, I know that was a total lie.

[Cha]

4. Coming from a hilary that's

a compliment because I know the opposite is true.

[Skip Intro]

13. If you can look at this board and say the opposite is true, then you must be drunk on the koolaid.

Hate-filled, sexist thread after hate-filled sexist thread.

Pretend it isn't so all you like, one quick scan will prove the opposite.

[NanceGreggs]

5. If you are basing your vote (or non-vote) ...

... on what you read on DU or any other message board, you might consider the fact that your voting criteria is what's lacking in substance as opposed to either candidates' message.

[babylonsister]

6. Empty and meaningless, like this post? nt

[Skip Intro]

8. Oh, I'm sorry, did I intrude on the Unity mission you've all so apparently been waging?

please

[babylonsister]

12. What have you proved? You don't like Obama or his supporters. We 'get' that.

Why don't you build your candidate up instead of trying to shred another? This post is just another griping one with no facts, no nothin' but hate.

[emilyg]

19. Wouldn't it be nice if Obama supporters did that.

[babylonsister]

25. I do, every chance I get. nt

[Skip Intro]

20. It's not really Obama or his supporters I don't like, it's the bullshit and the hypocrisy.

Your post is a perfect example.

Take a quick scan of this forum. So many hatefilled threads posted by supposedly hopeful Obama supporters who want unity and change from politics as usual, but that doesn't stop them from shredding Hillary for every little move or word. Take a look. Hope and unity my ass.

And you say I should build my candidate up instead of saying something bad about Obama.

That's rich.

[babylonsister]

23. You're part of the problem. And on any given day, the tide could be

turned on DU and the majority of posts could be negative for Obama. You know that. This is just a bitch fest coming from you. I don't recall a positive thread you've started on your candidate.
So try it; I know if I don't agree, I won't post in it but you have every right to gather your fellow supporters around and congratulate her for something. So do it, and quit your moaning.

[sakabatou]

9. High-five!

:yoiks:

[IndyOp]

7. 65-pages of plan details is not a slogan, not empty rhetoric.

BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO CHANGE WASHINGTON AT A GLANCE
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN FOR A HEALTHY AMERICA
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO STRENGTHEN RETIREMENT SECURITY
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO GIVE EVERY AMERICAN CHILD A World Class Education
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN FOR A CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE AT A GLANCE
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN FOR RESTORING FISCAL DISCIPLINE
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO SUPPORT RURAL COMMUNITIES
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO RECLAIM THE AMERICAN DREAM FOR WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM AT A GLANCE
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO COMBAT POVERTY
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN FOR UNIVERSAL VOLUNTARY PUBLIC SERVICE
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO STRENGTHEN CIVIL RIGHTS
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO SECURE AMERICA AND RESTORE OUR STANDING
BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN TO KEEP OUR SACRED TRUST WITH VETERANS

Here's the Beef: Obama's 65-page BLUEPRINT 4 CHANGE (Pt.1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4726054

Here's the Beef: Obama's 65-page BLUEPRINT 4 CHANGE (Pt.2)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4726142

Here's the Beef: Obama's 65-page BLUEPRINT 4 CHANGE (Pt.3)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4726324

[still_one]

10. I am an Obama supporter, and in November I would be proud to vote for either Hillary or Barrack

you can do what you please because as far as I am concerned either candidate is exceptional, especially when compared to the mccain, who promises more war and no right to privicy

As far as obnoxious people on DU, no matter whether they are from the Obama camp or the Clinton camp, they only speak for themseleves

I understand your point though, and don't blame you, but I have seen the self-destruction on both sides, and do not like it either

Good luck with whatever you do

[Saturday]

11. I agree with you.

Most Obama supporters here actions are opposite of the words Obama speaks.

[Hatalles]

14. Hate? Division? Rovian tactics?

[mattclearing]

15. Of course, because Hillary is so bullshit-free.

Ask her about her IWR vote and then read the text of the resolution. Then get a shovel.

[emilyg]

16. They certainly have shown hate.

[ErnestoG]

17. At least Obama isn't unhinged.

I sure have had my fill of that sort of commander in chief.

[Skip Intro]

21. ROFL!!!!!! Thanks for proving my point. nt

[ErnestoG]

33. I agree with you. Hillary just comes unhinged too easily.

[emilyg]

50. that's 'cuz she is a f e m a l e

:sarcasm:

[Skip Intro]

51. A woman as president??? They shouldn't even be pilots! Or doctors!

Maybe a nice comfy assitant job, but you know, they're so emotional, so given to hysterics.

:sarcasm:

[emilyg]

53. Many years ago

I was in Pre-Med. My professor often talked to me about how I would be happier getting married and having kids.
We've come a long way - much more to go.

[frakus6]

18. The "Unity" claim really makes me laugh

Unity?

After smearing Hillary from pillar to post(along with there buddies in the MSM and RWers giddy at the prospect of an Obama candidacy), they're going to expect unity from us in November.

good luck.

[earthlover]

55. "there buddies"

UGH

[earthlover]

22. Why don't you tell us some good things about Hillary?

For that matter, why doesn't Hillary? Today all we seemed to get was her dissing Obama's mailers and shame and Rovian yadayada....

It is getting late. The campaign is almost over. What are the reasons to vote FOR Hillary?

Sorry, but I haven't heard much of that at all on these boards. There is just as much Obama hatred as Hillary hatred if not more.

You had all the advantages. You started as the front runner. Had the big chunk of media attention. You were up by 30-40% in the polls. Had all the money. You had plenty of time to tell us why to vote FOR Hillary.

It's not too late. WHY?

[babylonsister]

37. Crickets. nt

[Bluerthanblue]

24. well, Hillary's rage has really improved your ability to deal with

frustration in a positive way then eh?

I find it pretty disengenuious for her to come out all 'outraged' by mailings that she feels paint her in a negative light- ones that she is offended by, but which are very VERY similar in tone and type as those she herself has been sending out throughout the campaign.

Her 'leadership' - that is, the way she conducts herself in this primary- sets the 'tone' for her supporters in many sub-consious ways. Your outrage over the mailings is way over the top- (IMO).

Your post, only serves to reinforce my opinion that the last thing we need in the White House is a person who has a very short temper, one who strikes out at those they feel have harmed them by attempting to "SHAME" them-


As one who has survived the out of control rage of a parent and a spouse, I have no interest in supporting a president with similar issues.


peace~

[NMMNG]

26. Hear, hear

It looks like Obama will be in the GE. Therefore I'm doing a write-in or leaving the presidential portion blank. I will not vote for Obama. Period.

[earthlover]

42. Do you think Hillary would approve of your actions?

[NMMNG]

43. Is that some version of "mommy would be so disappointed"?

:rofl:

[earthlover]

45. No, it was a serious question.

I don't share the mommy stuff about hillary that the GoMama folks rant about. Yuck!

You seem to be turning off to voting for Obama. And I think it is because of attacks on Hillary. But Hillary will vote for Obama. You can bet on that. So there does seem to be an irony there.

[NMMNG]

47. I've been turned off to voting for Obama for a long time

I came to Hillary only as a last resort because she was the last person left standing against Obama. Of course the virulent attacks against HRC do nothing to raise my opinions of Obama or his supporters. They serve only to solidify my opinion that Obama is not someone I want as a president.


Hillary can vote for Obama if she chooses and as is her prerogative. I won't, as is mine.

[melody]

27. Responses from more hardline Clinton people will show me how much we all value the word "Democrat"

At this point, Obama is our future. I worked with the Al Gore folk in the beginning, then moved onto Edwards when it was clear Gore wouldn't run, and now I'm with Obama. There's no choice at this point -- it's going to be Obama. At this point, either we help Democrats, or we help the GOP. There is no third way in this situation. If wishes were horses, etc, etc. We only have one option
and ANY Democrat is better than ANY Republican, who will run on a defined plank made of homophobia, sexism, racism and war-mongering.

[RaleighNCDUer]

28. You sure used a lot of words to say nothing.

Where's the substance?

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31. Just call me Obama.

On second thought, don't please.

[SoxFan]

29. The theme of the day is...

[Political Heretic]

30. Hey don't look now, but your just as bad as anyone you accuse.

Hate... Rovian tactics.... division....

Yup, that pretty much comes across in your post.

As to the empty rhetoric charge, well....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4723573&mesg_id=4723629

Of course, I've made similar posts like this giving explicit detail, in my own words combined with platform specifics from the campaign. And no one responds. It's because its a bullshit charge.

Come to think of it.... I haven't heard any more SPECIFICS from Hillary either. She wants to "get things done in Washington?" Great... WHAT THINGS? And as soon as you start rattling them off I'm going to point out that its the EXACT same things we have been saying in response to your bullshit accusations from day one.

[Skip Intro]

35. Bull. Look at this forum. Look at the slime thown at Hillary by so-called proponents of hope & unity

Look at the CHANGE the "O's" words have inspired. Look at UNITY in action here. Words do not match the action. Words, those words, are empty. Look around.

[Political Heretic]

36. Bull. Look at this forum. Look at the slime thrown at Obama by so-called proponents of choosing

...the candidate with the "most" ability to unite the party and defeat a republican. :rofl:

It goes both ways. There are cruds on both sides. You would do better to not be part of the problem by focusing on the issues rather than flinging shit of your own in your OP.

[jannyk]

32. K&R

[Buzz Clik]

38. Yawwwwwwwwn! Ho hum. What's the delegate count again? Oh, yeah.

[Skip Intro]

58. yeah, mr. arrogance, there's a 69 del. difference between them, 700+ still needed by either to win.

HOPE that's not too boring for you

[DemGa]

39. Indeed, The hypOcrisy comes from the tOp dOwn

What a sham, an Obama-Sham.

[John Q. Citizen]

41. Not a problem. SC isn't going to vote for Hill or Obama in the GE, although Hill got

stomped there in the primary, even with your vote. We Obama supporters on DU made sure of that, we are all-powerful obviously.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for ineffective selfish self-obscessed whimps.

I look forward to your impending departure from DU. You can start another site where you can cry about how mean we are.

Have a good day.
************************
Oh, and to the other Hill supporters on this board who aren't selfish self pitying whimps, I welcome you to join us in the fight to defeat the Republicans come Nov. Even the tiny minority of you who were rude. That I can handle. The selfish self pitying stuff I'm not so good with.

Also, I have zero problem with anyone who can't support any/either candidate for any reason. As adults, people have to make up their own minds. But please take responsibility for your decision. Blaming anonymous posters on a discussion board for what is your own personal decision is pathetic, highly unattractive, and about as lame as it gets.

[cooolandrew]

44. Gee thanks, lots of love. May god bless you.

[Johnny__Motown]

46. we HOPE the democrats will CHANGE what hillary wants and convene in UNITY at the convention

[Thepricebreaker]

48. Sucks for you he is winning isnt it? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Get Over Yourself ... You Bet On The Right Political Horse

I was one of the few who bet on the Giants... I got lucky... Unless you were part of the nucleus of his campaign or I was part of the nucleus of the Giants my contribution or your contribution was zero...

[SammyWinstonJack]

49. I'll vote for the down ticket Democrats but if Obama is the nominee, I won't vote for him.

Don't like him and don't trust him and I dislike and distrust his supporters even more.

[casus belli]

54. Rovian tactics? Please support this accusation with references. n/t

[zulchzulu]

56. People can't force you to pay attention and we can't instill intelligence virtually

If you don't get Obama's message and would rather put the 90's 8-Track Tape of Triangulation, that's your choice.

We don't need your vote. Don't act like we do. We have plenty to cover your ass.

[Skip Intro]

57. "We don't need your vote." - Words of Hope and Unity if I've ever heard them.

you prove my point, z.

thanks.